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What??? We're talking about the current iOS updates, not next year. They've been doing it since iOS 10. By the way, they would not have addressed this issue had they not been caught doing it.

So they increase the battery life by making your phone run like crap. Now you think your phone is running slow so now you want to buy a new phone rather than tell you that you have the option to replace the battery so it'll run like it did before. Pretty good plan by Apple to get you to buy a shiny new fast phone.


An old battery with a full charge in a couple of hours will reach the critical point where the iOS will slow it down to avoid the shut down, but by doing that the phone will become useless. I don't think that's a solution at all because that will give the impression that the problem is the phone an not the battery...
 
Let’s see what this new update is. It will be interesting if all of a sudden most of our speeds and battery life are improved. I know this is battery wear but my 6s battery health is 87% (year and a half old) and is being throttled to 911mhz unless 100% charge which then shows 1200mhz

And it should be 1848 if I recall correctly.
 
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This issue is "part of the package" for anyone that buys any brand of cell phone. The battery ages and can potentially have performance issues as a result. Just like cell phone attenuation, it's nothing at all unique to Apple. It's simply the state of physics for current battery technology.
Perhaps. Do you know for a fact that the batteries that Apple uses aren't defective or don't meet the specifications that Apple established for those devices?

BTW, it isn't "part of the package" for cell phones that have user replaceable batteries.
 
You should have to pay for it because

a) It's out of warranty
b) The battery would have needed replacing anyway
c) Nothing in the tech world performs as it did the day it was bought

My iPod docking station still works the same as it did 6 years ago when I bought it. The music doesn’t ‘slow down’.

Look, the issue isn’t the fact that the battery degrades. Everyone knows that it does. The issue is that the battery degradation affects the performance of the device. This should never happen. And if it does happen, you should know that this is an intention when you are purchasing the device.

By the way, over here in the UK we have something called the ‘sales of goods act’ which in short means products that the consumer buys should work AS INTENDED for 6 years. Yes, 6 years. So ABSOLUTELY the battery replacement should be free if it is affecting the performance of the device.
 
Yep and it is sad to see so many people here defending it.

Why should we have to pay for it?

Fair enough if it says performance will decrease over time when you are buying it, but it doesn’t, nor did people actually think this was a thing until a few weeks ago.

Its a fact batteries are degrading overtime, why should Apple tell you that, no manufacturer of battery operated tell you the battery degrades.
 
LOL...Apple is spelling it out and you still don't understand the issue. The software "slowdown" only occurs in situations where the load is high enough relative to the amount of charge left in the battery and could potentially shut down the phone. They're not saying the phone becomes slow all the time regardless of load or battery charge.

It is throttled all the time, checked several phones already. Even at home where it's warm. You never see the top performance again.
 
Perhaps. Do you know for a fact that the batteries that Apple uses aren't defective or don't meet the specifications that Apple established for those devices?

BTW, it isn't "part of the package" for cell phones that have user replaceable batteries.


Well iPhone battery is "user replaceable".

The word you are looking for is removable and no flagship cellphone in 2017 has user replaceable battery.
 
Thats not the issue here anyone with a brain can see that what apple did was so you can understand is take your shiny car that has 200hp and reprogram the software to push out 110hp because they dont want you to find out there is a fault they will cost them millions to put right like the telsa battery problem

wake up apple fan boy

No, what Apple did was use software to compensate for a battery technology that hasn’t advanced in 30 years so that users phones don’t suddenly drop dead under strenuous conditions.

Go buy a new battery and your problem is solved. This isn’t Apple’s fault. It’s yours.
 
Its a fact batteries are degrading overtime, why should Apple tell you that, no manufacturer of battery operated tell you the battery degrades.

Sigh. That is not what I am debating. It’s the fact that the battery degradation affects the performance of the device.
 
LOL...Apple is spelling it out and you still don't understand the issue. The software "slowdown" only occurs in situations where the load is high enough relative to the amount of charge left in the battery and could potentially shut down the phone. They're not saying the phone becomes slow all the time regardless of load or battery charge.

