But the problem is not the battery, its the throttling which is not fixed. Battery only became an issue because that's how apple concealed the throttling. Was the perfect solution for apple, old battery, throttle, and nobody any wiser. Electronics should age just like a particular rotten fruit.
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Exactly, so nobody suspects the battery. It wasn't even on the table as a possible option for causing slowdowns, despite it actually being a very likely contender after all.
It's too bad that nobody knew, apparently not even the Apple Genius technicians.
Yeah, there was this new behavior where the health percentage would consistently fluctuate +/- 5% or whatever, which led to some misunderstandings, but that behavior can still be observed through those apps even though all other battery info was removed, so if the idea was to make fewer people run to the geniuses I doubt they succeeded.
On mine it was never a question of +/- 5%, though. It’s been about battery health bouncing madly between anywhere from 92% to 30% from one minute to the next. Sometimes I’ll see the battery indicator ticking down at a rate of 1% every 15 seconds until it reaches 1%, and then it keeps running for up to 6 hours on what it claimed was 1%. The last few minutes before shutting down, it recalibrates and discovers what the true capacity is (currently 88%), only to lose its marbles again after the next full recharge. On the history tab in Battery Life I therefore have some days with 49% battery health, only to be followed by 86% on day 2, 72% on day 3, etc...
When I tried to explain this to a premium reseller I had barely even begun before they defended themselves by saying that this is normal behavior now. Then I said “yeah yeah I know what you mean but this goes way beyond that”, only to get the same defense over and over.
Honestly more interested in the software changes.
The fix to replace the battery has always been there.
What are they going to do to prevent this from happening in the future or at least get their customers to be comfortable with this happening in the future?
Are proprietary apple replaceable batteries going to make an appearance in future iPhone designs?! Is Apple going to go full android?! lol
The fix to replace the battery has always been there.
What are they going to do to prevent this from happening in the future or at least get their customers to be comfortable with this happening in the future?
Are proprietary apple replaceable batteries going to make an appearance in future iPhone designs?! Is Apple going to go full android?! lol
There are plenty of people who say they did, on this thread and others.
It's nice to know you care nothing for them. Sounds like you own some stock.
No, I just don’t like the self-martyrdom nonsense going on. “Something bad could have happened to me but didn’t! You bastards!”
if you're so sure that this is utter BS by Cook where's your proof and why are you keeping it yourself. Be everyone's Snowden and expose that money grubbing F-wit CEO for the criminal that he is.
oh wait you can't because your proof is just tin foil hat paranoia. You want him to be a criminal so you've decided that he's lying.
1. You can update your IOS version over wifi at an apple store or possibly over wifi at other places --ie the public library.
Although personally I am glad now i stayed at 10.2 for one of my phones.
2. I kept my macbook 2008 for 8 years (I still use it for some things!). But then used an iPad air with keyboard increasingly for travel until I finally upgraded the mac. If your usage is primarily word processing etc you can get away with an iPad air or iPad air 2 with some workarounds.If the iPad is 9.7 inches or smaller, ms office will be free. If you want to update your mac unofficially, the macrumors forums have some hacks, look around.
3. I primarily use brick banks still as I don't trust the internet.
4. I agree with you the internet should be regulated. And also apple devices are too high priced mostly for my budget. I try to get the cheaper devices (a new SE for example is a steal at less than $200); apple has lowered the price of one model of iPad but seems to have some tradeoffs. Depending on your use case, I might look for a 2016 MacBook which I saw somewhere for $800 plus recently but be careful here as there is only one port so that can be annoying if you use a lot of external drives which sometimes I do. I think also AppleCare plus is a must on the new macs as if one key breaks, a whole bunch of attached items have to be replaced, which is ridiculous. So I don't know if I will use my MacBook pro after 3 years because of this, I was lucky to get a big discount and don't know what I will do in the future.
Yeah I was trying to make this point in another thread as well. I feel it's only a matter of time before we find out this is widespread across their other devices as well smh
Edit: Another point beside maintaining that speed for a year, what if the new devices are only running faster because they have newer batteries in them?
Geniuses are floor sales staff,, they wouldn't have known even if u asked them,,, only the engineering team i bet and kept to only those select people. But some may have if they had reports.
they already exist and have since the iPhone 4. which is part of why this claim that Apple wasn't changing batteries so folks would have to buy a new iPhone is BS.
I'm sure the lawsuits will continue. The lawyers want to get paid.
The price drop for one year should give enough time for those affected to have a battery replacement.
Well, it's a lesson for Apple.
1. They probably need to scrutinize their battery sourcing
2. They already did it on the Mac, by giving user a warning of battery needing service. I'm sure Apple wanted iOS to be more appliance-like, but not informing users of certain changes in their devices' behavior bite them back. At least allow the type of diagnosis that the Genius people can do to user (in a user friendly way, of course). This will tell user their batteries' wear level.
The price drop for one year should give enough time for those affected to have a battery replacement.
Well, it's a lesson for Apple.
1. They probably need to scrutinize their battery sourcing
2. They already did it on the Mac, by giving user a warning of battery needing service. I'm sure Apple wanted iOS to be more appliance-like, but not informing users of certain changes in their devices' behavior bite them back. At least allow the type of diagnosis that the Genius people can do to user (in a user friendly way, of course). This will tell user their batteries' wear level.
I just can’t @ people trying to defend Apple on this... Slower phones drive people to early upgrades and Apple to greater profits. “But Apple only slowed down your phone for your own benefit”... my @$$
Sorry, I meant an iPhone design where the customer can just swap out the battery themselves, Just pop off the cover.
I think there actually was a phone case that used to mount cell phone batteries on the back so you can charge up your iPhone whenever you needed.
Phones that just randomly shut off would drive even MORE people to upgrade. Yet Apple chose to slow the device down instead of letting it randomly shut off.
The way I read Apple's statement...
"We are still going to slow down your device and force you to upgrade. But instead of hiding the intent from you, we are going to be more transparent to effectively soften the blow when it comes time for you to upgrade."
"We are still going to slow down your device and force you to upgrade. But instead of hiding the intent from you, we are going to be more transparent to effectively soften the blow when it comes time for you to upgrade."
And will he be saying it in Russian?
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Instead of slowing it down they can just let it randomly shut off. Then everyone will be happy.
But Apple did discuss it with a Tech Crunch and other sites like iMore reported on it.
https://www.imore.com/apple-and-ios...one-6-iphone-6s?amp&__twitter_impression=true
Heck there was even an article on MR about it.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/02/23/apple-unexpected-iphone-6-shutdowns-solved/
I’m not arguing that. My beef is the purposeful slowing down of older phones because of degrading batteries.
Replace all affected batteries = no iPhones slowing down. Why should the consumer suffer by paying more to use their phone as it was intended. Nowhere does it say performance will slow down when you are buying the phone.