Absolutely, YES! There are going to be a lot of angry people come the end of January. They'll want a $29 battery replacement and Apple will be telling many of them that their iPhone's battery hasn't degraded enough.
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Absolutely, YES! There are going to be a lot of angry people come the end of January. They'll want a $29 battery replacement and Apple will be telling many of them that their iPhone's battery hasn't degraded enough.
Mark
Thank for that info. I was not aware of 80% being industry standard for EOL on batteries. My question on the 20% battery was not based on the health of the battery but based on 20% battery juice left before sticking it on the charger not 20% battery health.
So my next question is why have I never seen this problem on Android phones? Or even why do not see this problem on laptops? Because they don't throttle based on the health of battery but they do conserve or go to a lower power state when you get below said percentage of battery juice left.
Where's the Apple message to let me know Apple is throttling my phone due to battery degradation?
There’s no difference, all iPhones have been produced on lower nanometer sizes with each version.
Almost as good as having United drag you off their aircraft, then offer you a $250 voucher. :bitchslap:
Your reading comprehension has failed you. Read what was written, not what you think was written.
Shuffling the deck chairs is not gonna help.
Your original post mentioned nothing about last years Android:
And again, not a fan of what Apple did.
That is blatantly false. Newer manufacturing process are significantly smaller and more efficient. Older processors suck a ton of juice. Not the newer ones.
Ok, I guess I’ll explain it to you.
Nobody was complaining about their phones crashing, yet Apple decided to invent this magical throttling feature that nobody wants. But, many people were complaining about the headphone jack being removed, yet Apple did nothing.
The point I was making is Apple doesn’t value their customers feedback like usual.
I wasn’t saying “bring back the headphone jack”.
You turned it into that for some reason.
Understand now?
I believe you have a serious problem understanding what I wrote.
1. I said latest android do not have lag problem as they used in the past
2. I compared an old S3 to a TROTTHLED iphone 6 BEFORE I replaced the battery. I never said that the S3 is faster than a properly working iphone 6 ! I used the word Before which you forgot to highlight.. Probably a comprehension problem.
Those above are two different statements. Get it now? Probably not..it's a waste of time especially talking to people who prefer personal insults.
No there won't be - as Apple will give everyone a new battery who wants one as they are for sure still making a profit from them at 29 a pop and will get an even better PR impact - these guys aren't stupid!! I hope the courts realise that this should cost them a big chunk of their 250 billion (or what ever it is) honey pot.
Not a friendly government and the EU is no Apple fan. Money talks and billions reward a conviction. Yes, I think the Europeans are corrupt.
That's the part that should terrify Apple.
Updating a design doesn't = bad design in previous models.
Antenna-gate was originally started by YouTube videos of people gripping an iPhone 4 that had full bars displayed on-screen and then watching the bars all disappear. That wasn't the result of a bad antenna design. It was the result of Apple choosing a way of displaying signal strength that was way too generous in the upper half. Those "full bar" YouTube videos were really being made in weaker signal areas. Once Apple changed the formula to be stricter for how the bars were shown, nobody could make "full bars" drop to zero anymore. It could only be done with weak signals (that were now being accurately displayed). I think that was a case of Apple falling victim to the marketing trend of the time that put so much emphasis on the number of bars showing up on the phone. They made a bad initial choice in terms of how they displayed signal strength.
Yesterday it said 93.x%, so I say, not reliable, but lets see how it goes in the next few weeks.
Oh wow, 86% today and yesterday 93%? Dang.
My wife's iPhone 6s+ with the failing battery that was restarting all the time did this. We'd plug it in and coconutBattery would say 60% design capacity left one day, 97% another day, even if we plugged it in/out/in it was always saying something else etc... My 6s+ that didn't restart was always consistent.
I do know that when you take a reading, you wanna be consistent with charge. If I check my design capacity at 50% charge, it'll be crazy different than at 100%. So I always charge my phone to true 100% before checking capacity.
Very well written. I think you are very close . We will go through a few more rounds of Apple in denial and making gestures of free batteries etc , though this may very well end up with a replacement program . No free bumper will see this go Away . Karma is a ***** sometimes....was funny when Samsung messed up, though the note 7 is a few pennies compared to what this could be ...
They made a bad choice in how they display signal strength?
How about display it as it is?
Like I said, "full bars" at that point in time was a big marketing gimmick for the mobile phone industry. I'm sure Apple wasn't the only company that used a wider signal strength range for the top half of the bars than the lower half. That still doesn't make it a good choice though, and Apple admitted that with the change. They didn't try to bluff anyone on it when the obvious problem with that choice came up. That's going to be true of the battery/throttling issue as well. If Apple publicly says "this is what we've done and why" in response to some sort of controversy then it's not a bluff.
Lets get real here and not kid ourselves. Apple did not become almost a trillion dollar company by telling you that all you needed to make your phone great again was to just change out the battery. No, they want you to buy a new device and this is one way to make you do it. It's a built in planned obsolesce. They saw an opportunity, took it, and got caught doing it.
This is becoming a bad talking point in my house. We are deciding that we'll have to wait, if at all, to get any more dang Apple products. Ugh. I was "this close" to getting the X!!!! grrr... I hope our current phones last a while longer. 
In an earlier post I also said that I will charge my 6S with the provided 5 Watt charger instead of the 12 Watt charger, Li-ion can't stand heat that well.
Will try to follow your advice.
Cheers.
Thanks for the info too! Batteries are a hobby of mine and I'll admit I know very little. This whole battery thing interests me because we had Apple refuse to replace my wife's 6s+ (her phone restarted all the time and barely lasted half a day) but my 6s+ was perfect. We both own 8+ now - but probably would still be on our 6s+ if her phone wasn't problematic. lol.
I miss the days when coconutBattery was an app on the iOS app store. Hopefully 2018 brings it back!
More battery health info is always good!A design flaw to which there is no perfect solution until Tony stark releases the arc reactor to the public.
Let me give you some insight ....
https://www.macworld.co.uk/news/mac...-addressed-by-apple-repair-programme-3497935/
In 2015, Apple launched a repair program for machines back in 2011. Apple will do everything to ignore and delay taking responsibility that costs them money.
If you do your research you will see that this is the norm.
Apple never identifies a problem ..... lots of customer complaints and raised awareness in media before they even acknowledge it
The iPhone due to its exposure, tends to have its issues resolved quicker , only if they go viral and mass media , due to it being 70% revenue stream . There is a possibility that the 6S was flawed awaiting a mass recall after, as they found the recalled units could not be fixed longer term , so this software patch was designed to hide the issue.....
I know you see Apple as having done nothing wrong here, but this could really become huge.... or fizzle . Interesting 2018
I miss the days when coconutBattery was an app on the iOS app store. Hopefully 2018 brings it back!
If they are smart they should make that happen within a couple of days, they would make a fortune right now.
Sounds like they were being disingenuous. So what if others might have been. They didn’t have to.
If they were inclined to be dishonest about reporting then, what makes you think they wouldn’t do it now?
Where is the how and why for reporting signal strength in a way that exaggerated the phones capabilities?