I agree.... I have been waiting three years now to upgrade and not even a mention.... what is going on ?
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Apple to Release New MacBook Pro and Air as Early as October, AMD iMacs and 5K Display With LG Also in Works
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"Look at the flowers, iMac. Just keep looking at the flowers..."
God, I wish Apple would just let go of the iMac already. The all-in-one is such a dated concept at this point. A complete ground-up redesign of their consumer desktop offerings would be wonderful but I'm sure they found a way to make the new iMac paper-thin and have figured out how to remove more "unnecessary" features.
Going on a year now since my own iMac died... still haven't bought a new Mac. Still waiting for something worth buying.
Heh. It's not the iMac that bothers me so much as Apple's refusal to offer any other high end consumer desktop choice. The Mini is intentionally inadequate and the Mac Pro is what Apple's high end consumer desktop should be, except maybe smaller since it needs only an i7 with one consumer GPU.
I'm hoping the same for the MBP too. Hopefully that's not how they made it thinner ...
My guess:-What's going to set the Air apart from the Pro and the MacBook? It seems like they are all getting more and more similar. I still find it hard to believe in the continuance of the tripartite MacBook lineup.
And I guess no dGPU in the Pro then?
Lighter and Thinner than the Macbook Pro.
Cheaper than the Macbook. [no retina display to achieve this?]
Would be awesome but it would mean to admit the trashcan was a mistake and I really don't think they care enough to do that.
There was a big thread over on the Mac Pro forum started by someone who claimed Apple are building inventory of a new Mac Pro mini tower. Probably wishful thinking but a full redesign would explain the 3 year wait. If true, then Apple could be waiting on availability of a 5K SST USB-C display.
Re the curved screen iPhone rumors... they said the same thing about the 6 and everybody survived that. I expect we'll see something pretty great that will not be anything like the Samsung Edge or whatever. I don't see a problem with the MacBook, or the Mac Pro (except that it's due for an update). They're both amazing machines. As far as the OLED strip, you make it sound like Apple's engineers don't consider any of these issues. But if you've already decided it's a giant fail based on zero experience with it, so be it, but I'm willing to give them more credit than that.
Pro users should have pro patience
Pro Users should have or already have moved on... I did. At least for now.
I really wanted a Mac Pro but for now I bought a used HP Z620 with two of the same Xeons as are in the "current" Mac Pro, 96GB of RAM, a NVIDIA GPU and an SSD for 1.8K The Mac Pro would have cost me 10K and still don't have dual CPU nor NVIDIA GPU (which I need for various Software and Renderers)
I am a single Artist and therefore much more flexible than even small studios who really need the have a roadmap they can base there Hardware and Platform Upgrades on. With the Pro being neglected like that it's a wonder if half of them sticks with Apple.
A single port is not a "gimmick" and if that doesn't suit you, it's okay — you're not the target market for that machine. Many users never plug USB devices into their laptop.
Judging a feature that we haven't seen yet is silly. Again, their engineers/designers are not idiots and they likely considered all of the imaginary problems you've envisioned. I'm not saying you're entirely wrong, but let's see if any of these problems actually manifest themselves as actual problems instead of the rampant speculation that they completely **** the bed?
You've seen the Apple patents for the completely virtual keyboard/control surfaces right?
This, I think, is what irks me about Apple most these days. They're making so much money, they can pretty much just do what they want and ignore their customers requests. There is an entire market of people just like you and I who want something more powerful than a Mini, but don't want the outlay of a Mac Pro, nor do they want the restricted 'all in one' of the iMac. But they simply don't need to listen it seems.
I don't want to have to go to a Hackintosh for my next system but I'm not sure what else to do. I prefer OSX by a country mile to Windows and Linux - so not sure what else I can do.
You're ruling out the possibility of larger MacBooks. Also, all 1080p iMacs will be probably be discontinued by the end of next year.
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The new keyboard is significantly thinner, and considering it takes up most of the area above the electronics it'll likely be included. I don't mind it but I think implementing the redesigned scissor keyboard with new backlighting would be more acceptable for the target audience of the Pro.
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Probably next year with the Kaby Lake refresh.14-inch MacBook, please!
I've been nice all year Santa Tim.
I'm seriously thinking along the lines that half the reason the Mac Pro hasn't seen a refresh for so long is that when it does manifest, it won't be the same form factor as it is now. Just a gut feeling that the current trashcan has already exceeded or has already become too close to exceeding what the thermal core can handle in terms of heat/power that it can handle. A failed experiment, as it were. If a new design were to feature even the slightest hint of upgradability like the older cheesegrater models, in a size of say 3 or 4 current Mac Minis with less reliance on external cabled peripherals, I'd get excited about that...
