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It's not an accessory. It will function completely on it's own for the reason which it was made. I know I have to tell you because 95% of people still don't get it. It's being made for biometrics. Will it tell you of notifications from your iPhone? Yes of course.... That's absolutely not why it's being made.

Biosensors are the function of this device. That's what it's for.

Of course, I know that its main thing will be the biosensors but I still find it hard to believe it'll be able to process all the data collected from the sensors and maybe have internet (even wifi would be impressive) on its own. Simple rationale I have in my mind just tells me that it has to use another devices (iPhone, iPad) resources via Bluetooth in order to achieve desired size for design and functionality purposes.
 
The announce could still be coming in October. But if you're doubting the existence of an iWatch then you're not really in touch with reality considering how prolific it is in the rumor mill-- no Apple device ever reaches such a fever pitch of rumors and fails to materialize.

Uh, Apple TV? I even remember reading about the different sizes and resolutions, including 4K models.
 
If you look at the current wearables on the market today, the technology you're describing is simply not small enough to fit into something of reasonable size.

Using the Nike FuelBand as a measuring stick, how do you propose to add up to 10 additional sensors, an LCD display, a CPU capable of processing the data, and a battery to power it all in a device that is sized in a way sufficient enough to make it operate completely autonomously?

No one is arguing that the device won't be capable, but it will need the iPhone's processing power to make sense of all of the data that the sensors are collecting. Otherwise you may as well just duct tape an iPhone to your wrist.

Sensors... yes, but some sensors can be dual purpose, such as heart rate and blood pressure, as well as blood sugar (which, as my Dexcom CGM, would require a prescription, but since these sensors are non-intrusive, they may be for indicative use only), and the other 7 sensors.

As for CPU, that can easily fit on a fuelband type size. With high end chips in the 14nm lines, an ASIC (application Specific IC) can easily fit the bill for what it needs to do. If you open today's digital watch, you will see that very little real estate is taken up by the CPU, and those are on the 15-30 year old (1984 was 30 years ago!!!) IC age.

The point is, the whole back can be sensors, including the band, but the IC/Display can easily fit in the space of a common man's watch.

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Uh, Apple TV? I even remember reading about the different sizes and resolutions, including 4K models.

I'm still waiting for the iTV. I already have an Apple TV. Cute little black box by my Vizio TV.

;)

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*sigh* Another day another rumor. Let it be 9/9 already.

9/9... the rumored date?

:eek:
 
Omg

I think this might be possible. iPhone 6 and iWatch. This is going to be, I think, the BEST keynote ever. I'm dying to watch Tim Cook splash all over Samsung and their hideous 'Galaxy Wear' thing, that's heavier than an iMac...
 
Ok, I'll join in.

I'm cjbryce and I'm an analyst. The output of my analysis is that Apple will do something at some point in the future, whereupon some analysts will say "oh yes they will" and other analysts will say "oh no they won't"

My invoice for £10,000 to macrumors is now in the post. HTH?
 
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Can't one of these phones and/or watches walk out of Apple's headquarters and into Gizmodo's hands again? I'm ready to see the finished product.
 
that's a substantial part of the problem with "google glass." it comes right up against, "i don't want to wear glasses." the first response to a product name should not be a negative. It's far better to suggest what it enables, or to stake out a new brand identity altogether - "announcing, apple's all-new idinglehopper!"

fify

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Uh, Apple TV? I even remember reading about the different sizes and resolutions, including 4K models.

Right but it never got as frequent nor consistent nor detailed as what we're seeing for the iWatch.

The "full" Apple TV was and probably still is in the works. It just appears they readjusted their priorities, perhaps to wait for 4k prices to drop, and/or because the iWatch is key to its function and success.
 
You have literally zero knowledge as to the market of this, and no one else does either frankly. Just because you aren't imaginative, creative, or inventive, doesn't mean others aren't, and don't know how to change the world. This device is for biometric tracking, and if it has enough sensors and the accuracy is there, it is the start of something that will definitely change the world.

You apparently don't know that in the future there will be a lot of tech devoted to preventing disease, which is far better in every way than treating disease. This is the start, if done right.

Wow, I didn't know there was such an expert on me out there.

My point was expectations are way too high. You just proved that. If you think this device from Apple, a consumer electronics company is going to prevent disease then you are going to be very disappointed. Just like I said. It's just not that simple and anyone with a basic understanding of biology and medicine knows that.

This will not be the start of some 'sensor revolution'. It's already started. This is going to be a shiny money maker for Apple (hopefully). Apple would just be continuing something that's been in the making for years and will be evolved and advanced more thoroughly by others.
 
'They are, but they're not.

But maybe.

Battery issues

No, it's not coming.

Well, maybe, not this year.

Yes, 2015.

Wait, late 2014.

Hold on hold on, no

Maybe

Display issues

It's not coming due to issues

3 versions expected to come in 2014

Well, make it 2015

More issues, not coming soon.

It's coming with the iPhone 6, (maybe)

We're not sure'

Sums up the last few months.
:rolleyes:

Thanks for recap. Its crazy how analysts have been all over the board. I wonder how they retain the credibility when they are proven wrong
 
- I still can't wrap my mind around the concept of wearing a shiny "Apple" watch with a touchscreen on my wrist all day long. There's the risk of being depicted as 'cocky' , 'showing off' by some people who happen to see Apple products as social status provers. Then there's always the risk of theft. Besides; I don't wear watches, I mean at all. Don't know if I'l feel exactly comfortable with an iWatch although the health features seem to might get put to great use.
I also don't bother with watches, but I thought I'd point out that all these comments are true about regular watches, too. For most people, they are more status symbols than functional devices.
 
