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2 things that can't be in the same sentence. Emerging markets and $490!

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...and I guess it will be a boring 4" device again, especially since there were no leaks of a bigger phone at all...

such a shame.. :|

I wonder how long Apple can hold out on the screen size, telling themselves the customers need for one is not really happening.
 
Why is the rumored low cost phone "dubbed" 5C but the new iPhone is known to be '5S'

How does anyone know that it will be called 5S?

Says Who!!! Please tell me, thank you

edit: don't tell me about 'patterns'

Well, you've answered your question haven't you?.....
 
Why is the rumored low cost phone "dubbed" 5C but the new iPhone is known to be '5S'

How does anyone know that it will be called 5S?

Says Who!!! Please tell me, thank you

edit: don't tell me about 'patterns'

I don't think there is any evidence that it's going to be the 5S. They could still jump to 6.
 
The colors are perfect for ios7. Now to have commercials with MyLittlePony characters...
 
The Samsung Galaxy Note started a new category. SGN2 has sold 10s of millions and spawned many copies to date.

Samsung has the highest resolution displays in 13 inch laptop, highest dpi. Samsung makes the best and highest quality display so much so that Apple has gone back on their word and will once again use Samsung displays. Off the top of my head.

Forget that. Mitsubishi deserves the innovation award for making the largest CRT TV.
 
Well I'm wondering if the 5s may include a larger screen. If Apple decides to release a 5s the specs on that sucker has to be a helluva lot better than the 5c, because if they are close in specs than people will opt for the cheaper more colorful option.

Furthermore every other line of apple products has more than one display size every line. Increasing the iPhones screen size while holding at 4 on the 5c will give them a whole new reason to upgrade to the new model.

Probably wont happen but it seems reasonable

Could be. The fact there has been no leaks about the 5S, is either there isn't one, or they've been releasing their own leaks on the 5C to take the attention off the 5S (as well as the usual super tight manufacturing line leaks). This could then give them the space to announce a bigger iphone in the form of the 5s which would give them the wow factor/appease people wanting bigger screen/take Android sales/make Apple board happy.
 
(Sorry, I have not read all posts)

What bothers me is that Apple has decided to not use standard resolutions for their displays, regardless of the actual display size.

Display resolutions are not arbitrary, most content is designed to fit well known dimensions like 1280x720 or 1440x900 or 1600x1080 or Full HD and so forth

I very much disagree. Content on a smartphone isn't designed to fit with 1600x1080 or 1440x900 and there isn't a single smartphone with one of those resolutions.

Likewise Full HD doesn't really do much for a phone since videos can easily be downsized without any significant noticeable quality loss unlike line drawings and texts. Also why would we arbitrarily decide a phone should match a standard that was designed for video content on a large living room display? Other than the fact people already know the words HD, 1080p, etc, and it makes a great marketing sense, I don't see any particular reason why a smartphone should use one of those "standard" resolutions.
 
I understand why apple are bringing out a cheaper iPhone but hope that they ensure the 5S is worth the price difference. One of the things I love about apple is the built quality and thus are prepared to pay the extra.

Aluminum doesnt cost much more than Polycarbonate so if your paying $100 more just for a Aluminum casing, your getting ripped off. On th other hand if you dont mind paying that for something that is maybe $5 more to produce, well fine.

Myself, i dont like aluminum because it is too damn slippery and i drop the phones a lot more than i normally would and it ends up gertting a case on it anyways that i can grip. I prefer the plastic much more.
 
Aluminum doesnt cost much more than Polycarbonate so if your paying $100 more just for a Aluminum casing, your getting ripped off. On th other hand if you dont mind paying that for something that is maybe $5 more to produce, well fine.

Myself, i dont like aluminum because it is too damn slippery and i drop the phones a lot more than i normally would and it ends up gertting a case on it anyways that i can grip. I prefer the plastic much more.

One needs to be fabricated to an end product, the other gets poured into a mold. Which do you think costs more?
 
Though OS X Mavericks is also scheduled to be released in the fall, AllThingsD does not expect the software to be debuted at the September 10 iPhone event.

Since the fall starts on Sept 21st it wouldn't make sense for apple to release on Sept 10

Btw since fall runs all the way to Dec 21 it is fair to describe 'in the fall' as meaning 'sometime late this year'
 
One needs to be fabricated to an end product, the other gets poured into a mold. Which do you think costs more?

Poured into a mold and made into a finished product. Aluminum it gets put on a machine that is programed to cut it in a matter of seconds. It may cost a little more than Polycarbonate but it isnt much more at all, Look it up.

Aluminum is a very cheap metal. It only costs .81c per LB.

You can buy aluminum backs for GS3's and GS4's and they are only $6-$8 and they are making a profit.
 
Ok, so we have....

a date, tough?....AllThingsD have a good record in my opinion. But I do not have too much time with my iPhone. So I am not too excited for new iPhone models. But will be nice see iOS 7 coming out the same time. I like the Betas I had tried...:D


:):apple:
 
Poured into a mold and made into a finished product. Aluminum it gets put on a machine that is programed to cut it in a matter of seconds. It may cost a little more than Polycarbonate but it isnt much more at all, Look it up.

Aluminum is a very cheap metal. It only costs .81c per LB.

You can buy aluminum backs for GS3's and GS4's and they are only $6-$8 and they are making a profit.

you must have missed the part where companies like Goldman Sachs are buying up the commodities simply to artificially inflate the prices of goods that make up tech products so they can add yet another zero to their 2million dollar bonuses at the end of the year.
 
0% chance.

Why distract users with so many new products at once?

Even copySumg only announces S4. Than Note 3 at different events and announces tablets at different event.