I apologise I thought the performance was throttled all the time. I didn’t realise it was just in certain situations.
 
My iPod docking station still works the same as it did 6 years ago when I bought it. The music doesn’t ‘slow down’.

Look, the issue isn’t the fact that the battery degrades. Everyone knows that it does. The issue is that the battery degradation affects the performance of the device. This should never happen. And if it does happen, you should know that this is an intention when you are purchasing the device.

By the way, over here in the UK we have something called the ‘sales of goods act’ which in short means products that the consumer buys should work AS INTENDED for 6 years. Yes, 6 years. So ABSOLUTELY the battery replacement should be free if it is affecting the performance of the device.

The phone works “as intended” when you plug it in the wall.

So do that.

Or buy a replacement battery. You know, because batteries die.
 
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Apple's current policy is that a battery needs to be below 80% usable capacity for it to be replaced under AppleCare and I believe they won't do a paid replacement until the battery is below that, as well. The throttling mode also does not engage until the battery capacity is below 80%.

That is 80% capacity of current charge , not 80% of the battery capacity? Cause that is a huge difference .
 
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why don't you think I haven't tried everything before buying a new one? even after a clean install from iTunes it was unusable
So, you do believe that Apple was slowing down your iPhone by up 80% to protect your battery? Despite no Geekbench results showing such a large slowdown? Or could it be some piece of hardware that was underperforming? The only way to confirm that the battery was the trigger for the slowdowns is to replace the battery (which will cost you only $29 very shortly). Though, as there have been reports that the battery-related slowdowns are definitely not present when the phone is plugged in, just testing its performance while plugged in could also rule out or confirm that your issue is battery-related.
 
For some, it genuinely isn't an issue. They see value in their purchases and understand that there is no "gadget paradise" where things "just work". If it weren't the battery issue with the iPhone, it would be some other battery issue with an Android phone. For these people, they can see the self-serving nature of Apple's repair program and still be "ok" with it.

For others, they have to convince themselves more than try to convince others because they feel "locked in" to the Apple ecosystem. Complaining about a situation when thinking one can't escape it simply makes a person feel more helpless.

The people I don't understand are those who complain vociferously about what Apple does but continues to buy Apple products.

I like Apple products, but what I don't like is to pay for a product and don't receive what I pay for. Never had problems with Apple products before until recently, with iOS 10 and 11, and macOS High Sierra. I just hope that Apple fix their software, that's the only thing that I ask, the battery I can change that my self and save $25. Just fix the software. I hope that iOS 12 be very stable, I don't want a refund, nothing, I just want what I paid for.
 
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For others, they have to convince themselves more than try to convince others because they feel "locked in" to the Apple ecosystem.

The only thing that people are "locked in" to with rechargeable batteries is the physical laws of the world we live in. Nobody has yet invented battery technology that doesn't degrade over time.

Apple is trying to give you a hint about that with the $29 battery replacement, but I guess it's over your head.
 
I apologise I thought the performance was throttled all the time. I didn’t realise it was just in certain situations.
It is throttled all the time... checked several phones already even at home where it's warm.
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That is 80% capacity of current charge , not 80% of the battery capacity. Cause that is a huge difference .
My friend's throttles at 83% battery capacity (83% battery health as reported by coconut battery)
 
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LOL...Apple is spelling it out and you still don't understand the issue. The software "slowdown" only occurs in situations where the load is high enough relative to the amount of charge left in the battery and could potentially shut down the phone. They're not saying the phone becomes slow all the time regardless of load or battery charge.

Thank you. Please post this every five minutes so that perhaps it sticks.

No one is being throttled until their phone is in desperate threat of a shutdown. Then iOS comes to the rescue and power manages another hour for you.

Funny, when Apple created Low Power Mode last year it was praised for stretching battery life. Now the same thing is a scandal.
 
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