I think a lot of people are going to be highly disappointed at whatever Apple announces with regards to a wearable device. The market for this is not nearly that of the iPhone or iPad.

Just don't think an iWatch or whatever it is is going to be earth shattering. It may be useful but not life altering. The hype and expectations are cranked up way too high.

Pay attention to this. He knows.

Nothing at all.

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Apple would just be continuing something that's been in the making for years and will be evolved and advanced more thoroughly by others.

Because that's what Apple always does.

Uh-huh.
 
Wow, I didn't know there was such an expert on me out there.

My point was expectations are way too high. You just proved that. If you think this device from Apple, a consumer electronics company is going to prevent disease then you are going to be very disappointed. Just like I said. It's just not that simple and anyone with a basic understanding of biology and medicine knows that.

This will not be the start of some 'sensor revolution'. It's already started. This is going to be a shiny money maker for Apple (hopefully). Apple would just be continuing something that's been in the making for years and will be evolved and advanced more thoroughly by others.

It's already started? No. Lol.

Actually preventing many diseases is very simple. Proper nutrition can prevent numerous diseases. It's simple, getting people to do it is hard.
 
I don't know which, but I do believe the watch will either be announced with the iPhone 6 or not at all this year.

There won't be some second event a month later.

My guess...
Apple has seen some challenges (production, health care/regulatory related, etc.) preventing them form hitting their targeted "in time for the holiday shopping season" window. Since they can't deliver in mass until the new year, they will shift focus and look to adversely effect competition sales by demoing "the future" along side the phone announcement. We'll know more, shortly.
 
A few thoughts after reading the article:

1) I have more trust in the Re/Code gang than most of the other Apple pundits and all of the stock analysts.

2) If this comes to pass (and I have no basis to doubt Re/Code right now) color me genuinely surprised that Apple would let the watch share Day 0 publicity with completely updated iPhones. If it were me I'd want to spread the "innovation" though out the holiday "pre-season" to keep Apple front and center -- like a tech carpet bombing.

3) If they were going to do it in Oct and pushed it up, why? Is there something even more jaw dropping in Oct like "this changes everything" AppleTV? Another product that hasn't even been detected on the rumor radar? Or are the other products Apple was going to announce in Oct not ready so there will be no Oct even this year and Apple is forced to consolidate? (I think we are at the point where new OS X versions do not merit their own event unless accompanied by new product.)
 
Hhmm... Maybe this is why apple switched our incoming caller ID on the iPhone to just display a small circle pic of your contact? To get us ready for how it'll be displayed on the iWatch when receiving a incoming call from your iPhone.

PS,I know absolutely nothing and this is a total guess.
 
Another day, another article in the merry-go-round of: maybe/possibly/... delayed/constrained/... rendering/mockup/... yes/no ... this/next ... week/month/year ...

translation: we still have no flipping idea, no concrete info, no confirmation ... but we've got to keep posting!
 
Pay attention to this. He knows.

Nothing at all.

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Because that's what Apple always does.

Uh-huh.

All good points. Excellent and well considered counterpoints :rolleyes:

It's already started? No. Lol.

Actually preventing many diseases is very simple. Proper nutrition can prevent numerous diseases. It's simple, getting people to do it is hard.

Yes, with proper nutrition all disease can be prevented and the iWatch announced in a couple of weeks will deliver all this. Now all us Apple buyers will not only be cool, we'll live longer. Oh please.

How many examples of people who eat right and exercise yet die early are there? As an Apple fan you should know of one high profile example.

When medicine has barely scratched the surface of understanding the etiology of disease how is the iWatch and it's monitoring of vital signs going to do a darned thing? Is it going to measure epigenetic changes to pancreatic cells? Is it going to detect the first signs of amyloid deposition in neurons? No. And even if it could what would anyone do with that information?

That's my only point, that the device announced this year has too much hype associated with it and expectations are too high. Thus it's bound to disappoint.
 
A few thoughts after reading the article:



1) I have more trust in the Re/Code gang than most of the other Apple pundits and all of the stock analysts.



2) If this comes to pass (and I have no basis to doubt Re/Code right now) color me genuinely surprised that Apple would let the watch share Day 0 publicity with completely updated iPhones. If it were me I'd want to spread the "innovation" though out the holiday "pre-season" to keep Apple front and center -- like a tech carpet bombing.



3) If they were going to do it in Oct and pushed it up, why? Is there something even more jaw dropping in Oct like "this changes everything" AppleTV? Another product that hasn't even been detected on the rumor radar? Or are the other products Apple was going to announce in Oct not ready so there will be no Oct even this year and Apple is forced to consolidate? (I think we are at the point where new OS X versions do not merit their own event unless accompanied by new product.)


I see your point and agree partially. It's just that apple events are so huge these days. No matter what they release it's news.
They could release the phone plus the watch and every media outlet will cover them as if it was the Super Bowl. Lol,
Discussing what's new about the iPhone and how it works with the new iWatch.

I guess we'll find out what apple does once they take the stage. :)
 
An iPhone isn't just a phone. An iWatch won't be just a watch. The big market will be for what else it does.

The difference is that people who by expensive watches buy them for style and keep them for YEARS. I'm not a daily watch wearer but still have three that I have had for 10+ years. Or they buy cheap watches every couple of years. Moving to a paradigm where it is now possibly a $300 tech device that technologically you will, or at least Apple will, want you to update/replace every two years is a huge change. Again I'm interested in seeing what they come up with, but if it is just a watch that really doesn't do anything more or significantly better than the iPhone I already carry everywhere - i don't see the big market many are predicting.
 
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