Personally I don't care who gets distracted over what. I'm just waiting to upgrade my ipad 2 and if they release 5 new products that day, I won't be distracted from buying my iPad. Simple as that. I also don't particularly care what Samsung does. At some point in the next 2 months, new iPads will be announced. Hopefully sooner than later. I understand how and why things happen but quite frankly I also don't care about anyone's distractions.
 
Unless I'm going to be able to completely turn off the fingerprint reader, I'm not going to buy this phone. It's that simple. I'm pretty much certain that everyone's fingerprints will be sent to Apple for analysis - and on the way there, someone (*cough*NSA*cough*) will love to take a close peak at them. Don't get me wrong - the government already has my fingerprints as the US is treating its guests at the border like criminals already - but having them sent around the internet or having third-party apps read them and send them to god knows where? No thanks.

I doubt anything but a hash made out of the fingerprint sensor output will make it into the system, let alone to any app or the internet. The point is to verify user's identity, not to distribute your epidermal map. Same as passwords - you need to compare hashes computed using the password cleartext and compare those, without ever transmitting the actual password.
 
I doubt anything but a hash made out of the fingerprint sensor output will make it into the system, let alone to any app or the internet. The point is to verify user's identity, not to distribute your epidermal map. Same as passwords - you need to compare hashes computed using the password cleartext and compare those, without ever transmitting the actual password.

We'll see - I just see some parallels with how Google is sending your personal WiFi passwords along with all the other junk to their servers if you enable Android's cloud-backup feature
 
Bloat does not happen over night. Best to prevent it before it starts. I am seriously worried about this. ANd with no Jobs there to prevent the bloat, who knows. I just hope Cook and co are smart enough to realise this. The 90's Apple CEO's were not smart enough to notice this. And Apple paid the price for it.

There is no bloat, releasing two version of the iPhone (Apples most profitable product) is NOT bloat. Bloat is having hundreds of different products and carpet bombing every conceivable niche just to get a sale (i.e. Samsung) Having a cheaper phone is a good strategy for emerging markets, sure they may cut in to the higher end iPhone sales but better than losing emerging Markets like China and India to Samsung and others.

The reason Apple got in to trouble in the past is they were selling rubbish like printers etc. very low margin crap, Apple won't bother getting in to a new product category unless the margins are there, it's just not worth their time.
 
Finally we have a date. I'm eager to get this behind us so Apple can focus on iPhone 6. It feels like they've been crawling along and milking customers for every last dollar instead of advancing and making the progress the competition has. If they shift their priorities from law suits to smartphone innovation, Apple would be much more exciting and resume leading the field. Oh sure they have obscene amounts of money, but that's only one objective.
 
All in time for the holiday shoppers. Tim Cook has kept saying its going to be a big Fall for Apple...

This will be a important year for apple. If they don't make something great, it certainly will be a big "fall" (not the season) for them.

Hope the 5S delivers. Can't wait!:D
 
There is no bloat, releasing two version of the iPhone (Apples most profitable product) is NOT bloat. Bloat is having hundreds of different products and carpet bombing every conceivable niche just to get a sale (i.e. Samsung) Having a cheaper phone is a good strategy for emerging markets, sure they may cut in to the higher end iPhone sales but better than losing emerging Markets like China and India to Samsung and others.

The reason Apple got in to trouble in the past is they were selling rubbish like printers etc. very low margin crap, Apple won't bother getting in to a new product category unless the margins are there, it's just not worth their time.

Two new versions of the iPhone, is 1 version more then the usual release. That is a 100% increase. And you are not thinking forward into the future. The Apple of the 90's bloat did not happen over night. It took years. But it had to start somewhere. The main point here is to notice the signs before it gets out of control. So you prevent it ever getting out of control.

And Apple's margins are slowly shrinking. iPad mini then the iPhone 5C then who knows what else. There is an obvious trend starting up here. One I do not like.

Having a cheaper phone or cheaper anything is not always the answer as you think it should be. People wanted Apple to make a cheaper notebook in the sub $1000 range. Apple said no. And gave the public a premium table instead. That was the right move.

I am not saying a cheaper iPhone is or is not the right idea. I am just saying to seriously think about it. Would I buy a cheap iPhone 5C new outright if it was released in Australia and looked good? Probably yes. And I think a lot of people would. But long term is this in Apple's best interests? I simply don't know.

Also you talk about the printers and other cheap junk the 90's Apple sold. That's only part of the reason. There was bloat, with stuff like the newtons, too many Mac models. And the clones really hurt Apple too. It was a combination of everything.

in short your statement is correct for today. But you need to think into the future. Skate to where the puck will be. And see that the trends Apple are starting today could potentially have devastating consequences for Apple in the future. I know I am being critical of Apple on an Apple fanboi site. But that is exactly how I feel on the situation.
 
Poured into a mold and made into a finished product. Aluminum it gets put on a machine that is programed to cut it in a matter of seconds. It may cost a little more than Polycarbonate but it isnt much more at all, Look it up.

Aluminum is a very cheap metal. It only costs .81c per LB.

You can buy aluminum backs for GS3's and GS4's and they are only $6-$8 and they are making a profit.

First of all, Aluminium is not that cheap, there are different kinds of aluminium: the one use on planes/spacecrafts (duralumin), the cheap one used on beer cans (judging from your posts, i'm pretty sure you are familiar with canned beer.), etc.

Second, it's not cheap to process it. Look at a macbook: unibody design, high quality anodizing, etc. Just look at the microphone holes, ffs, you think that is cheap?

Of course you can buy GS4 backs for 6 bux. They are just thin sheets of aluminium. Like in a beer can. No processing, no anodizing, no tight fit so it will rattle...
 
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