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Apple to Start Allowing Adult Content on iPad

Robert M. said:
I don't have kids yet, but if I did I rather them see "boobs" instead of something extremely violent. Playboy is really tame compared to actual porn. I know it's an old joke that goes, I buy it for the articles, well, I really do!

It's ashamed that softcore pictures of naked women no longer excite me, once you've seen the hardcore stuff Playboy is nothing. :p
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LOL :D jokes apart I personally feel Apple should have kept restrictions on censored content.
 
L-U-R-C-H said:
Think of the children????? What about adults? A marriage can be destroyed by temptations like this...
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I hope this is a joke, I get Playboy delivered to my house (I've been a subscriber for years) and my wife reads them just as much as me. Well, she manly laughs at the airbrushing and photoshop jobs on the models lol :eek:

Temptations will always be there, but at the end of the day it comes down to morals. If someone is going to cheat, there's no way to stop it. They'd do it even if there was no temptation...
 
WestonHarvey1 said:
This is a fallacy. First of all, most parents don't let their kids watch movies or play games with "exploding heads" in them, regardless of their political persuasion. This is a phony comparison constantly brought up to show some supposed hypocrisy.
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I don't think it's hypocrisy. You have many explicit videos of surgeries (in fact, i googled surgeries and one of the results was a brain surgery) and suicides in youtube. Why can't you have porn there too? In both cases the parents are supposed to control what their kids see.

Btw, I don't think that youtube should have porn videos. But I do think that it shouldn't have explicit/gore videos too.

WestonHarvey1 said:
Kids who see some degree of violence in a drama on television, however, don't go out and act on this. Kids who see porn DO go into their bedrooms and masturbate, and begin chasing after more porn. Maybe you can argue this is perfectly healthy, but it does motivate real human behavior in a way that depictions of violence do not. So they're not the same.
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Although the first sentence is not true, I agree with th rest. But just because one is worse than another, it doesn't mean that it's fine to kids view the "less worse" one.

WestonHarvey1 said:
For everyone that thinks its ok for their kids to see porn - that means they'd have no problem with a guy in the park in a trench coat walking up to them and exposing himself, right? It's just nature.
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Do you think that makes any sense? Do you like National Geographic? Can I put you in a cage with a lion? It's just nature.
 
Arguru said:
Do you think that makes any sense? Do you like National Geographic? Can I put you in a cage with a lion? It's just nature.
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Well, I specifically chose a type of pervert who is most likely to be in it for the exhibition only. So assuming its a nice pervert who doesn't want to touch your kid. Then it's just a live performance of what everyone seems to be saying is ok to look at, was the point my hyperbole was trying to make.
 
Arguru said:
I don't think it's hypocrisy. You have many explicit videos of surgeries (in fact, i googled surgeries and one of the results was a brain surgery) and suicides in youtube. Why can't you have porn there too? In both cases the parents are supposed to control what their kids see.

Btw, I don't think that youtube should have porn videos. But I do think that it shouldn't have explicit/gore videos too.



I agree. But just because one is worse than another, it doesn't mean that it's fine to kids view the "less worse" one.



Do you think that makes any sense? Do you like National Geographic? Can I put you in a cage with a lion? It's just nature.
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Indeed. As for the phone "flasher" scenario - the analogy is poor. We're talking about parents taking an active (and needed) role in either monitoring or limiting access. That's not Apple's job. It's the parent. And Apple provides these controls.

Just because a parent is too lazy to invoke them OR can't be bothered to learn how is the problem. I know it's not possible to monitor a child's behavior 24/7.. If a kid wants to get access - they will. Either from a friend.. or what have you.

Again - the onus shouldn't be on Apple beyond Apple providing a way for content filtering.

You'd think based on some posts on this thread that Network TV shouldn't allow bra commercials.
 
whilst i agree this isn't necessarily good news, i'm surprised the idea that this software update to allow subscriptions will follow/be shortly followed by the release of iPad 2 lol
 
WestonHarvey1 said:
Well, I specifically chose a type of pervert who is most likely to be in it for the exhibition only. So assuming its a nice pervert who doesn't want to touch your kid. Then it's just a live performance of what everyone seems to be saying is ok to look at, was the point my hyperbole was trying to make.
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Sorry, I misunderstood your point. But still, you can play GTA and that doesn't mean that you don't care if you watch somebody steal a car... When kids view porn, they are doing it, probably, when they're alone, in a comfortable place like their bedroom. Not being forced to do it.
 
Zunjine said:
It's important to note that porn and sex are not the same thing. You need only compare real sex with the stuff you see in porn to know this. What porn does is objectify women (anyone want to argue that point?) and create unrealistic ideas about sex within the mind of the person who consumes it.

I realise that both men and women enjoy porn and that not all porn is violent or even particularly extreme, but that does not mean that we should ignore the very real dangers of the stuff that is. I certainly would not want my son or daughter exposed to porn at an age when they were not able to understand the context of it, nor would I encourage adults to view it for the reasons outlined above.

Also, comparing attitudes towards sex to those towards violence in this context is misleading. As I said, porn isn't sex but rather a wildly exaggerated and fetishised version of it. Further to this, sex is part of every day life (and certainly not something to be ashamed of) while violence in the extreme sense that we are used to in films and video games is, for most of us, something entirely removed from our every day life experiences. As such any effects on our attitude to violence that may come about as a result of our exposure to such materials (though I don't think their are any) can be safely confined to a fantasy rather than leeching into our personal relationships. Porn, on the other hand, much like the idealised visions of physical perfection with which young women and, increasingly, young men are bombarded, can skew people's expectations and understanding of real sex.
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Very well said. I completely agree with you. The damage isn't really done in the later stages. It's the kids who are too young to understand. Trust me, I can see the damage porn did to me from viewing it at my very early age. However, I don't see Playboy being a big issue if they correctly control it. As long as I don't log in and see PlayBoy being in the top 25 for kids to see then i'm fine with it.
 
