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Apple to Sell Fewer Apple Watch Models in 2016 Despite Launch of Series 2
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Relax people. Why do you care so much? Lots of overly defensive people here...
One generation behind still would be better than being 2(+) generations behind... This whole "waiting on Intel" is just nonsense. If Apple couldn't have thought of anything to do with their "innovation" skills for the MBP or Mac Pro other than to wait for Intel, yikes.
As far as watch sales... It's obvious watch sales aren't going to boom. Doesn't take a supply chain analyst to figure out. Apple dropped a very expensive piece of kit in what is still a niche market serviced by several companies, positioned it next to existing brands on one end of the use scale that are expected to last way longer than even Apple's stretched out cycles (the case of mid-to-high end watches), and all of the competitors have a product that do most of the useful things in daily life (except iMessage if we're being honest) and retail at lower price points.
Whoever wasn't impressed with the Original AW's extra features are probably, if not already, going back to fitbit and garmin or sticking with those. The people who do not need to have the latest and greatest probably expect 3-4 years from their purchase of the original AW because of how pricey it is and won't be getting a Series 1 or 2 (I'd argue that WatchOS 3's vastly better app refresh routines probably convinced more than a few people to hold off on a Series 2 just for the S2's performance boost). That leaves a majority for Series 2 being the "second version'ers" and the "gotta have the latest APPL gear" people. Which is a very small slice of an already small pie.
It can if you have WiFi and AT&T Numbersync. I have WiFi in the car and use my watch for calls when I forget my phone at the house. Not often but it works. On that note, calls on a watch are not that great.
My wife and I are loving our apple watches. I don't feel they are too thick, the interchangeable bands are awesome although apples prices are way too high since you can buy them on amazon for like a tenth the price. As for battery life my 42mm is great (have 8 hours on it and I am at 80% battery. Just time and notifications no work outs today), her 38mm isn't as great but still OK. The killer feature for me is I can call her and she actually picks up instead of the phone ringing in her purse and her not hearing it. Not sure why people make a big deal of its reliance on the iphone, I am glad for it because I dont want to pay for another month data bill and calling on a watch is great at the house but not so good in public
This is the first Apple Watch I will be buying. Adding GPS and Water proofing with all new guts for $369 guaranteed a purchase for me.
Unless I know the watch 2 can track more than the front crawl, I'm not buying it. It should be able to use the gps to know you have gone to the other end and know you kicked. It shouldn't matter whether you do crawl or fly or Breast or back. They all involve sending your arm ahead and then bringin it back to you.
Until then my watch 1 is fine. My wife runs but I got her an arm band for her 6+ and she's fine with it. And I like it as I can use find my friends to see how far up the mountain she is so I know when she will be home. The watch2 with no connection means that if she gets attacked by a mountain lion it will be hard to find her...
Maybe watch 3 will be offered in round version (no honest reason it needs to be square) and the swim tracking software will be more advanced.
Until then my watch 1 is fine. My wife runs but I got her an arm band for her 6+ and she's fine with it. And I like it as I can use find my friends to see how far up the mountain she is so I know when she will be home. The watch2 with no connection means that if she gets attacked by a mountain lion it will be hard to find her...
Maybe watch 3 will be offered in round version (no honest reason it needs to be square) and the swim tracking software will be more advanced.
This thread is very interesting. I paid $232.00 on eBay for a first-gen stainless with leather which I think would have been over $600 plus 10% sales tax. So, people are right that they are not holding value too well. I don't think the original iPhone did either. But I am really impressed with the functionality and frankly, the looks too. One thing that made it easy to go with the original was the increased thickness of Series 2. I think I am lucky that I got in cheap and with low expectations. Now I can get excited about the pluses. If this thing had LTE (and with AirPods) I might learn how to not need an iPhone, which can't take my heart rate or notify me with absolutely no one else knowing. I'm starting to realize how distracted I typically become with the phone.
I think Apple Watch 2 having the same design is a mistake. We can wait two years for a new Watch, but it should at least be a refinement in the design. It's practically the same watch to the untrained eye.
when you start an article "Apple to sell..." it makes it look like Apple is CHOOSING to sell less.
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this seems like all backhanded compliments
Like you EXPECTED the 7 iPhone to be great when its common knowledge that the 10th anniversary one is right around the corner. And the upgraded to the Mac and Laptops are all being held back by chop manufacturers...
come on, show some support...
