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Apple to Preview iPhone OS 3.0 on March 17th

Tallest Skil said:
Why am I the only one who thinks that Apple should add voice dialing to the iPhone?

I mean... I can't be the only one. Every other phone has this. The phone that I use that actually has phone service has a monochrome screen... and voice dialing.
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Here's my experience with the best voice-dialing phone I ever had:

I say "Call Katie Bodin", my phone says, "You said you want to call Amy Pearson. Is that correct?"

I say "no". It asks me to repeat the name.

I say, "Katie Bodin".

The phone says, "Calling Jamie Solden (Hated Ex-Girlfriend)." I say, nooooooo! and by the time I hang up, it's already rung twice.

Voice dialing would be great if it worked....
 
Whatever version 3.0 has to offer. It needs to be good.

The mobile phone market is incredibly volatile, handsets become popular in the same way children's collection crazes do. The question is, do Apple have the niche features in 3.0 to keep making the iPhone popular. Or is another phone, maybe the Pre, going to come along and slap Apple silly.

All those people saying MMS, Video, Copy and Paste etc are dead or not needed are living in a fantasy land. Many other phones have offered these features for years, not to mention features such as voice dialling or the A2DP bluetooth profile which in my opinion should have been on the iphone from its inception. Considering the price, and the pitch-point of the iPhone, I am surprised it has done so well lacking so many features. But I guess that's my point, the iPhone users I know are getting tired and are looking at other handsets already, or have already moved. I noticed other posters in this thread mentioning moving to Blackberry also.

This really makes me believe Apple need to pull something out of the bag on this next update. Just my opinion though.
 
soundsgoodtome said:
- Longer-lasting battery
- Faster processors
- Increased memory
- A dedicated chip for flash support in Safari
- Adding a flash for the camera
- Adding a camera to the front of the device for video-chat
- Improved form-factor (thinner?)
- Better-sounding speaker(s)

Good thing you're not Apple's CEO or Head of Product Development. :)
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Good thing you're not a Computer Engineer, or we'd have to invent a 'dedicated chip for flash support in Safari' when the entire flash VM is software-based.
 
ccuk said:
Whatever version 3.0 has to offer. It needs to be good.

The mobile phone market is incredibly volatile, handsets become popular in the same way children's collection crazes do. The question is, do Apple have the niche features in 3.0 to keep making the iPhone popular. Or is another phone, maybe the Pre, going to come along and slap Apple silly.

All those people saying MMS, Video, Copy and Paste etc are dead or not needed are living in a fantasy land. Many other phones have offered these features for years, not to mention features such as voice dialling or the A2DP bluetooth profile which in my opinion should have been on the iphone from its inception. Considering the price, and the pitch-point of the iPhone, I am surprised it has done so well lacking so many features. But I guess that's my point, the iPhone users I know are getting tired and are looking at other handsets already, or have already moved. I noticed other posters in this thread mentioning moving to Blackberry also.

This really makes me believe Apple need to pull something out of the bag on this next update. Just my opinion though.
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Apple couldn't make the iPhone unpopular if they tried. It's called branding.

I'm not saying it's not a good phone - it's the best phone I've ever owned. It's just highly unlikely it'll stop being popular. That said, even Coke managed slip up with New Coke.
 
JavierDiaz4 said:
I've had my Iphone for 18 months now.... They better change something quick, I'm sure I'm not the only one getting tired of the same thing every day.
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If you've had your iPhone for 18 months, you've experienced at least 5 or 6 software upgrades, each of which brought new features -- especially 2.0, 2.1, and 2.2. You've also seen the birth and explosion of the app store, which currently houses well over 25,000 apps (someone earlier said 27,000), each of which does something new and different on your phone.

So, surely, for 18 months, your iPhone experience hasn't been "the same thing every day."

Exaggerate much? :)
 
I know this sounds like a stupid question, but will Jobs be giving this keynote? I know he has taken leave, but will he come back to "emcee" like he has in the past? I mean, this is definitely less strenuous than Macworld, WWDC, or even the usual September Music Event. Just a thought.
 
Here's what I want:

1. Faster OS with better memory footprint -- I can always use the speed and memory.
2. Notifications for all applications. This would make so many applications so much more useful.
3. A generic wireless printer utility that applications can access. I want to be able to print anything that I can see on my screen to my printer.
4. NO copy/paste -- I don't think the phone's UI can take it. Maybe smarter links to compensate, though.
5. Better bluetooth capabilities and support for application use -- let the geeks hook up keyboards for an application if they want. Also, might want to make a bluetooth remote for the PS3, etc.

