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A bigger battery does not necessarily deliver a higher current, if it's the same tech it probably delivers the same maximum current, it does however hold more energy, that's different.

With Li-ion batteries, they generally do.

That's why this isn't an issue for the iPad despite having a very similar hardware setup. MacBooks is similar, though their hardware is a bit more different.
 
No, they don't. The MacBook Pros work really good... Those machines they refuse to die. They just keep going and going, that's why I pay those big prices.
 
They're not top tier Panasonic, Sanyo, LG Chem, etc. so I wouldn't pay more than $5 for them.

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Where's the proof these batteries are of lesser quality than the ones you quoted, I don't dispute the fact Panasonic are one of the best brands though.


Then put in a less demanding cpu in the new phones. Or a larger battery. And don’t hide the underdesign.

People want faster telephones.

With Li-ion batteries, they generally do.

That's why this isn't an issue for the iPad despite having a very similar hardware setup. MacBooks is similar, though their hardware is a bit more different.

Easy, more cells in parallel deliver more current.
 
They're not top tier Panasonic, Sanyo, LG Chem, etc. so I wouldn't pay more than $5 for them.

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And the whole device just magically changes the battery on its own? Part cost is only a small portion of the total costs. Disassemble device, exchange battery, assemble device. Check and warranty afterwards (at least in most countries) have also to be included and come at a cost.
 
Hmmm they *force* you to upgrade your software? No —-that too you do by choice.



I can say with a certainty - the majority of us are LUCKY there is still an Apple to go in this corrupt world we live in.

Hahahahahahaha, this makes my day! LUCKY to have a company like apple in this "corrupt world"?
You mean the same apple that dodges the american tax for 34 million dollar by taking the 'Amsterdam route"?
The same apple that uses kiddies from 10-12 years old to make their Ipone's??
The same apple that write's software wich makes your iphone "invalid", by slowing down your Iphone (without telling you!) so you buy a new one??
The same Apple that dont give ONE s**** about other country's law about warrenty of 2 years and giving you one instead?
The same apple that now offers their apology, because they are scaired of all the new lawsuits? and sell you a new battery for $29.00 (that cost less then $10.-)?
You mean THAT apple?

Man, you should be a comedian! You made me laugh! :)
 
Only solves part of the problem. For years Apple have sold phones to people who thought their old phone was dying and that they needed to get a new one, when really all they needed was a battery. I think they should address that issue.
And who told them that their phone was dying? Not Apple, not people with actual knowledge. No, it was the ones who were speculating that Apple was systematically slowing down older phones for the purpose of selling new ones. If you believe people that claim something without any solid evidence, you do that at your own peril.

And let's be clear, this whole process started only in January 23, 2017 (with iOS 10.2.1).
 
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They're not top tier Panasonic, Sanyo, LG Chem, etc. so I wouldn't pay more than $5 for them.

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So your solution to slow phones is... slower phones? o_O

All that keynote cpu waggling nonsense from Apple?

It's died.

No-one believes them if the real world is much slower
 
Check the cycles and other details with Coconut. If you think it doesn't hold up, you should go to the nearest Apple Store and have them do the diagnostics. With the price of just $29, I think it isn't so bad as it was before.

On the front page just like the Maps letter. Well hopefully this remedies the situation.

Actually it potentially causes another issue, 2 maybe.

1. iPhone 7 is under Apple care plus, replacement of battery takes away from one of my returns and/or will cost more if I get a hardware replacement. Not ideal!

2. iPhone 7 is IP67 rated. Removal of the screen to get to replace battery removed the seals. Unless Apple can reseal for the same rating in store then my phone looses a crucial value & feature.
 
The battery would have needed replacing regardless. They owe you nothing.

Oke wiseguy, so YOU know that state of MY battery?? That would have lasted for atleast 2 more years, if APPLE wouldnt have decide to give me software (without telling ANYONE and even DENYING it first) that slowed down my iphone so much that it went from "perfect" to "impossible to work with"!!
 
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Hahahahahahaha, this makes my day! LUCKY to have a company like apple in this "corrupt world"?
You mean the same apple that dodges the american tax for 34 million dollar by taking the 'Amsterdam route"?
The same apple that uses kiddies from 10-12 years old to make their Ipone's??
The same apple that write's software wich makes your iphone "invalid", by slowing down your Iphone (without telling you!) so you buy a new one??
The same Apple that dont give ONE s**** about other country's law about warrenty of 2 years and giving you one instead?
The same apple that now offers their apology, because they are scaired of all the new lawsuits? and sell you a new battery for $29.00 (that cost less then $10.-)?
You mean THAT apple?

Man, you should be a comedian! You made me laugh! :)

Yea that very one! I live for a great laugh! Glad I could be of help!
 
Oke wiseguy, so YOU know that state of MY battery?? That would have lasted for atleast 2 more years, if APPLE wouldnt have decide to give me software (without telling ANYONE and even DENYING it first) that slowed down my iphone so much that it went from "perfect" to "impossible to work with"!!