Interesting... I remember DEC minis being called toys by mainframe guys; then PCs were called toys by mainframe and minicomputer guys; when Apple introduced the Mac, PC guys laughed and called it a silly toy for computer illiterates. Now, people like you are calling modern computers, toys. Oookaaay... I'm detecting a trend here.
I find it amazing how difficult it is for some people to adapt to changing times.
Apple could ameliorate this with the iPod Shuffle.
The Shuffle makes an excellent entry level device, and if they keep it around, they'll need a better way to interface with it. So why not take a note from the Apple Watch and allow it to be synced and managed by the iPhone, and other mobile phones? That way Apple can keep the price low by not adding a Touch screen. Since most people use it for workouts, why not add an accelerometer? And maybe a few more health sensors. It could also be used with chest straps, and other outboard sensors. Since it would have a BT radio, it could basically be used as an entry level Apple Watch, or Apple's answer to FitBit, all for around the same $50 price tag. And just like the old nano/watch trend, fitness straps could be used with it to wear on the wrist, encouraging a fitness band accessory market, just like the Apple Watch.
Currently, Apple can't competent with FitBit which currently has significant market share. So either they drop the price of the Apple Watch which does a lot more than just fitness monitoring, or they add some of the same functionality to a product that's already being used in that capacity like the Shuffle. Or, they just don't worry about competing with FitBit, and continue offering the Shuffle as a single function music player, or discontinue it with the rest of the iPod line in a year or two. Seems like a missed opportunity if the latter is the path they chose.
Apple doesn't really have an entry level Watch product, the way they have an entry level iPhone, iPad, Mac, TV, and currently an iPod. Once Apple eliminates the iPod line (Touch replaced by SE, nano replaced by Watch), the Shuffle will be the sole representative. In a world of multifunction devices, it's hard to imagine a $50 mp3 player being in much demand. And make no mistake the Shuffle has been $50 for years without necessarily adding any new features the way Apple's other products do. The Bluetooth radio is a must, and adding relatively minor features like an accelerometer will not affect their bottom line at all, and make the Shuffle more relevant to a broader market that isn't interested in the upsell to the Watch.
I'm a triathlete, got the series 2 and love it. I don't like wearing my garmin all day and if I forget it when I go to do a workout, it's not an issue anymore.
I love my Apple Watch 1st gen. I feel naked without it. I got it a few months after release. Then in Jan, this year, my company gave everyone apple watches at an event. I took that in and got a gift card at the apple store for $400. I was planning on waiting until Apple Watch 2 came out and upgrading. But I really have no desire to get a AW2. That's kind of a problem for Apple, if someone like me, who always has to have the latest tech, isn't willing to use a free gift card on an upgrade. Maybe AW3?
I'd think that share holders would all agree that growth = success.
Anyways these Apple watches are over priced... especially when you look at others in this category.
.... waiting for MR to delete my post again.... go MR, do it! Who ever the moderator is they are extremely irrational on which posts they choose to delete.
Anyways these Apple watches are over priced... especially when you look at others in this category.
.... waiting for MR to delete my post again.... go MR, do it! Who ever the moderator is they are extremely irrational on which posts they choose to delete.
I like your view point. At least your not someone who purchased the Series 2 and then turned around to bash it on why you do not like it or why you never should have purchased it.
You came to realization it's not for you in the current time. And your correct, for the money, it is expensive. I like mine and appreciate it. But you at least recognize it may not for you and I respect that.
Kuo is right. There's no doubt the Watch contains a lot of cool technology, but trying to graft in a multitouch "phone on your wrist" UI just isn't optimal for non-geeks.
It's the Casio calculator-watch for a new generation. Jony needs to get back to the drawing board with this one!
It's the Casio calculator-watch for a new generation. Jony needs to get back to the drawing board with this one!
Well... There are Skylake chips appropriate for the MBP. But if Apple put those in now rather than wait 4-5 months for the upcoming (and appropriate) Kaby Lake variants, then there would be monumental moaning about Apple using "old tech" cpus. And similar moaning if Apple employed low-powered (and lower performance) KL chips available soon.
If Apple waits for the proper Kaby Lake cpu delaying until next year then there will moaning about Tim Cook putting too much time into building the new campus at the expense of MBPs. Which of course makes zero sense.
Either way, at least for the relative tiny number of tech nerds here who don't understand that, Apple can't win.
For Apple's customers as a whole, either way is fine.