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Apple to Unveil Wearable Device on September 9 Alongside iPhone 6

adrianlealmtz said:
I think this might be possible. iPhone 6 and iWatch. This is going to be, I think, the BEST keynote ever. I'm dying to watch Tim Cook splash all over Samsung and their hideous 'Galaxy Wear' thing, that's heavier than an iMac...
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oh i hope Tim Cook keeps his mouth shut as much as possible and lets someone else do the presentation again. he is the worst and slowest public speaker i have ever heard.

"we haaaaaave some increeeeeedibleeeee ... pause ... things to show uuuuuuuuu ... pause ... tonight"
 
ValSalva said:
All good points. Excellent and well considered counterpoints :rolleyes:



Yes, with proper nutrition all disease can be prevented and the iWatch announced in a couple of weeks will deliver all this. Now all us Apple buyers will not only be cool, we'll live longer. Oh please.

How many examples of people who eat right and exercise yet die early are there? As an Apple fan you should know of one high profile example.

When medicine has barely scratched the surface of understanding the etiology of disease how is the iWatch and it's monitoring of vital signs going to do a darned thing? Is it going to measure epigenetic changes to pancreatic cells? Is it going to detect the first signs of amyloid deposition in neurons? No. And even if it could what would anyone do with that information?

That's my only point, that the device announced this year has too much hype associated with it and expectations are too high. Thus it's bound to disappoint.
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We'll I'm sorry but you're ignorant as to disease related to nutrition. Human nutrition (i.e. what we put into our bodies for sustaining life) plays more of a role than anything else. Metabolic syndrome and it's related diseases which are all caused by poor diet can be so greatly reduced it's hard to even fathom. Diabetes and obesity have been climbing steadily and steeply for the past 30 years in the US, and that's due to the typical western diet which is full of highly processed carbohydrate ridden foods. Simply put, humans weren't designed to eat these things. Evolution certainly won't be catching up anytime soon, either. Exercise has been shown to do very little for most diseases, and yes it has many benefits, but an intelligent person would have to assume what you physically put into your body by consuming, has a far far greater impact on your health.

I never said the iWatch will do anything directly, it's what the iWatch represents for the future, which is a future where many diseases are prevented or treated before becoming a problem due to constant biometric monitoring through new technologies.
 
rwilliams said:
Can't one of these phones and/or watches walk out of Apple's headquarters and into Gizmodo's hands again? I'm ready to see the finished product.
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Aren’t the factory leaks good enough? They were spot on last year leading to a boring announcement. This year I would like to be genuinely surprised.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
A few thoughts after reading the article:

1) I have more trust in the Re/Code gang than most of the other Apple pundits and all of the stock analysts.

2) If this comes to pass (and I have no basis to doubt Re/Code right now) color me genuinely surprised that Apple would let the watch share Day 0 publicity with completely updated iPhones. If it were me I'd want to spread the "innovation" though out the holiday "pre-season" to keep Apple front and center -- like a tech carpet bombing.

3) If they were going to do it in Oct and pushed it up, why? Is there something even more jaw dropping in Oct like "this changes everything" AppleTV? Another product that hasn't even been detected on the rumor radar? Or are the other products Apple was going to announce in Oct not ready so there will be no Oct even this year and Apple is forced to consolidate? (I think we are at the point where new OS X versions do not merit their own event unless accompanied by new product.)
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I don't much trust anyone's speculation on the watch because of how many times hey said it would be delayed. However, it isn't too fantastic that they might announce the device now, as a "One More Thing" type deal, and roll it out later in the year, similar to the OG iPhone. In fact, that might make a lot more sense if they are also experiencing pipeline issues with it, but have it's design and features pinned down.

That doesn't really satisfy *Why*, though... unless they have another gamechanger in October, like you mention.

I agree re: No keynote w/o products, but I'm pretty sure Apple is going to release Yosemite and iOS 8 with the new iPhone, (since so many rich features of iOS/Yosemite require each other, and iOS 8 would most likely ship with the new iPhone). So, that would leave the usual iPad + iPod line to October, potentially with a new Mac Mini thrown in.

