I don't believe you are right in the vast majority of cases if at all. A bigger battery of the same type and voltage almost certainly delivers more current than a smaller item.
I said "not necessarily", I did not say it can't.
I don't believe you are right in the vast majority of cases if at all. A bigger battery of the same type and voltage almost certainly delivers more current than a smaller item.
No Reason to have to Pay for a New Battery! Purposely written code to drive upgrade sales of new Phones and now we are held hostage to pay for a new battery no matter the reduced fee. Continue the Lawsuits...Apple has lost their way and Tim Cook's comp announced today is an insult to injury! "I need to fly private jets"
That’s what he does.You are moving goal posts here. My point was that they are making $50 less profit on a battery change and you are talking about longterm devaluation and something about $10 eBay batteries...I don't know, but I am not following.
79-29 = 50 .
What is your point ? Are you trying to explain to me .....that my point is that Apple has taken a long term devaluation hit? Nope not my point ....but thanks for trying to lead me down that rabbit hole , feel free to debate with yourself , as that is not my point .
You’re completely right. I don’t HAVE to upgrade. However I bought the 6S Plus because it was the fastest and latest iPhone at the time it was released. I expect it to remain as fast as I bought it. I understand that newer phones have been released that far out perform my older 6S Plus, but this is the exact argument. I was more than happy with its performance. It worked perfectly fine for how I used it... until Apple decided to intentionally clipped its wings... without asking me first!
Why did this start with the iPhone 6? Were older iPhone batteries that much better?
Sure, but the iPhone 6 (and 6s) real-life battery life (at least during it first year) wasn't worse than than that of the iPhone 5 or 5s. So, while the volume (or thickness, not sure if that matters) of the battery might have gone down, battery capacity was 'large enough' (to achieve set goals for battery life). What wasn't large enough was the maximum current the battery could produce after, let's say, 300 charge cycles, and being discharged to 30% or less (and being in the cold).That’s when iPhones became impossibly thin.
Tim Cook sold $43M worth of company stock on August. I wonder why he did that?
iPhone thickness and battery capacity aren't related.
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No I didn't. Go and read back.
This is the solution Apple PR came up to bridge the gap between the caught moment and the launch of a near future iOS “feature” that will inform you that the belated needs replacement otherwise the iPhone performance will be affected.This is good news for those of us that didn't doubt Apple's good intentions in the first place.
For others, this is just more "proof" that Apple is corrupt and more ammo for the "everything sucks" rhetoric.
Too late, and the reason most of us are angry. I replaced the 6S Plus with an 8 Plus at considerable cost as I believed it to becoming old, dated and slow.Check your serial here you may be due a FREE battery replacement and this bulitin has been around for months
https://www.apple.com/support/iphone6s-unexpectedshutdown/
Nice graph. Did you consider battery tech improved over that time ? Allowing smaller batteries to have the same capacity ?
That's exactly the point - they've crammed in lots of other stuff but stayed with a package that's about the same size. Something has to give somewhere.Yes of course, if you made the phone thicker you could fit in a bigger battery, but that is disregarding everything else that goes into engineering a smartphone, and that is not what we're talking about anyway.
As it is, the thickness of iPhones is not related to the battery capacity of said iPhones.
Which was part of the problem. If Apple had used a criterium such as if-we-need-to-slow-down-this-phone-by-more-than-20%-to-prevent-sudden-shutdowns-the-battery-is-worth-replacing, this situation would have been much less critical. And not only in regard to warranty replacements but also in regard to whether an Apple genius would recommend a battery replacement for an out-of-warranty phone.Well 81% at less than 500 cycles would show up as healthy on Apple's diagnostics.
They said that in a statement. Also I ve been using iphones since 2011, brand new or second hand, with bad, degraded batteries, and never noticed low scores on any geekbench apps.Can I just ask why you're so sure of that?
That's exactly the point - they've crammed in lots of other stuff but stayed with a package that's about the same size. Something has to give somewhere.
You imply that the thinner devices came with a shorter battery life. Which you know isn't true. Yes, making the phones thinner meant that battery life was not improving as components got smaller and battery technology improved. But "not improving" is not the same as "getting worse".Let me ask you this. Would a thicker phone enable the use of a bigger battery? Of course they are related. Wow, just wow. Try getting a 10mm thick battery in a 9mm thick phone and tell me again how there is no relation.
It’s not too late you just didn’t see to notice !Too late, and the reason most of us are angry. I replaced the 6S Plus with an 8 Plus at considerable cost as I believed it to becoming old, dated and slow.
Jepp, sucks for me as well. Hope they fix the underlying issue. I’m all Apple but this sucks so hard.£29 for only 1 year? and then back to £79?![]()
Except that battery life didn't "give". What "gave" was maximum current supply (at low charge levels and low temperatures) after maybe half the nominal battery life (measured, eg, in battery charge cycles). And it is possible that it wasn't mostly the maximum current supply that "gave" but the bigger problem was the higher maximum current draw of the A8 and later.That's exactly the point - they've crammed in lots of other stuff but stayed with a package that's about the same size. Something has to give somewhere.
Jepp, sucks for me as well. Hope they fix the underlying issue. I’m all Apple but this sucks so hard.
The underlying issue is a limitation of Li-ion technology. Good luck fixing that without a huge leap in battery tech.
£29 for only 1 year? and then back to £79?![]()
You honestly believe that slowing down the CPU by 20 to 50% (about what the Geekbench numbers show) could explain such a slow performance? You might have been affected by the CPU slowdown, but your phone had significant other problems on top of that. They could have been software related, there have been reports about significant improvements in speed after an OS re-install.I bought an iPhone 8 to replace my 6. Shame on apple. The phone was unusable.... 10 seconds to open camera app and to open whatsapp or send a photo..... and now they tell this? WTF apple.... you lost points with this not transparent planned obsolescence