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My only question is how did this get approved in the first place?
Right? Looking at the App Store, there are reviews since at least 2015.

Apple approved this, and has presumably been "reviewing" updates for years, until just now realizing it's an emulator. Certainly doesn't say much for the quality of the App Store governance.
 
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Right? Looking at the App Store, there are reviews since at least 2015.

Apple approved this, and has presumably been "reviewing" updates for years, until just now realizing it's an emulator. Certainly doesn't say much for the quality of the App Store governance.

I mean the Commander X16 app is an emulator of a new 8 bit computer… so I don’t see all the fuss Apple has over a DOS Emulator.
 
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There’s no point in buying the new M1 iPad Pro if everything that can benefit from it like Fortnite, Retroarch, iDOS 2, etc. are blocked. The lack of freedom and restrictions are so bad compared to the original Apple of the 1980s where you own the device and can do and run whatever you wish.
 
Congrats sounds like you belong to the 0.0001% of Apple users that does at least something right.

Anyway, I bet you're not telling the whole story.
If I had access to your macOS I surely would find someway to access all your iPhones data and more.
A few memory dumps here, few memory injections there, and I would get access to everywhere.
I highly doubt that, with a secure password no gets in without specialist hard to come by software, and even their claims have no real proof or evidence in reality.
 
It wouldn’t devalue anything. Everything would be exactly the same as it is now, except for the users who want to enable sideloading.
Except that’s not true.

imagine your mom, or grandad or unsuspecting but desperate everyday user. They receive notification via email or sms saying that you can download the app that can help solve all their money problems, it can consolidate accounts and monitor spending, or it can offer you ‘some other’ answer to whatever a common problem could be.
So you follow the carefully laid out instructions. Takes you to the official look ‘app store’, shows you how to disable the options in settings, reassuring you along the way. Then it’s done. All your info is now at the mercy of whomever
You or I may know what the deal is, as tech savvy computer users. But it’s a phone. Everyone and their dog has one. It’s not for tech savvy computer users. It’s for everyone.
This is the issue. It can’t be ignored, and sideloading does exactly that. For what? so a few tech heads can mess with stuff? You can either buy android or you can jailbreak. Everyone else shouldn’t be put at risk for your niche use case.
 
Those of us who ask for sideloading, this is another big reason why.

We should be able to run software on hardware we own even if it goes against Apple's moral code.
Not really tho - it’s not an open platform. Just like Nintendo or Xbox or Playstation hardware. You can’t use their distribution networks to put your own stuff onto them.

You’re free to jailbreak your iPhone and try to put it on there yourself tho.
 
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How were you able to install 12.6.5.3 on Mojave? I tried to install it on High Sierra and it failed (after removing the original itunes). I got it to install on El Capitan but I am unable to download any of my purchased apps.
Looooooong reading time, mate.
 
As a 20-year veteran of Apple products, Windows 11 is looking more alluring by the day.

Seriously. Microsoft is opening up just as Apple is closing in on itself. I used to be an unapologetic Mac aficionado. Now I'm almost ashamed on behalf of Apple's abhorrent business practices.

I am wondering the same. How many of us are there. 20 years of Apple. I still remember the days I dream of the Revenge of Mac against Microsoft. 2008 was the year where it was like history repeating with Android. I am sure Steve thought something similar as well. But Apple managed well and succeeded.

What we didn't see coming was once the rebels or pirate, became the Government and Navy themselves.
 
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This is the kind of consumer-hostile nonsense that is making me think long and hard about what I intend to replace my XS Max with.

I’d love to hear Apple explain how not letting me play 25 or 30-year-old games for a quick nostalgia fix is for my own good.

Of course they’d probably come up with some mealymouthed nonsense, like when they try to explain why it’s bad and wrong to stream external, unvetted content (games) to an iOS device, but it’s also perfectly fine to stream external, unvetted content (videos) to an iOS device.