Here's what I want from the next iPhone:
1. More RAM-type memory for better applications.
2. Better camera -- not more megapixels, just higher quality pics.
3. Faster processor for better, faster applications.
4. Slimmer and smaller and/or better battery life.
5. More storage memory for more music, applications, videos, etc.
 
w00master said:
I disagree. Because of the App Store, I would be seriously surprised if iPhone 3.0 did *not* work on the original iPhone/iPod Touch.

Don't forget that Apple makes 30% of all sales on the App Store. Making iPhone 3.0 not accessible for original iPhone/iPod Touch users, Apple would be losing out on a big chunk of sales.

I'm sure there may be certain features that won't work for original iPhone/iPod Touch users (like GPS), but I'm nearly certain that iPhone OS 3.0 will be available for original users.

w00master
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You are way over-interpreting. I never said the App store would REQUIRE iPhone 3.0 or that the iPhone 2G would stop working on the App Store. I don't think that would happen. There will probably be apps that require 3.0 just like there are OS X apps that require 10.5.x. However, there are also plenty of OS X apps that don't, just as there will be lots of apps that will work on all iPhones.

Also, Apple's profit in the app store is completely incidental. Would you rather have 30% of $2.99 that only comes on impulse or a guaranteed 3% cut of $90 monthly for two years + $200 profit from a handset sale? Just personal experience here, but I've spent maybe $10 at the app store since last July. Most of the apps I've d/l'd were free. 30% of free isn't great profit.
 
Saladinos said:
Apple couldn't make the iPhone unpopular if they tried. It's called branding.

I'm not saying it's not a good phone - it's the best phone I've ever owned. It's just highly unlikely it'll stop being popular. That said, even Coke managed slip up with New Coke.
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Anything is possible.


Best phone I have ever owned is the Sony Ericsson K750i. It has more features than the iPhone and battery battery life too.
 
olternaut said:
I concur wholeheartedly.

While the average apple fanboy will defend Apple to his last keystroke, and try to flame a competitor's tech no matter HOW good it is, I betcha Apple took notice of the WebOS.
In fact, if Apple was smart (and I believe that they are) they should have downright freaked when they saw what Palm's WebOS could do. Apple now has to beat Palm to the punch and debut their own next gen multi-tasking mobile OS that is simply superior to all of the competition.

Steve Jobs and Apple will settle for nothing less!
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Apple basically made WebOS.
- The entire design was lifted from the iPhone. From the application dock for commonly used apps, to the tab switching screen, right down to the delete icon on the dialer.
- The only native part of the software is the browser, and guess which engine they're using - that's right, Apple's own WebKit!

Palm actually contributed very little to WebOS. They didn't create the engine (the kernel, if you like), and they didn't even design it themselves. They made some hardware that could run Apple's browser, then made a web version of the iPhone. Oh, and while I'm mentioning the hardware - it looks like the Pre has a plastic screen. Didn't Apple try that, find that it scratched too easily, and decide on glass instead?

And what on Earth are you talking about Apple needing a next-gen OS? The iPhone OS is superior to any other mobile OS today IMO. It's quick and easy and creative and intuitive in use. It redefined smartphones and nobody's quite caught up. I can't think of a single mobile OS I'd rather have on my device.
 
Lershac said:
its gonna have blu-ray built in, six firewire ports, and a qwerty keypad
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You joke about Blu-ray, but I think there might be a Mini DisplayPort output through a dock... allowing you to play back HD content.
 
KindredMAC said:
Imagine if every app you had on your iPhone decided to PUSH info to you throughout the day... That means you could possibly be receiving those little text pop up windows that we get now when a text message comes in and you are in another app, except interrupting every single thing you do on the iPhone. I for one would get really annoyed with that after about 3 hours. Badges also would get crazy. Can you imagine every app you have popping a badge on the upper right hand corner of every app on your Home Screens? I can't stand having the App Store or Mail showing a badge.
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There's currently an app on your iPhone called "Settings." You can already use it to customize many, many aspects of your iPhone's OS and/or apps, to suit your preferences and needs.

