Mine too. It was at 85% and took 6-10 seconds to open native apps. People just speak without experiencing this issue.
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Mine too. It was at 85% and took 6-10 seconds to open native apps. People just speak without experiencing this issue.
do your other battery powered devices slow down as the battery ages? Or do you just have to charge it more often?
You’re not looking at the bigger picture. Nobody is debating the fact that batteries degrade, nobody. The argument is against the performance related to battery.
Average user 1: my battery has had 521 cycles!
Average user 2: my iPhone definitely seems slower.
Yeah, trust me they do notice!
They don't want you to know the condition of your battery, or even if it's working to spec, the goal is to push you to upgrade and diagnose your battery as fine.
The reason Apple issued this notice was because this news was starting to reach the mainstream user base, Apple’s core sales target. My mom was asking me about this just a day ago and she knows next to nothing about all this stuff.
That doesn't really make any sense. All Apple has done is provide a software solution for keeping functionality running in a situation that would normally result in an auto shutdown. That's it.
Apple never committed a Geekbench score to its consumers. They committed a quality smartphone experience and even mentioned their power management system and philosophies on battery life on several occasions.
If consumers didn't like the way Apple power managed or the fact that the batteries were not replaceable, they were free to purchase another smartphone.
That doesn't make sense....why does the battery fail to deliver the power needed to have the phone run as normal? Why doesn't the battery deliver the power needed just at a shorter time period as it degrades? It sounds like Apple used inferior battery technology.
I have a question for all of you what ditched your 6/6P/6S/6SP.
Did you think to set the phone up as new? Erasing all content and settings and restoring the phone to factory settings would’ve made your phone MUCH better.
I know so many people who don’t properly take care of their phone and load it up with a bunch of stuff they don’t use or care about.
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Did you set up your phone as new to see if you were still having issues?
I'm not sure that's right. The sale of goods act means merchantable quality for up to 6 years after purchase. A battery is a wearable that even if it gave out after two years/500 cycles and normal use I don't think would be covered by this.
If you are expecting blood, you will be sorely disappointed.
I am not sure how anyone can even conflate these two issues. By Apple’s own admission, they only started slowing down their phones from iOS 10.2.1 onwards, and only from the iPhone 6, and only to avoid unwanted shutdowns.
But people have been claiming that Apple slows down their devices for many years running, which is an entirely separate matter. An iPhone 4 barely runs iOS 7 because it doesn’t have the specs for it, plain and simple. There’s no conspiracy by Apple to cripple your phone to make you run out and get another iPhone.
I don’t expect any fallout from this matter.
Trust .... it's personal between me and it.... does not need to make sense to you....
No, Apple should have told people ahead of time what the problem was and explained what they were doing to fix it. Some people would have still believed in a conspiracy but there isn’t a way to convince people like that, so give them an option to turn off the battery priority feature and let them crash. As long as you explain the options and consequences up front what happens becomes the owners responsibility.
Google LION battery degradation and if you go to a science leaning site you will find that what Apple is saying about battery degradation is at least mostly true. Their problem is the absolute fascination with secrecy that the company has, in all phases of their business. When you have a problem like this you don’t do things without notifying owners because if it gets out that you are limiting performance on older phones OF COURSE people are going to think you are trying to pull a fast one on them. Especially when there have been rumors of your company doing this for years. Quit being stupid about telling people, Apple.
Wow the apologists are strong in this thread. Apple had a transparency problem, how are people praising them for this? I'm definitely one who bought a newer iPhone 7+ because my 6+ was gimped by iOS 10. If I could have just changed out my battery, I definitely would not have upgraded.
And this so-called "throttling" only kicks in when the battery is in desperate shape of a shut down. Let's talk some realworld scenarios:
It means that my daughter could be using her iPhone 6 with, say, a 75% battery score on a 70 degree day, doing the typical text/Snapchat stuff, and at 9PM with her battery at, say, 25%, the firmware could kick in and throttle for the last hour she's awake before bed. The alternative would have been a shut down right then and there.
Similarly, it means that my daughter could be using her iPhone 6 with, say, a 75% battery score on a 25 degree afternoon while skiing and her battery at, say 50%, but because of the temperature the firmware could kick in an throttle until the temperature rises or she's back indoors after skiing. The alternative would have been a shut down 2 hours earlier while on the slopes.
In both of these typical scnearios, Apple's approach is the right one. Better to have the phone operate a second slower when opening an app or a millisecond slower when web browsing than to have the thing quit on a ski slope or at the end of a day.
I agree with your point. They should have been more transparent about the issue, but I totally understand why they weren't. People are irrational, you see it right here in this thread. Looking back though, they shouldn't have done anything to the software and they should have just let phones with bad batteries die. It would have avoided this whole issue.
What........ wait..... let me drink something .... and let me run to check it's not April.
I'm going to throw it out.... you have a SLIGHT bias.... I've picked up on it, I think the others have also
Good day to you.
Nope. Android OEM use third party processor and they put CPU frequency in their spec sheet. Users can easily tell if CPU was throttled
That’s the thing. The fact that Apple decided to design the iphone with a non-replaceable battery should not be a surprise to anyone. And as such, non-warranty battery replacement is not something that Apple would offer up and not something that a customer should expect. I wasn’t a fan of the class-action lawsuit and i’m not a fan of this “program”.
She would only be lying if she said that she didn't. The post I linked insinuated that Apple lied about this. Apple handled this poorly, not seeing the lies.
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Is there evidence that batteries above 80% were being throttled?
Apple has previously said that 500 charges equals 80% battery capacity. That by itself gives users a rough idea of how the battery degrades over time. If a user wants more information than that, they can easily find 3rd party apps that give it to them on either iOS or MacOS. There's nothing being hidden from anyone that is interested in it.
Besides, as people keep explaining over and over, the actual throttling is only occurring in very specific situations where the phone would normally auto shutdown to prevent damage. If anything, what the user is experiencing is protection of their phone, not a strategy to push them to upgrade.
Agree completely.
Apple didn't need to but acquiesced to the press, gave users a discount, and are releasing a new iOS version with power management as an opt-in.
That should end this non-story.
Of course it makes sense. Apple doing something behind your back without telling you.
But hey, as long as you don’t know about it then it’s all good isn’t it?