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I wonder how man my iterations of the MBP are going to be released that aren't user upgradable before people let it go. It's not coming back, at least not in the foreseeable future and if it does it'll be due to radical changes in technology.

Let it go already. If you need that, you need to look elsewhere.

I've been waiting for the upgrade for a while. I picked up a stopgap machine last October from Craig's List figuring I'd flip it a couple months later. Haha. Oops.

After over half a year I can say I really want to return to the land of 13". 15" is a bit bigger than I like when I'm having to use the machine away from a desk.

For many of us it's not so much about upgradability. Before one could buy a MacBook and drop in aftermarket RAM to get a sort of discount. When Apple soldered the RAM to the logic board it was effectively a price increase of up to hundreds of dollars. If Apple had lowered the price when they switched to soldered RAM then some of us wouldn't bellyache about it so much.

The biggest kick in the groin was when they soldered the RAM on the Mac Mini. That was a huge price increase. A future-proofed Mini w/16GB RAM is now $900 for the 2.6GHz dual core Mini! Add a keyboard and mouse and you're up to $1K for that gimped aluminum turd.
 
I frankly side with option 2. The option affords you the use of an ultrabook style machine that you will truly carry every where and be a real asset. The iMac will cover your heavy lifting needs.

I am going to do what i call option 3. I am going to get a ultra portable then also get a new 15. I already unloaded my iMac from 2011. The retina macbook i have now will slide nicely into desk duty in place of the old iMac for work horse duty.

This provides me and my SO an ultraportable a work horse portable and a nice steady state machine for the house. I am flexible on if i sell my 2012 macbook retina 15. I was never a super large fan of this model it had to many issues and strange behavior for changing to the dedicated graphics where it flashes the screen.

This now sir is truly a first world problem. I see your first world problem and raise you

:)
But what will the display be at the desk at home with your older 15" MBP? For me, I love having a big 27" iMac in my home office to relax and enjoy. I've had an iMac for most of the past 6 years (2010 and 2013 model). Where I've flip-flopped on is the portable solution. I embraced the iPad with an iPad 2, iPad Air, and iPad mini 4.

While they were O-K, I always found myself frustrated by the ergonomics of typing and multitasking on them. With the release of the 2016 12-inch MacBook, I jumped at the crazy good $999 deal on the 2015 model through Amazon. So far I love it, and am waiting for an all new 5K iMac to replace my 2013 non-retina model. But, if the MacBook Pros and 5K Thunderbolt Display come first, I may not be able to resist selling everything I have to get that setup. Excited for fall.
 
NO F'in MAC PRO?!!!

Seriously...this is like Star Trek....where no man has gone before.

Maybe they're bringing back the PowerMac? I'd love a giant new aluminum tower.

If Apple just released a new thicker and cooler iMac that's user upgradable that can do dual HDDs/SSDs, I'd be a happy camper.
 
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I wonder how man my iterations of the MBP are going to be released that aren't user upgradable before people let it go. It's not coming back, at least not in the foreseeable future and if it does it'll be due to radical changes in technology.

Let it go already. If you need that, you need to look elsewhere.

I've been waiting for the upgrade for a while. I picked up a stopgap machine last October from Craig's List figuring I'd flip it a couple months later. Haha. Oops.

After over half a year I can say I really want to return to the land of 13". 15" is a bit bigger than I like when I'm having to use the machine away from a desk.
Sadly, I think what you are saying is rapidly beginning to apply to most of Apple's products. It's time to face the fact that the old Apple, the company that produced such great and useable products, is gone.
 
AMD Polaris was meant to change this.
It WAS based on the hype that was thrown around before the actual cards became available. Most likely the Fall 2016 iMac 5k is going to have a Polaris 480 variant. Right now the 1070 kills it by being 40% faster while consuming 10 watts less power at the same time. AMD's pathetic glofo 14nm is just catching up to Nvidia's TSMC's 28nm in performance/watt. That's pathetic in a >$2500 loaded iMac with the highest GPU option (it would be unlikely for Apple to lower their prices with this upcoming generation)
Also, the Pascal GPU's now support single cable 5K resolution so that's no longer a hindrance also. Apple's steadfast support of AMD is akin to them trying to stick it out with the G5 when the core 2 duo was killing it.
 
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This is going to be an expensive Holiday for me:

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You can save a little by avoiding the iPhone 7.:p
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Can't wait to read the reactions to another TN panel Air in literally 2016.

Yeah, I can imagine. Another year of being the "cheap", inferior-screened "alternative" to pretty much everything else out there in its price range or close to.
 
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What are the ports on the new MBP gonna look like? If it doesn't have at least one normal non-C port, they deserve a punch to the face. It might be justifiable on a MacBook, but pro users need that one normal port, because they use more peripherals and need to work with other people and their devices...
 
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Apple should bring the Mac Mini back with 8 cores and easily replaceable RAM and HD

like the Intel NUC Skull Candy
 
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The chips appropriate for MBP will not be out until probably mid-2017, just like the Skylake chips most likely to end up in this year's MBP just came out despite what all the armchair engineers in these forums say.

You're right but no matter how many times it gets said, people still don't get it.
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Is ZEN supposed to be superior to kaby lake and Canonlake?



Do you know if the m390 and m395 models run as cool as the m395X?

Zen, from what I've read over at Anandtech, is equivalent to Broadwell-E, which is a huge improvement over their previous processors.
 
Been eagerly anticipating the new MBP to replace my 2009 model.

I've also been crossing my fingers about Apple introducing a new 5K display in this upcoming event, so this article has definitely sparked excitement. As far as I know, LG is currently the only major mass-manufacturer of OLED HDTV's (i've been waiting for the price to drop on a set so I can replace my dead plasma.) I'm hoping this joint-venture means Apple is going to go an extra step to make this upcoming standalone monitor an OLED 5K that can be connected to these upcoming MBP's.......I'm tumescent just thinking about it.
 
The Kaby Lake CPUs that a MacBook Pro would need are looking like mid-2017 and that assumes Intel hits their ship dates, which they have not been very good at. So we'll likely get close to a full year out of a Skylake MacBook Pro refresh before KL is ready and all KL will really bring is integrated TB3/USB-C (which the Skylake MBP will have via the Alpine Ridge controller).

Kaby Lake also brings integrated support for 4K video (HEVC and HDCP 2.2).
 
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