Get the hair out of your eyes and look at the truth. Youre not helping anyone by beeing a apple fanboy

Accuses me of not knowing the state of a battery...goes on to predict the future in the next sentence.

Ok.
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That’s Apple’s solution.

No it isn't, you're not making any sense. Batteries degrade, there's nothing you can do about that aside replace the battery.
 
The big question will apple offer this discount when the X slow down in two years?

Their doing this in 1 yr after product is released. iPhone 7 launched last year and is being throttled already by some. I’m not yet affected as my 7 is less than 9mths old. Others are furious!

Very, very clever.

Still doesnt tackle the issue though does it?

They can't turn this throttling "feature" off and they have just admitted it.

Where the hell is FLYNN?!

Apple’s motives are not unlike the MCP (Master Control Program) talked about in 1982 Disney’s Tron! Effectively removing the USER from the devices control even to some extent.

Someone else highlighted when in extreme cases throttle will occur. Funny enough these are the EXACT same reasons in reverse speak Apple states as reasons to upgrade to a new iPhone !!
 
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Why did this start with the iPhone 6? Were older iPhone batteries that much better?
 
In cases that require more extreme forms of this power management, the user may notice effects such as:

  • Longer app launch times
  • Lower frame rates while scrolling
  • Backlight dimming (which can be overridden in Control Center)
  • Lower speaker volume by up to -3dB
  • Gradual frame rate reductions in some apps
  • During the most extreme cases, the camera flash will be disabled as visible in the camera UI
  • Apps refreshing in background may require reloading upon launch
So there's more than CPU throttling? What about the other Apple products? Should I expect my watch brightnes to go down? Lower wifi range from my airport?

Is there any guarantee this is all they are doing in secret?

If a device battery has chemically aged far enough, power management changes may be more lasting. This is because all rechargeable batteries are consumables and have a limited lifespan, eventually needing to be serviced or recycled.

Confirmed planned lifespan of one year.
And they still want us to pay for our own dinner and hotel room while being f****d.
Also to note: there is no plan or commitment to design the next iPhone to last more than one year on its battery, it will be exactly the same underprovisioning.

  • Apple is reducing the price of an out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacement by $50 — from $79 to $29 — for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced, starting in late January and available worldwide through December 2018. Details will be provided soon on apple.com.

Funny enough these are the EXACT same reasons in reverse speak Apple states as reasons to upgrade to a new iPhone !!
 
Amazing news and uncalled for. I imagine all the trolls will have to find something else to whine about. Apple has stepped up and addressed something that was not a big deal.
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Android "Oh crap. Hope they don't find out how we make incompatible OS, Apps and everything else crappy"

Straight up, delusional.
 
So your solution to slow phones is... slower phones? o_O
The problem of the iPhone 6 and 6s (maybe also of other models) is a CPU that is 'too efficient' in scaling power consumption up and down. A battery with capacity X might provide an average battery life of, let's say, 1.2 days, while only barely managing to provide the current peak that the CPU needs at full throttle when close-ish to being discharged.

When after maybe 300 battery cycles, the battery capacity has dropped to 85%, it will still manage to provide a battery life of >1 day but the maximum current it can produce might also have dropped by 85% putting it below the threshold needed for a full-throttle CPU when close to being completely discharged and/or being very cold.

Putting in a larger battery obviously pushes the moment when the maximum current it can provides drops below the critical value to a larger number of cycles but at the 'cost' of delivering a longer daily battery life. I don't know enough about batteries to tell whether it is possible to tune their design such that they deliver a larger current while keeping other parameters constant, ie, whether it is possible to increase the maximum current without increasing battery capacity (and size and weight) by the same amount.

To some degree this is just a new situation we are not used to yet (or to be honest, we didn't really any information that it existed). We know that when battery life drops, we can fix this by putting in a new battery. And we have tools that can chart the battery capacity over time. What we didn't have were tools that charted the maximum current over the battery life. While we had tools that could measure the speed ceiling of the CPU (Geekbench), it took quite a while for somebody to put one and one together.
 
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A bigger battery does not necessarily deliver a higher current, if it's the same tech it probably delivers the same maximum current, it does however hold more energy, that's different.
I don't believe you are right in the vast majority of cases if at all. A bigger battery of the same type and voltage almost certainly delivers more current than a smaller item.
 
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This is the most shameless, half way, dishonest apology they could have came up with. If they really want to do the right thing, put it as an option in the settings. Heck, turn it on by default if you like, but at least give the people the option.

Also, the root of this problem is the bean counter that is putting low quality batteries inside premium priced iPhones.
 
What? Slowing down my phone is no one’s business but Apple engineers? That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. They updated my phone to it down and you are saying it none of my business? Take your car into the shop and when they cap top speed at 55MPH so you can maintain proper gas mileage, let me know how that works out.
And yet people would complain and file lawsuits when their phones restart or shutdown randomly, seems Apple can’t win because everybody has forgotten how batteries work and expect the moon on a stick ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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