That's not how it works at Apple. The bean counters and industrial designers now rule Apple. With Ive in control of software interface design and hardware design I'd bet good money that he had a hand in this virtual F-key strip. His design record shows a gross neglect of function in favor of form, so I fully expect the virtual F-keys to look slick and be a function downgrade from physical f-keys.
Look at it this way: it's common to buy a physical keyboard to use in lieu of the virtual keys on a touchscreen device. Have you ever heard of anyone buying a virtual touchscreen keyboard to replace a physical keyboard?
There will be a new Mac Pro, it will now be available in Rose Gold, but internal specs will remain unchanged.
Personally I'd go for option 1: one Mac to manage and two displays at the desk (I love working with two displays); the MBP is powerful enough for my personal and work needs.Hmmm...new MacBook Pro + 5K Thunderbolt Display or new 5K iMac and keep my 12-inch MacBook for portability? Perhaps the ultimate first world problem of 2016
Pros/Cons of Option 1: MacBook Pro + 5K Display
Pros
Cons
- Just one Mac to manage and worry about
- More powerful portable
- Display will last a long time
- Less powerful desktop
- Heavier portable
- Need to plug in a cord every time you sit down
Pros/Cons of Option 2: 5K iMac and keep my 12-inch MacBook
Pros
Cons
- No compromises, super powerful desktop
- Ultra-portable notebook
- Need to manage multiple Macs, using semi-unreliable services like Back to my Mac and iCloud to unify the file systems
- Less powerful portable
First of all, Metal is based on Mantle, the same API that Vulkan is made of.
Secondly.
Don't you think that Polaris desktop lineup is somewhat indicator of the performance of Mobile GPUs from AMD, especially in new APIs? In DX11 AMD GPUs are bottlenecked by nature of the APIs, in DX12 and Vulkan, which both are based on Mantle, just like Metal, their performance jumps up.
We do not know what RX M480 really is. It can be cut down chip or it can be full, 1024 GCN core chip with 35W TDP.
You call me cherry picker, but what people are doing on this forum? Constantly repeating the same opinions about Nvidia, based on perception of brand.
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Does seem like the trashcan was probably a failed experiment. I don't think Pro's were too happy having to have all their accessories hanging off the back of the thing, and much preferred internal upgrades like the previous and far superior form factor!
My 2012 iMac is still great, by far the best iMac I've had in terms of not slowing down, ability to connect, screen fade, 4 years in. But I did replace the hard drive last year after it failed.
So I don't really need a new one except that I should have got a 27" instead of this 21.5" - that'll make a big difference to my work. And I've got a crappy Amazon keyboard after i had an accident with the old one. So it's starting to look like I might upgrade this cycle - if so it'll be the first time in 20y I do so with a mac that's still running OK.
So I don't really need a new one except that I should have got a 27" instead of this 21.5" - that'll make a big difference to my work. And I've got a crappy Amazon keyboard after i had an accident with the old one. So it's starting to look like I might upgrade this cycle - if so it'll be the first time in 20y I do so with a mac that's still running OK.
I didn't manage to read that far as I had already nodded off by that point. I remain to be convinced the iMac update will be any great shakes.
I moved on too. I still have a 2012 Mac Pro 6-core 3.46 but seldom use it. I opted for a Z230 i7 with 32GB RAM and a Quadro GPU. For Photoshop working in Windows is so much more comfortable than on the Mac.
Apple is planning to refresh its Mac lineup, including the MacBook Pro and MacBook Air, as early as October, according to Bloomberg. The report also claims Apple is working on a standalone 5K display in partnership with LG Electronics, while it plans to update iMac models with an option for new graphics chips from AMD.
The report reiterates that the new MacBook Pro will be thinner and include an OLED-based touchscreen strip along the top of the flatter keyboard, which will present functions that dynamically fit the current task or application, as well as integrate Touch ID to enable users to quickly log in using their fingerprint.Apple has reportedly named the feature "Dynamic Function Row" internally, but its official name may differ when announced.
The tweaked MacBook Air models, meanwhile, are said to include multipurpose USB-C ports, which makes the inclusion of Thunderbolt 3 a possibility. No other details were shared about the planned MacBook Air and iMac refreshes.
Apple's plans to work with LG on a standalone 5K display surface two months after it discontinued the five-year-old Thunderbolt Display. It remains unclear if the monitor will be based upon the Retina 5K iMac, and it is also unclear if the report's broad late 2016 timeframe for "some of the new Mac products" includes the display.
The report makes it nearly certain that the focus of Apple's just-announced September 7 media event will be on the iPhone 7 and the second-generation Apple Watch, the latter of which has now been confirmed for the event. Apple will also provide updates about its software, including iOS 10, macOS Sierra, watchOS 3, and tvOS 10.
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