When your tyres wear out ..... do you replace them or drive slower ? You will find most of us here want to replace the worn tyres, we will even pay for them ...... is that wrong ?
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Apple to Offer $29 iPhone Battery Replacements, More Battery Health Info in iOS
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When your tyres wear out ..... do you replace them or drive slower ? You will find most of us here want to replace the worn tyres, we will even pay for them ...... is that wrong ?
Or... iPhones are acting up due to a comepletely different, non battery related issue.
Making a mention of the hate is berating? Alrighty. As one of the victims I think I have compassion! I think Apple is in the wrong here, that said, I still am amazed at all the anti-apple behavior. Just making an observation. You're free to have your opinion. I'll try to be more compassionate.
Wow a member since 2006 - much respect and hats off to ya.
Perhaps I misunderstood your post, if so I apologize. I just see so many labeled as haters for simply speaking out and put on the defensive when Apple has already admitted to wrong doing. At any rate I wish you a Happy New Year.
If you're referring to more than one the proper word is "are." One person/thing the proper word is "is."
Ah yeah I'm sure I came really close to that so I think you're right. Definitely a very active topic eh? 77 pages and going! ---- thank you, Happy New year to you too!!
Coconut battery, all over the place.
It was even down to 80.3% earlier today.
It was even down to 80.3% earlier today.
@BigMcGuire told me it is reliable but you have to measure it at the same battery percentage every day for a while, mine, as you can see in the post above you, are everywhere.
Curious, why are you quoting me with a link similar to what I've posted about the same issue, just 3mins before you did?
My wife's 6s+ was going nuts with the ratings when she had her restarting 6s+ with the bad battery. No, Apple won't take it as evidence that you can get a replacement. They rejected us because her battery was green.
With an iPhone with a good battery, the design capacity should be very consistent. My wife's 6s+ with the bad battery was all over the place (60%, 80%, 90%, etc...) and restarted whenever load was put on it.
Do realize that you must take the % reading at the same charge percentage (usually full charge) to get an accurate design capacity reading.
With an iPhone with a good battery, the design capacity should be very consistent. My wife's 6s+ with the bad battery was all over the place (60%, 80%, 90%, etc...) and restarted whenever load was put on it.
Do realize that you must take the % reading at the same charge percentage (usually full charge) to get an accurate design capacity reading.
You read the document at all? The 'purposely written code' was there to solve a natural occurring issue with aging batteries. Any other devices you own come with lifetime free batteries? You car? Anything?
They didn't screw up, it was an intentional fix for devices with aging batteries. And you are paying for a used up consumable battery that needs replacing.
Any other electronic devices, car, lawnmower, weedeater, etc that you have get free batteries when they are used up and past their usable life? No? So why would you expect your phone manufacturer to provide free batteries for lifetime? Batteries are consumable items. Not sure how some of the smart folks here aren't understanding that.
No, in that case you get a battery replaced for free under the warranty.
No mistake, intentional software fix for a device shutdown issue with aging batteries.
In fact it does, read the documents for more facts. A new battery will not have the issue of not being able to supply the current/power asked for from the device so they turn off that feature in power management until such time the battery is aged to the point it can no longer provide that power.
May want to wait until end of January to get the $29 deal (unless you are under warranty)
Earlier, in post 1801 it was at 80.3%, then 86 something %, so mine isn't that accurate.
I'm very very curious as to how Apple will do their battery health info. My guess is it'll just be a "green" light "red" light type of thing. Would love to see the actual data tho, like the one that coconutBattery reads from the phone. I do wonder if batteries have that much variance in real life, or whether it's a coconutBattery thing?
But agreed, you all are showing that there is something up with the "accuracy" of this!
I will do it again tomorrow after a 100% charge, see what's going on.
Just checked, it's at 93% charge and 81.1% health.
Now back to 96.2% charge and 91.4% health after I closed all Apps and locking the iPhone.
Well I guess Tony Stark released the arc reactor to other vendors except for Apple since other vendors don't lock-step cpu performance w/ battery life. If it sounds like a design flaw, it probably is a design flaw.
Except I never used my experience to make a claim about the entire user base of iOS 11. You used a support forum as evidence, and even tried to justify it again in this post.
I suggest taking Statistics 101 to understand how utterly and completely wrong you are to claim MR forums represents most users.
My post was NOT to be an apology distraction. Man some members here really think when another posts don't always align with their views that somehow their "the enemy". For the record I posted that link to show Samsung seems to have a battery issue with charging, I know it's different. Also for the record I'm an iPhone user (1yr currently, previously 4yrs, off and on since the 3G), and I HATE Android OS!
I've been using cellphones since ... a long time - before the original Motorola StarTac and I can tell you, even with the advent of Li-On/Polymer batteries every phone I've used I've fully drained them several times and NEVER had an issue plugging them in dead and after 15mins the charging indicator or the screen lighting up to show it's charging. A phones internal components should detect no charge in the battery to complete the circuit and then attempt to charge it to a minimal level before routing power throughout the device (completing the circuit); in a cell phone. Laptops are different and for the most part can bypass the battery being part of the circuit. I just see this as odd for the Note 8.
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Is that a fact? We need receipts.
You may want to do more reading into this issue. It's not just an Aging battery problem , if it was why are the 5S and prior models not suffering from these shutdowns ? Seems there might be a design flaw .... let's see .
No other manufacturer of electronic goods that I am aware of will refuse to replace your battery if your offer them money . Apple does
, you don't find this abnormal ? Given they also control the test ?
It's not about free batteries , it's about being allowed to give Apple $$$ and have the battery in the device we own changed . This big brother mentality is disgusting to be honest . They will not replace my battery by bend over backwards to sell me a new phone ....
Remove the throttle and the hate goes away. This thread blew up because the battery solution did not fix the underlying issue of throttling. Problem won’t go away until the actual problem is fixed. Deflecting the blame elsewhere is just going to piss people off.
I would say the majority of posters here are big Apple fans. But nerfing hardware was a red line that cannot be crossed. Until Apple steps back behind the line, the “throttlegate” will continue and grow. Just a simple button to enable and disable throttling and all is good.
Why would Apple refuse to offer to let users control throttling? My theory is that removing throttling will expose the other issue involved which is bad batteries under warranty. Apple might offer user control after waiting a period of time for the batteries to degrade and go out of warranty. Liability is significantly reduced then. If I had a corporate meeting, that’s what I would suggest.
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Don't twist my words . I was comparing it to your representative sample , which you said... Was your household .
Let's not waste each other's time anymore today . Fine I'm wrong, whatever it takes..... to end this meaningless exchange .
When manufacturer buy's batteries they chose between:
1) very cheap with low power density, low cycle count and low burst performance
2) high power density but low total cycle count and low burst performance
3) lower power density and high burst performance, high cycle count
Engineers like option number 3 because you take pride designing something premium with premium reliability and beancounters like option number 2 because it's a little cheaper to get the same total power and it fits into a smaller package which is easier to market, but it does come at the potential cost of long term customer dissatisfaction. Clearly the beancounters won.