Seems about right to me.
 
azentropy said:
The difference is that people who by expensive watches buy them for style and keep them for YEARS. I'm not a daily watch wearer but still have three that I have had for 10+ years. Or they buy cheap watches every couple of years. Moving to a paradigm where it is now possibly a $300 tech device that technologically you will, or at least Apple will, want you to update/replace every two years is a huge change. Again I'm interested in seeing what they come up with, but if it is just a watch that really doesn't do anything more or significantly better than the iPhone I already carry everywhere - i don't see the big market many are predicting.
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Biometrics. Not a watch.
 
mainmac said:
And WSJ's source is the cafeteria lady that works at Apple...
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She's very reliable.

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Virtuous33 said:
We'll I'm sorry but you're ignorant as to disease related to nutrition. Human nutrition (i.e. what we put into our bodies for sustaining life) plays more of a role than anything else. Metabolic syndrome and it's related diseases which are all caused by poor diet can be so greatly reduced it's hard to even fathom. Diabetes and obesity have been climbing steadily and steeply for the past 30 years in the US, and that's due to the typical western diet which is full of highly processed carbohydrate ridden foods. Simply put, humans weren't designed to eat these things. Evolution certainly won't be catching up anytime soon, either. Exercise has been shown to do very little for most diseases, and yes it has many benefits, but an intelligent person would have to assume what you physically put into your body by consuming, has a far far greater impact on your health.

I never said the iWatch will do anything directly, it's what the iWatch represents for the future, which is a future where many diseases are prevented or treated before becoming a problem due to constant biometric monitoring through new technologies.
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I think it might be to answer the "Apple isn't innovating" rumors.

The first iPhone was announced 6 months before it was available for purchase. They could absolutely pull the "one more thing" deal with the iWatch and have people talking for half the year and NOT buying products from anyone else while they get revved up for release.

Who knows?
 
kdarling said:
Yeah, I keep thinking about Cook talking about how they'd need a way to get people to wear whatever it is.

What if it's a range of digital jewelry, with different kinds of sensors in each piece.

Watch, bracelets, earrings, necklace, belt and so forth.
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How about underwear? We all use it...
 
bushido said:
oh i hope Tim Cook keeps his mouth shut as much as possible and lets someone else do the presentation again. he is the worst and slowest public speaker i have ever heard.

"we haaaaaave some increeeeeedibleeeee ... pause ... things to show uuuuuuuuu ... pause ... tonight"
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He is definitely not the worst......but that aside, I look at it another way. I see this as a good opportunity for Tim to put his final stamp on Apple. This is his chance to show some passion, and deliver us a "Can't innovate my ass" type attitude. A "F#$% you analysts, critics, armchair engineers, I told you new things were coming" type attitude, assuming of course the new product actually delivers.
 
Virtuous33 said:
We'll I'm sorry but you're ignorant as to disease related to nutrition. Human nutrition (i.e. what we put into our bodies for sustaining life) plays more of a role than anything else. Metabolic syndrome and it's related diseases which are all caused by poor diet can be so greatly reduced it's hard to even fathom. Diabetes and obesity have been climbing steadily and steeply for the past 30 years in the US, and that's due to the typical western diet which is full of highly processed carbohydrate ridden foods. Simply put, humans weren't designed to eat these things. Evolution certainly won't be catching up anytime soon, either. Exercise has been shown to do very little for most diseases, and yes it has many benefits, but an intelligent person would have to assume what you physically put into your body by consuming, has a far far greater impact on your health.

I never said the iWatch will do anything directly, it's what the iWatch represents for the future, which is a future where many diseases are prevented or treated before becoming a problem due to constant biometric monitoring through new technologies.
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Wow. Exercise, even modest exercise has immense benefits to health, probably more than anything else. That's medicine 101. The benefits of exercise are scientifically well proven and do more to prevent practically every disease known. Sheesh :eek: It's hard to take anything you say seriously if you are that ignorant about medicine/health.
 