There is no competition. Either use iOS with with Apple's forced rules on what you can or can't do or use Android and sell your soul to Google and other data collectors. Not to mention that horrid OS GUI and UX. Pick your poison.
 
Next Apple will tell you which news apps should you read and which social group apps you should hang with
 
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Except that’s not true.

imagine your mom, or grandad or unsuspecting but desperate everyday user. They receive notification via email or sms saying that you can download the app that can help solve all their money problems, it can consolidate accounts and monitor spending, or it can offer you ‘some other’ answer to whatever a common problem could be.
So you follow the carefully laid out instructions. Takes you to the official look ‘app store’, shows you how to disable the options in settings, reassuring you along the way. Then it’s done. All your info is now at the mercy of whomever
You or I may know what the deal is, as tech savvy computer users. But it’s a phone. Everyone and their dog has one. It’s not for tech savvy computer users. It’s for everyone.
This is the issue. It can’t be ignored, and sideloading does exactly that. For what? so a few tech heads can mess with stuff? You can either buy android or you can jailbreak. Everyone else shouldn’t be put at risk for your niche use case.
What an utter nonsense. As i said in some older thread, my over 70y old mom and my over 70y old due to a stroke half paralyzed dad, both with sub zero tech savvyness, never got any Android malware, nor issues with shady emails trying to sideload malware on their phones. Maybe these helpless iOS users who fears optional sideloading shall start using that flubber thing inside their heads, it does not wear out when they use it, it wears out when they don’t (💡 i see , this explains a lot!). The ones who can’t would be probably safer being under a legal custody, handing any phone to them is like non-assistance of person in danger.
 
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Absolute tyranny. Apple can go screw themselves.
Wow, you have a fairly low bar for “tyranny”, glad you will never have to deal with real tyranny. However, Apple were clear before you purchased the device what restrictions they applied. Given your attitude, not sure why you would buy a product from such an evil company.
THIS is why we need competing app stores on iOS. THIS is why we need sideloading.
Nope. This is why you should not buy their products. You want something they are clear they will not provide and many other customers also oppose.
Apple has NO BUSINESS forcing us to have crippled devices. It’s MY device. I should be able to install WHATEVER I want on it.
Apple does not force you to have anything at all. They sell a product with a set of restrictions, all of which are clear upfront and have been in place since the products were launched. If you purchased one of their devices, you understood the restrictions, why would you purchase such a limited product?
 
I presume no one would be forced to install anything from an App Store other than Apple’s. Other stores would devalue the entire ecosystem not one iota for people who choose not to use them.
As soon as there are alternative application stores, every application that does not want to be bound by Apple’s privacy, tracking, and other restrictions will move there, and only there. Applications like Facebook, etc. would only be available there. Without the force of Apple’s restrictions, people will no longer have an option of the privacy protecting versions.

That means the existence of the other stores does in fact devalue the ecosystem as right now, those applications have privacy protecting versions and in your world they will not.
 
As soon as there are alternative application stores, every application that does not want to be bound by Apple’s privacy, tracking, and other restrictions will move there, and only there. Applications like Facebook, etc. would only be available there. Without the force of Apple’s restrictions, people will no longer have an option of the privacy protecting versions.

That means the existence of the other stores does in fact devalue the ecosystem as right now, those applications have privacy protecting versions and in your world they will not.

An emulator doesn’t violate privacy. Sure there’s ad supported emulators on Android but yet again iOS and iPadOS the same emulator is way more polished.
 
What an utter nonsense. As i said in some older thread, my over 70y old mom and my over 70y old due to a stroke half paralyzed dad, both with sub zero tech savvyness, never got any Android malware, nor issues with shady emails trying to sideload malware on their phones. Maybe these helpless iOS users who fears optional sideloading shall start using that flubber thing inside their heads, it does not wear out when they use it, it wears out when they don’t (💡 i see , this explains a lot!). The ones who can’t would be probably safer being under a legal custody, handing any phone to them is like non-assistance of person in danger.
Yeah. ios and it’s documented higher spending users suddenly allowing alternate Appstores and sideloading wouldn’t be a lure for nefarious groups. Sure.
 