First you say this:

WestonHarvey1 said:
No, it doesn't shock me to "learn" that there's more to sex than missionary, and I find it absolutely ridiculous that you would even suggest that it would. Knowing nothing about me, you've judged me to be a prude, based on an anti-pornography opinion.
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But then you go and say this!

WestonHarvey1 said:
It's also ridiculous to elevate pornographers to the position you have - like sex is SO hard to figure out that we need "professionals". What mundane, rudimentary thing are we going to brag about next - our potty training?
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Hahahaha!

"Mundane", "rudimentary". Yep. Clearly you are a master of the tantric arts.
 
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zap2 said:
No, you make a claim, you need to back it up, not the other way around.

If people are going to access it, why not make some money off of it? You said it yourself, Apple's support won't really change availability.
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1) I am a physician. I encounter these issues in relation to addiction somewhat frequently. Furthermore, I have studied psychology and did research in addictive behavior. They are not life and death problems, but instead a negative issue that I encounter from time to time. If you want it spelled out for you then feel free to study it on your own time. I gave the site that people can access to SEEK their own answers should they be so inclined and capable. This is not a medical journal and the thoughts shared by everyone in here are opinion based. I am simply stating that there IS a problem and that I dont think it is healthy. Also, I am saying that educated beings are capable of doing their own research if they please. Research shows that sexual release is healthy, but that porn is directly related to addictive and compulsive behavior often related to marital problems. So, to appease your need for empirical evidence I will use my own experience as my primary source (which works for Answers.com apparently) and here are some other light sources of reading should you feel the desire to indulge yourself (bottom of reply)

2) You fail to understand my perspective in the matter. If I support a company and oppose a practice that is being adopted by said company, then the opinion is self evident. I don't need to explain this, one should intrinsically be able to deduce this. I don't like the porn industry and I don't like to support it. I love Apple and do support it. Thus, I don't like that Apple is supporting the industry I dislike. I hope that is simple enough for people to understand. It isn't about who is right on the matter, this is my opinion that I am sharing. I am not a bigot standing on a soap box relishing my supposed superior ability to deduce, but instead I am sharing my thoughts and expressing my opinions. If you dont understand them then think about them yourself and study them out in your mind. If you still dont get it then perhaps your opinion is different than mine and any answer I give wont unlock that door for you.
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American Psychiatric Association. (2000). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders (fourth edition, text revision). Washington, DC: Author.
Irons, R.; Schneider, J. P. (1996). "Differential diagnosis of addictive sexual disorders using the DSM-IV.". Sexual Addiction & Compulsivity 3: 7–21. International Classification of Diseases, version 2007.
Lowinson, J. H., Ruiz, P., Millman, R. B., & Langrod, J. G. (2004). Substance abuse. Lippincott Williams & Wilkins.
Carnes, P., & Adams, K. M. (2002). Clinical management of sex addiction. Psychology Press.
Lonely All the Time: Recognizing, Understanding, and Overcoming Sex Addiction, for Addicts and Co-dependents. 1989. p. 57.
 
I think the reason why Playboy could get its app into the App Store is that under iOS 4.3 or newer, anytime you try to start the Playboy app it requires you to enter a password code manually--no exceptions! And Apple may design it so that you can't save the password for the Playboy app or any adult-oriented app, either.
 
ormed14 said:
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2) You fail to understand my perspective in the matter. If I support a company and oppose a practice that is being adopted by said company, then the opinion is self evident. I don't need to explain this, one should intrinsically be able to deduce this. I don't like the porn industry and I don't like to support it. I love Apple and do support it. Thus, I don't like that Apple is supporting the industry I dislike. I hope that is simple enough for people to understand. It isn't about who is right on the matter, this is my opinion that I am sharing. I am not a bigot standing on a soap box relishing my supposed superior ability to deduce, but instead I am sharing my thoughts and expressing my opinions. If you dont understand them then think about them yourself and study them out in your mind. If you still dont get it then perhaps your opinion is different than mine and any answer I give wont unlock that door for you.
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I don't know why this is hard for people to get. I've been written off as some prudish kook I'm sure.

I'm a hardcore libertarian, but not a libertine. My views on human morality would give me the label "social conservative". I don't care what people choose to poison themselves with, but that doesn't mean I have to claim those poisons are good and advocate them.
 
There is a simple solution to this whole argument, just don't give your credit card to your children. Problem solved.
 
I never understood that for most Americans it's perfectly acceptable to show people being blasted and shot to bits, but a boob and a nipple here and there makes them want to hide their kids until they are 30 years old...:confused:
 
DrRadon said:
Exploding heads in comics, games and movies are ok. But a bunch of breasts are bad for your children. You have to love america, they are just so easy to make fun of.
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You're right on. Americans are so funny - they live in a bubble. No nudity, no alcohol - but come on, US is such a free country....right........:)
 
peterdevries said:
I never understood that for most Americans it's perfectly acceptable to show people being blasted and shot to bits, but a boob and a nipple here and there makes them want to hide their kids until they are 30 years old...:confused:
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LMAO!
so true. go figure those yankees. ;)
 
Trashy. Apple should be above this. Porn = classless (times ten when it's mainstream).

Balk away. I won't reply. I've weighed in, and I'm out.
 
Who'd have thought that a playboy on iPad would be a touchy subject... (boom boom).

As long as there are easy to use (and difficult to circumvent) parental controls, it's good to have choice.

Sincerely,
Deranged, unhealthy, mal-adjusted porn-addict in Cork.
 
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