When Push notifications become available, you'll no doubt find options, within the Preferences app, such as these:

Settings > [App name] > Push Notifications > [Off]
Settings > [App name] > Badge Notifications > [Off]

:)
 
19 pages and everybody misses the most important feature: the update will mainly be about stuff that makes you give more money to apple! think new mobile me services, new stuff to buy or rent from itms/app store. it's things like that apple is most interested in. not "snappier safari" or "copy paste".

they probably get some operators to push iphone harder if there is mms, so that one seems feasible as well.

and one thing that they really should add to stay competitive is multitasking.
 
ccuk said:
Whatever version 3.0 has to offer. It needs to be good.

The mobile phone market is incredibly volatile, handsets become popular in the same way children's collection crazes do. The question is, do Apple have the niche features in 3.0 to keep making the iPhone popular. Or is another phone, maybe the Pre, going to come along and slap Apple silly.

All those people saying MMS, Video, Copy and Paste etc are dead or not needed are living in a fantasy land. Many other phones have offered these features for years, not to mention features such as voice dialling or the A2DP bluetooth profile which in my opinion should have been on the iphone from its inception. Considering the price, and the pitch-point of the iPhone, I am surprised it has done so well lacking so many features. But I guess that's
my point, the iPhone users I know are getting tired and are looking at other handsets already, or have already moved. I noticed other posters in this thread
mentioning moving to Blackberry also.

This really makes me believe Apple need to pull something out of the bag on
this next update. Just my opinion though.
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Yes we should judge the average iPhone owner by people who post on this forum.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
You are way over-interpreting. I never said the App store would REQUIRE iPhone 3.0 or that the iPhone 2G would stop working on the App Store. I don't think that would happen. There will probably be apps that require 3.0 just like there are OS X apps that require 10.5.x. However, there are also plenty of OS X apps that don't, just as there will be lots of apps that will work on all iPhones.

Also, Apple's profit in the app store is completely incidental. Would you rather have 30% of $2.99 that only comes on impulse or a guaranteed 3% cut of $90 monthly for two years + $200 profit from a handset sale? Just personal experience here, but I've spent maybe $10 at the app store since last July. Most of the apps I've d/l'd were free. 30% of free isn't great profit.
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Actually Apple no longer gets a cut of the monthly service, that was axed when at&t agreed to pay a 400 dollar subsidy (which is why it's 200 with new service, and not with an "early upgrade") in place of the monthly service percentage
 
TheSpaz said:
PUSH-freakin-NOTIFICATIONS!
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Did they give an exact date for this feature to be implemented? I recall that they hyped the feature as coming soon but I don't recall if they gave a deadline for it being in the users' hands. Not trying to make excuses for them, but to be fair you need to show us where they promised it at a particular date or with a specific software release/update. I still recall that being a "we're working on it/coming soon" sort of thing but I could be wrong.

Crike .40 said:
3 Ghz G5
G5 powerbook
Video cards and monitors that took 3+ months to release (less crucial)

*now I realize that these aren't "really" apple's fault, but still
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I wouldn't fault Apple for problems with their suppliers. We're talking about situations where Apple promised something and they were directly responsible, as part of some apparent history of over-promising/under-delivering, for the failure to meet said promise. Failure by a third-party doesn't really reflect on Apple's character as a company.

Sky Blue said:
How did they never materialize? It was stacks, the new finder and some other stuff. They were lame secret features but they still delivered them.
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Meh... maybe. If a company hypes features as super secret, it has to be something bigger than stacks. I'd half-way count that against them. Stacks is cool but not a hype-able feature.

SirROM said:
Special widgets only for .Mac users under Tiger! :D
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Okay. Got me there. :D
 
politik said:
Good thing you're not a Computer Engineer, or we'd have to invent a 'dedicated chip for flash support in Safari' when the entire flash VM is software-based.
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You mean "The entire Flash VM is presently software-based."

Yes. But -- as someone as knowledgeable as you must surely know -- software can be embedded or "burned" onto a chip. And since it's already been well-publicized that getting Flash onto the iPhone has been a particularly difficult task, it will take some out-of-the-box thinking to get Flash working efficiently on the iPhone.

One theory (not my own -- but that of someone who thinks out of the box) is that off-loading Flash processing to a chip might be one way to streamline and speed up the process, while requiring less battery drain than real-time processing. Is that how it's done, presently? No. But the process of coming up with clever, new ideas is called innovation.

But of course you knew that. :)
 
HOw about more battery life???

YOu can never have too much battery life.

And more speed!!!
 
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