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"user choice" is not high on the list of priorities for Apple customers. Just look at many who suffer "paralysis by analysis" in trying to pick an iPad model, or storage capacity within a model.
You can back these statements up with what data that shows that Apple users have a problem trying to pick devices?
Apple customers appreciate the way Apple restricts what they are able to do with the devices they buy. It gives them a SENSE of safety and security... even if it isn't quite true.
Sorry, they like that Apple prevents companies like Facebook and Google from tracking us across sites and being forced to get permission to track us at all.
They like being restricted from downgrading the firmware, and the safety that comes with being unable to sideload apps.
You do understand what social engineering is, right? As soon as there is a way past the security, there is no security. When a kid or non-technical adult is told they need to sideload this application to play Fortnite or get tech support, it is a real problem. When your university or employer requires you to sideload a monitoring app, it is a problem. These are just some of the problems.
If Apple were to give users the choice to sideload apps, it would cause those who feel safe and secure to become unsettled...
Sideloading, just like alternative application stores would make it so that companies that do not want to comply with Apple’s privacy, tracking, and labeling rules will not, making it much more difficult (or impossible) for those of us who care about those things to have an option that respects those requirements.
there would be a tension between that feeling of safety and FOMO (fear of missing out) if a sideloaded app became popular. The tension introduced by the ability to sideload would indeed devalue the platform for those people.
The reality that multiple application stores and sideloading mean that users need to create accounts with multiple stores/sites both increasing the attack surface for PII and credit information, as well as the hassle of keeping track of these accounts. There seems to be this dissonance between the arguments that having alternative application stores and side loading will create competition and the argument that it will not change the ecosystem for those that do not want to use them. The only way they create competition is if a substantial number of application are only available through some alternate purchasing mechanism, in which case those who have the security and convenience of a single, trusted source for applications will no longer have that. So either they have no impact as no one uses them and Apple spends a great deal of resources implementing something that no one wants, or they have a great impact eliminating the trusted source.
iOS devices were my primary mobile devices for quite a while. But after it became painfully obvious that Apple was slow-walking improvements (in order to sell more hardware over a longer period of time), I started to replace them for non-Apple devices when it made technical and financial sense to do so.
That is quite funny. Apple devices get software updates for so much longer than Android devices, and Apple Silicon CPUs are often two generations ahead of their competition, but I am sure they are doing just what you say. Glad you are able to find devices that work for you.
I like the ability to have an iPad Mini 5 that is different from my Android devices. The Mini serves a niche need but when I need to be productive on a mobile platform, that's where Android comes in. I don't want iOS/iPad OS to simply be another Android.
I am curious what niche does your iPad serve for which there is not an equivalent Android solution, especially, since you have made clear that you are only productive on Android devices.
 
As soon as there are alternative application stores, every application that does not want to be bound by Apple’s privacy, tracking, and other restrictions will move there, and only there. Applications like Facebook, etc. would only be available there. Without the force of Apple’s restrictions, people will no longer have an option of the privacy protecting versions.

That means the existence of the other stores does in fact devalue the ecosystem as right now, those applications have privacy protecting versions and in your world they will not.
Y‘all should make up your mind. Is the argument that customers love the restrictions of the Apple garden or they’re champing at the bit to shed them?

If you think Facebook is willing to make its app available only to the fraction of users willing to be tracked, you’re welcome to that conjecture, but that’s all it is.
 
