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So, you are happy to pay for a battery you'd just prefer it to periodically crash and I would prefer the periodic slight slowdowns, fair enough. As for having the choice of crashes vs slight slowdowns I think that could work for both of us as long as it was implemented right. Perhaps a periodic popup saying "your battery is at X wear level and is no longer capable of running at peak performance and should be replaced. We may throttle your iPhone to maintain battery life" then a OK or disable option.

I suspect Apple just chose the option that most people would prefer and it is not the conspiracy you seem to think it is however.

Only caution. At the worst case, these are not slight, it's going back performance wise two generations of iPhone . Is that okay with you ?
 
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apple does not offer a feature to check your cycle count.

There are 3rd party apps available that do that both on iOS and MacOS. Been around for years and easily found through a quick internet search or App Store search.
 
I am simply saying that if the battery (degradation or not) is directly affecting the performance of the device, then the product is not working as it was intended to and therefore there should be no charge for replacing the battery. YES batteries degrade but when the battery is affecting performance that’s what I have a problem with.
If like with the existing Low Power Mode, you were given a choice between longer battery life and slower performance, you would frequently select the slower performance option. Meaning, the slower performance is not the problem, the problem is not being told about and not having a say about it (and the battery reaching a state when its degradation affects usage way too early in its lifecycle).
Most other electrical items if the battery has degraded then simply the device will not turn on for as long, the performance will still be at the same level.
There are many simple battery-powered devices that do have less performance as the battery charge level gets lower (and the output voltage drops). Frequently the voltage directly affects performance, as in the brightness of flashlights or speed of electrical motors (in many toys for example).
 
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Apple customer service is number 1, nobody can beat that!

Apple's Dept. of BS is even better. The best! Sure, those that stuck with their older phones get a "discounted" battery. Apple will probably only make 50% markup on these $29 batteries now. That's taking one for the customer! But too late for those of us who were driven nuts with power issues last year when Apple said "nothing to see here," and we had no realistic option except to buy a new phone... not a new battery, a new phone, because who wants to spend $80 on a battery if Apple says that won't fix the issue. I went to Apple twice with my iP6 and they told me my battery met specification even though my phone constantly shut down prematurely. Would have been nice if Apple just warned us before we installed iOS 10 that it would screw with the battery.

Ask me and this is just Apple CYA. But it's just more of the same Apple "act now, apologize later." It's one of the characteristics I detest about Apple. They never will admit there is a problem until it reaches a critical mass. But by then it's too late for many as they have already dumped the defective hardware. Sure a class action ensues, and these former owners get a $20 check in the mail.

Yep, I'm not giving Apple kudos for this offer. It's like applauding a driver for not leaving the scene of an accident.
 
Ahh.. good. I have phones from iPhone 4 to 7 Plus, all on iOS 10 or lower, so we're not having this. Thanks for the info.
10.2.1 it was introduced to iPhone 6s.

If you have not updated , only your 7 is safe from throttling , 11.2 added 7
 
No, I want a new battery if it affects the performance of the device. Not if it has degraded.

The "performance" issue only occurs in situations where the phone could potentially auto shutdown due to the relative processor load and remaining charge. So you've got two choices: the phone continues to run at full speed and then shuts down automatically to prevent damage OR the phone continues to run at a reduced speed and doesn't shut down automatically because damage will not occur. That's it. There are no other choices.
 
If like with the existing Low Power Mode, you were given a choice between longer battery life and slower performance, you would frequently select the slower performance option. Meaning, the slower performance is not the problem, the problem is not being told about and not having a say about (and the battery reaching a state when its degradation affects usage way too early in its lifecycle).

There are many simple battery-powered devices that do have less performance as the battery charge level gets lower (and the output voltage drops). Frequently the voltage directly affects performance, as in the brightness of flashlights or speed of electrical motors (in many toys for example).

People are different. I never use low power mode as it drops the performance. Appreciate the info regarding battery powered devices.
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The "performance" issue only occurs in situations where the phone could potentially auto shutdown due to the relative processor load and remaining charge. So you've got two choices: the phone continues to run at full speed and then shuts down automatically to prevent damage OR the phone continues to run at a reduced speed and doesn't shut down automatically because damage will not occur. That's it. There are no other choices.

Apple could add another choice, reduce the demands of iOS on older devices.
 
Apple should have just let all of the phones with battery issues die. Better for them and the shareholders in the long run. Hindsight is 20/20 though.
 
If you have not updated , only your 7 is safe from throttling , 11.2 added 7

Throttling only occurs when the relative processor load/charge level could potentially trigger an auto shutdown to prevent damage to the phone. Apple specifically states that the software feature was added to allow users to continue to use the phone safely in those unique load/charge situations rather than just have it shut down completely.
 
10.2.1 it was introduced to iPhone 6s.

If you have not updated , only your 7 is safe from throttling , 11.2 added 7
All my phones are 10.1 or lower. Checking my battery health on my 7+, I'm sitting at 96%, launch phone. I'm good. I'll check my other phones as well. I have to charge the 4 though lol, it hasn't been used in a while lol.
 
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Apple should have just let all of the phones with battery issues die. Better for them and the shareholders in the long run. Hindsight is 20/20 though.

You do get that some countries have good consumer protection laws? And Apple avoided replacement? They choose the cheapest method to deal with the situation.
 
No one on Apple's side seems to understand that if they weren't in CYA mode they would of told their consumer base about this fact that certain iPhones do, and already of had the $29 battery replacement.
 
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