GuitarDTO said:
He is definitely not the worst......but that aside, I look at it another way. I see this as a good opportunity for Tim to put his final stamp on Apple. This is his chance to show some passion, and deliver us a "Can't innovate my ass" type attitude. A "F#$% you analysts, critics, armchair engineers, I told you new things were coming" type attitude, assuming of course the new product actually delivers.
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I think Tim should announce the iWatch himself, it's a product he has probably been involved with. Don't forget Tim has said new product categories are coming, and he also said before the end of this year. The iWatch would tie in well with the iPhone 6.
 
GuitarDTO said:
He is definitely not the worst......but that aside, I look at it another way. I see this as a good opportunity for Tim to put his final stamp on Apple. This is his chance to show some passion, and deliver us a "Can't innovate my ass" type attitude. A "F#$% you analysts, critics, armchair engineers, I told you new things were coming" type attitude, assuming of course the new product actually delivers.
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Nope, Tim should continue being himself otherwise it's going to be very awkward.

Personally I have nagging feeling that the watch is going to have less material impact than some think. It's going to be more like the Apple TV or Apple hifi than iPhone. I hope I'm wrong.
 
New iPhones and iPods. One will be an iPod nano with biometrics built in that you wear on your wrist. That's it. Heard it here first.:D
 
ValSalva said:
Wow. Exercise, even modest exercise has immense benefits to health, probably more than anything else. That's medicine 101. The benefits of exercise are scientifically well proven and do more to prevent practically every disease known. Sheesh :eek: It's hard to take anything you say seriously if you are that ignorant about medicine/health.
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Nope you're ignorant I'm sorry. I already said it has many benefits, it's just not something that prevents a lot of disease. Scientific fact. You eat terribly and exercise all you want, you won't lose much weight at all. Go try it ;)
 
omenatarhuri said:
Nope, Tim should continue being himself otherwise it's going to be very awkward.

Personally I have nagging feeling that the watch is going to have less material impact than some think. It's going to be more like the Apple TV or Apple hifi than iPhone. I hope I'm wrong.
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You may be right, the iWatch may begin as a hobby product like the Apple TV did. Maybe it's just going to be a fitness tracking device, counting steps and interacting with the iPhone.
 
ValSalva said:
Wow. Exercise, even modest exercise has immense benefits to health, probably more than anything else. That's medicine 101. The benefits of exercise are scientifically well proven and do more to prevent practically every disease known. Sheesh :eek: It's hard to take anything you say seriously if you are that ignorant about medicine/health.
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I think he's saying that if you exercise a lot, and then feed yourself with McDonald's and all that crap (as I sometime see), then exercise carries little weight toward overall health. Nutrition is #1, that's why all the athletes eat very specific foods, at specific times, with specific nutritional values.
 
yaxomoxay said:
I think he's saying that if you exercise a lot, and then feed yourself with McDonald's and all that crap (as I sometime see), then exercise carries little weight toward overall health. Nutrition is #1, that's why all the athletes eat very specific foods, at specific times, with specific nutritional values.
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Precisely. Nutrition is at least 80% of the equation. That's for weight loss, muscle gain, prevention of disease... all of it. At least 80%. What you put into your body.
 
If its a companion device then I see it released at the same time.

If the watch needs to the phone to run to its maximum potential then it makes sense for a dual release.

Bluetooth maybe enough for comms paring. Considering if all devices will have the 'left over' feature I don't think it even needs to have Wi-Fi.

Time will tell... literally.
 
Does Apple usually buy url's before a product announcement?

I'm surprised that Iwatch.com is already purchased.

Unless if they decide to use a different name
 
A smart watch is so 2013... I thought we had established that it's not necessary and doesn't provide much... I'm not going to lie I would love to see Apple show me that I'm wrong.

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Virtuous33 said:
Precisely. Nutrition is at least 80% of the equation. That's for weight loss, muscle gain, prevention of disease... all of it. At least 80%. What you put into your body.
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Nutrition is 80%... I think that number is exaggerated lets face it you aren't going to get health or be physically fit without exercise no matter how healthy you eat. People are looking for an easier answer than actually putting in the work. In reality its probably more likely that nutrition is 60% of being physically fit vs the 80% that people are claiming.

I have naturally big muscles but thats from working out and diet equally.
 
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