I don't know why it works, I'm not a behaviorist or economist, but IRL the choice of three alternatives (in our case "multiple vendors offering devices on Android platform" is not an alternative, as the platforms are only two) forces the authors of these alternatives to pay more attention to real, not imposed or invented by a 3rd party, user needs. Look even at the "big" consumer OS market - most is Windows, tiny part is Apple and even smaller part is Linux (and some smaller options) - but none of them requires the end user to surrender as much of their interests/freedom/convenience as iOS+Android duopoly does. No systems without disadvantages there too, but also you are not locked in the situation of a false choice there.
PC OS makers don't force users to give up as much freedom because they're PCs, not phones, and PC users need the freedom. I know people always fret about Apple making the Mac App Store the only way to get Mac apps, but they actually can't do that without losing everyone. It's only in these tech forums that people talk about side loading stuff onto phones. Most users don't care; just either want something cheap or something nice.

The phone game isn't just two players. If both manage to slack and trust each other, there's a threat from plenty of other big players like Amazon who can enter and sweep the market before they can react. They fight really hard as it is. Even without the threat, I don't think they'd cooperate either.

If anything the PC OS market is worse with MS clearly dominating and resting on their laurels. They've made the same pos for the past 20 years, and its greatest improvement was sticking another OS on it (WSL), lol.
 
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There’s a hard limit of how long iOS apps can run in the background. Have a look at the API documentation.
I know. The app can also wake itself in the background in a variety of ways. What Apple says about killing apps to save battery is untrue; it's actually the only way to fully prevent waking (no I'm not talking about background app refresh).
 
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I see you already saw the quote by another member. I’ll bring a new one here: the extreme of one side is the other side. I dunno if Apple knows the innate risk by going to an extreme, but such pursue is dangerous.

Also, I call the choice between android and iOS a “paradox of choice” or “pick the poison”. They are so similar these days what iOS/android attracted users are going away as time goes on. I fully expect you disagree with this notion, but Apple should not be able to literally do whatever they want.
There are plenty of other developed countries that don't let their tech giants do as they please. Where's their thriving phone industry?

Edit: Meant to also say but ran out of time, as I said above, it's more than just 2 players. Even though only 2 are dominant right now, the US has a really innerly competitive tech industry with big corps willing to enter any space that makes sense.
 
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Also, I call the choice between android and iOS a “paradox of choice” or “pick the poison”. They are so similar these days what iOS/android attracted users are going away as time goes on.
How are they so similar? One has many different phones from many different manufactures with many different features and price points. The other is a singular manufacturer with a limited set of phones at a limited set of price points. One has side loading and multiple application stores, the other does not. One allows a large variety of choices for default applications, screen layouts, and many other things, the other does not. One focuses on tight integration between the hardware and software the other does not. Once focuses on privacy and security with a locked down system, and the other does not.
I fully expect you disagree with this notion, but Apple should not be able to literally do whatever they want.
What is your definition of “literally do whatever they want”, as it is clear they cannot do anything close to that. They are limited in how much they can raise their hardware prices without pricing themselves out of the market. The fact that “reader” applications exist shows that the balance of power is not exclusively in their favor. If they were to ban Facebook altogether, do you think there would be no impact on their sales?
 
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There are plenty of other developed countries that don't let their tech giants do as they please. Where's their thriving phone industry?
Ok I get it: innovation thrives in an unlimited environment. Thanks for enlightening me.
 
I purchased this program yesterday. I typed in the following command:

Mount s ~/

Then I typed in

Dir S:

Yikes! I can see why Apple pulled it down :O
 
How are they so similar? One has many different phones from many different manufactures with many different features and price points. The other is a singular manufacturer with a limited set of phones at a limited set of price points. One has side loading and multiple application stores, the other does not. One allows a large variety of choices for default applications, screen layouts, and many other things, the other does not. One focuses on tight integration between the hardware and software the other does not. Once focuses on privacy and security with a locked down system, and the other does not.
I do find them more similar in use now. Yes the OSs are super different, but the same apps run on both for the most part, which is the only reason I can understand non-techie users opting for Android. Same reason Windows can be sorta usable, it has software for it. There was a time when Instagram was iPhone-only and the only Android user I knew was an unusual guy.
 
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