They aren’t going to delay shipping the phone. So it needed to ship with what they had finished.
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Apple to Release iOS 13 on September 19, iOS 13.1 and iPadOS on September 30
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HumpYourWayUp
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No one will ever mark your words!
chucker23n1
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chucker23n1
macrumors G3
Yes, but since they're apparently not shipping 13.0 on iPads, they could've also decided not to ship 13.0 on any iPhone other than the 11.
Apparently never. We were supposed to know that beta 8 was the GM 3 weeks ago, somehow. What a joke.
chucker23n1
macrumors G3
There's no such thing as a massive piece of software that doesn't have known issues.
this is not surprising to me as I have been using iPadOS 13.1 beta 2 and there are still bugs. Springboard crash, keyboard navigation defects, etc. They bit off a lot with this iPadOS release so the 10ish day delay while uncharacteristic for Apple is understandable. I will gladly take a delay for all the new features coming to iPad. I've been using the Beta since day 1 and it is a huge leap towards productivity parity with MacBook. Mouse support, full Safari browser, file downloads, USB storage, today screen pinned widgets really make a big difference.
Yes, it will, and I called it back during beta 2. It was already evident at that time.
n-evo
macrumors 68020
The audio engineer messed up a little with the timing of the applause/clap track.
And I lost count of how may times I heard "excited, & exciting" words.
Not much for me here today, except for the always on watch display... I took only a sip of the Koolaid 😉
For the people that (want to) do better camera work; "rock on"
Cheers
And I lost count of how may times I heard "excited, & exciting" words.
Not much for me here today, except for the always on watch display... I took only a sip of the Koolaid 😉
For the people that (want to) do better camera work; "rock on"
Cheers
There is however such a thing as standards and acceptable quality, and Apple has plummeted, plummeted in this department in recent years. Pretty sure I know why too.
macduke
macrumors G5
I told you guys that iOS/iPadOS was especially buggy this year and I was worried about things being delayed. People told me to just wait until launch. Well, launch is here and it's delayed a bit. They probably put all the effort into making sure iOS, their golden child on the iPhone was running better and then will patch up iPadOS which surely shares at least 90% of the same code. Even so, last year iOS 12 was released the Monday after the keynote, and this one is the Thursday after, so even iOS is a little bit delayed.
developer13245
macrumors 6502a
Agree.. And iOS 9: the first disaster where Apple started its descent into idiocy. Apple has an even/odd problem. Make a mess, then spend a year cleaning it up.
I stayed on iOS 10 until a month ago when I updated to 12.4.. and 12.4.1 yesterday. Hang out on that until the dust settles.
13.0 <-> 13.1 out of step is a sure sign of software development fail. Sigh...
Maxtoid
macrumors member
I read somewhere that build 17A5572a was the GM for 13.0 since that's when they forked to 13.1 - It makes sense too since they probably had to submit a GM build to be installed on the iPhone 11 devices that were in manufacturing.
Well, one pundit has theorized (and he's pretty convincing) that 13.0 was frozen to have something to load onto the new phones, so they can ship out ahead of the tariffs. Then 13.1 will be sitting there, available on delivery.
I'm sure that we'll see a GM soon, otherwise the new phone will ship with the beta code - there just isn't enough time to image that many phones that fast. I suspect the delay in iPadOS is to manage the bandwidth requirements for upgrades. As for iOS 13.1, it probably needs more time baking and they don't have the window to image all the new phones with it.
chucker23n1
macrumors G3
My concern is that ios13 isn’t ready and they are putting it out rushed just a day before the phones because they have to. Ipados being delayed seems to confirm it as it is basically ios13 anyway.
chucker23n1
macrumors G3
Yes, putting 13.0 on the massive amount of new devices being produced makes sense. (The only alternative they had was to make a special build of 12.x to put on there.)
But putting bothering to release 13.0 on older iPhones is surprising.
With iOS 13.1 dropping the same day as iPadOS, is the iPadOS going to be 13.1? I'm still running the 13.0 Public Beta 8, should I go ahead with the 13.1 Betas? Just curious.
jonnysods
macrumors G3
As soon as all four OS's are released, I'm waiting no sooner than 2 weeks for each device. Just to make sure Apple isn't beta testing on all of us still. From what I read the public betas are still leaving a lot be desired.