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No, Apple is only a ‘great company’ for as long as it increases the value of your AAPL shares...
I don’t own companies I don’t think make incredible products, have great management, have a huge moat, and have a road map for the future.

I only try to own companies that are great because the shareholder value follows that.
 
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The only misinformation is Apple failing to disclose that it now throttles based on battery health.

That we had to find out the details via third-party testing is pathetic.

People are perfectly within reason to feel wronged by what Apple had chosen to do without disclosure.
It’s pathetic we need to be proactive to gather information easily accessible through third party sources...?

Especially when the fix is to lower the battery pull to keep the phone from shutting off... people who don’t like that truly don’t understand what’s important.
 
Since iOS 10 Apple has stopped apps like Lirum Device info accessing battery information, life cycles etc. Why did they do this. Have uploaded some screen shots of the app I used.
 

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Not good enough, and any judge worth their degree will agree. Apple will lose billions of dollars for this, and worse, suffer much loss of customer loyalty.

Should have issued the recall when they realized the phones were defectively made. Classic example of handling everything wrong here. This will be a case example for years to come, and Tim will shortly be stepping down or removed as CEO.

Watch. Everyone laughs at what I post, but I called this all long ago, way before the announcement and benchmarks proving the slowdown. This too shall come to pass.
 
It’s nice something good is coming out of people’s irrational whining.

Just is disappointing we’re teaching people that crying about and demanding things through misinformation is ok.
Ya, irrational whining made Apple do this.

For years iPhone users have had the knowledge and ability to check their battery health to decide on their own whether to get a new phone or battery. Apple has no blame here.
Except Apple has been systematically taking away the ability for the end user to determine battery health information on their own for some time now.
 
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Better if Apple had been forthcoming about the reasons in the first place to save them the negative PR they are now trying to address with these announcements.

No,, the best way was they shouldn't have done the high power draw in the first place. That's why they introduced the power management to reduce battery so users wouldn't have noticed, and by not saying that, it worked 'somewhat' to their advantage.
 
Apple releases the following:

We noticed SOME TIME AGO our batteries can't effectively power our phones for 2 years. In order to have thin bendy, sorry, TRENDY phones we made some (in retrospect) dodgy decisions. One of those decisions was to allow (well force) the phones to use less power in the hope no one would notice. To make sure you did not notice, we did not TELL anyone. (NDA's out the wazoo). We now have decided to educate you all about a new technology called chemical batteries. Yes, these have been around since 1800 AD. Sidetrack - we have you wondering how these things work and made you forget all about how ours might not. If yours needs replacing, we will to that for $29. Once we figure out how to make a "Replace your battery" app sometime next year.
 
It’s pathetic we need to be proactive to gather information easily accessible through third party sources...?

Especially when the fix is to lower the battery pull to keep the phone from shutting off... people who don’t like that truly don’t understand what’s important.

Such hyperbolic rhetoric from so many here.

Tell me all about how the phone would shut down randomly while plugged in, seeing as it still throttles. :rolleyes:

Yes, it absolutely is pathetic that Apple decided to throttle people's devices following an update.

It's pathetic they didn't tell anyone and we had to find out by third-party noticing trends.

It's pathetic that Apple throttles devices that are above 80% battery and their own diagnostics report "Healthy" and Apple will not replace it.

If they want to throttle, it should be made clear as day to the user that it's happening.

While we're at it, why doesn't the phone disable some of the useless power-sucking features, if they're so concerned about it? Roll it all up in the existing "Low Power Mode". Voila.
 
"we're sorry, here's a free code for a year off iTunes purchases" or reducing the amount of Apple battery replacements..

I like the way companies think..

1. They do damage.
2. They try and smooth it over after by (a. admitting to their mistakes, and b) giving discounts to users.

How exactly will that fix the issue? Companies really need to be truthful, and none of this "Well, its too late now, but starting year we will be more better

Better also do a software update as well while their at at to prevent this.

Damage is already done. but they mean well at least... Gotta give em some credit
 
Irrational whining?

A year-old iPhone 7 runs as well as a five year old 5S.

Is that what you believed you were getting? Should your newly-released phone run as well as one with a 6 year old battery? Is that how they present the devices at their yearly keynote addresses?

I scratch my head at some of you. I just don't get it. There is absolutely nothing to defend here. They are going to lose each and every class-action, and pay billions upon billions in retro payments to anyone who has purchased an iPhone since they began doing this. It will be one of the largest settlements of all-time.
 
It'll be interesting if the cost (aka write down) for this ever becomes known. It's certainly provided a boost to those people (like me) who may keep their phones that much longer. Still, I am happy they did it.
 
So if I take my mom’s iPhone 6+ into Apple, spend $29 and get the battery replaced, it should be working like brand new?? And iOS 11 should be snappier?

I don’t believe this one bit. Apple is so good at marketing. Create a problem so people can need a solution.
 
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But that is ********. My iPhone 6 plus is nearly brand new. Its battery is on 79 of 500 cycles. Still the performance is REALLY piss poor with the iOS 11 update. So Apple should stop the lies about "phones with old batteries". This is obviously them wanting me to buy a new iPhone.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc is a fallacy.
 
For years iPhone users have had the knowledge and ability to check their battery health to decide on their own whether to get a new phone or battery. Apple has no blame here.
Sure, if you know enough to download Ibackupbot, you can find out how many cycles are on your battery and you could download another app to figure out your battery level, and then you'd know whether or not your battery had failed within apple's acceptable parameters... and then you'd find out that apple's parameters were wrong anyway, and your phone would switch off randomly with 45% battery, and then when you installed the update to fix the crash, your phone would slow down, but apple wouldn't tell you that until SOME PEOPLE FROM REDDIT pointed it out. I love Apple. I own loads of products (7 mac pro's in my house)
To say there's no blame here is a real stretch in my opinion.
By all means, stretch away.
 
This is good news for those of us that didn't doubt Apple's good intentions in the first place.

For others, this is just more "proof" that Apple is corrupt and more ammo for the "everything sucks" rhetoric.
Read the posts of the sociopathic curmudgeons who post on the Wall Street Journal's forums if you want a good laugh.
 
What about the wasted time spent on the phone with Apple support trying to resolve a slow phone issue. All the restores and every other useless step Apple Support gave to solve the slow phone problem?

What about the cost of buying a new phone that was unnecessarily spent because people were fooled to believing their old technology was end of life?

How will Apple address these?
 
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