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I thought Apple were against USB3 in favour of Thunderbolt? If they're not, then why the hell haven't Macs had USB3 up until now? It's been around for at least three years for goodness sake.

...but, until now, it hasn't been built into Intel's mobile chipsets. They'd have had to incorporate a USB3 controller chip on the main board. That's an issue with the smaller MacBooks and it would be unlike Apple to introduce a new interface unless they could rapidly roll it out across most of the range (as happened with Thunderbolt). I also suspect that, if USB3 comes in, FireWire will go out.

I do think Apple are lukewarm on USB3, but now it "comes free" with the Ivy Bridge chipset they'd have to be pretty stubborn not to include it. OTOH I wouldn't bet more than I could afford to use on Apple not being that stubborn!

Thunderbolt isn't really a competitor for USB3 - its more expensive to implement and requires expensive active cabling. I don't ever see people plugging thumb-drives or mice into Thunderbolt. What it does do is enable forms of expansion which wouldn't be possible with USB3... E.g. the Apple Thunderbolt display with Firewire, GB Ethernet, 3xUSB, sound, webcam and multiple displays all through one wire and performing as if they were on the computer's PCIe bus (you could attach all those things via USB3, but the USB3 port would be a bottleneck).

However, Apple needs to do something to galvanise the Thunderbolt market - a few very-high-end RAID drives, specialist video add-ons, plus two vapourware docking stations with a miserly selection of ports won't do it.

Prediction: the most common use of Thunderbolt in the next year will be to add USB3 ports to 2011 Macs.
 
This has to be their best kept secret in a while. We haven't seen ANY leaks for ANY of these Macs (at least to the best of my knowledge. please if there were leaks show me :))

You mean you missed the home button for the iMac and the ribbon cable for the mini?
 
In the past the Mac Pro has always been updated with chips that aren't available to anyone else yet, so if it isn't updated then hopefully it's just delaying a little longer till the next Xeon update comes out.

This is in correct. In 2006 they waited for WWDC - 8 weeks after Xeons were released (and came quickly to the market). They had the 3GHz quad-core parts for the 2007 Mac Pro before others, but had waited 5 months to sell 8-core systems. In 2008 they were 6 weeks after launch, but were the only one shipping with the higher end workstation processors for a month while others used the ones aimed more for servers in that time. In 2009 they launched a month before Intel's announcement, others launched on the announcement date. In 2010 they waited 5 months - about 4 and a half months after everyone else had systems using the Westmere Xeons that are found in the current Mac Pros.

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What is different with Intel's launch this time is that all the major workstation vendors waited. HP and Lenovo only started shipping at the end of May, Dell have ship dates of the end of July for their Precision systems and only recently announced them. Fujitsu, despite leaking their product line before Intel's launch date, aren't shipping workstations through their own store at the moment. There is plenty of other evidence that points to Intel struggling to supply enough CPUs and chipsets to meet demand and it is perfectly possible Apple have waited for their own reasons - software/drivers/clearing old inventory - or to get better discounts if Intel are annoying partners. I would very much doubt they are waiting for the next line of Xeons, as these probably won't come until 2013. Sadly for users Apple does not need to rush it's launches.
 
here are my speculations on all this

1. i figure they will go all out, hence perfect time to introduce mountain lion
and (introduction is not the same as a release for those who don't know)
2. i suspect at least three macs to be updated if not all, cause alot of them are out of date
3. in terms of macbook pro the display is fine as is has anyone ever had a problem with the display? i know people want better but has anyone ever had a major issue with the display, unlikely,
i would prefer quad core over retina anyday, retina doesn't do much, so you can see a bit clearer who cares i prefer performance, although i suspect the 13' won't get quad core, maybe on the high end 13' im hoping for that miracle
I'd be happy without a cd drive and anyone who wants old tech feel free to use adaptors
4. they will definately use usb 3.0 think about it how else will you charge your ipod, ipad and other apple devices, so you figure they must at least still use usb 3.0 but then the macbooks won't be so special anymore since most new laptops at those prices have at least 1 usb 3.0, so im definately counting on usb 3.0
dual thunderbolt ports, i doubt it if thunderbolt is as fast as it claims 1 should be sufice, plus im sure those use speed ports would add to the price, im pretty confident they will only have 1
5. in terms of release remeber usually there are pics and shipment dates floating around the net when they are released, maybe they will be announced but not released, i figure July to be a safe bet, introduced in June released in July hopefully with mountain lion installed on it
6. also i hope they still have bootcamp support with ML, thats it, any comments or rebuttles feel free to post
 
4 things

1. 15inch MBA (MBPs get discontinued)
2. Retina displays for all MBAs
3. Updated Mac Pro
4. Updated iMac

(the thing I'd most like would be retina in the cinema display, but I don't imagine it's possible yet)
 
1. 15inch MBA (MBPs get discontinued)
2. Retina displays for all MBAs
3. Updated Mac Pro
4. Updated iMac

(the thing I'd most like would be retina in the cinema display, but I don't imagine it's possible yet)
Why would they kill off the MBPs?
 
1. 15inch MBA (MBPs get discontinued)
2. Retina displays for all MBAs
3. Updated Mac Pro
4. Updated iMac

(the thing I'd most like would be retina in the cinema display, but I don't imagine it's possible yet)

I strongly disagree with discontinuing the MBPs, What about the mobile pro user? MBAs still arent strong enough to replace MBPs.
 
Couldn't these hardware updates be a "one more thing" briefly talked about at the end of the keynote? It's not like Apple has never introduced hardware at WWDC before. My guess is Mountain Lion, iOS and new Macs will fill out the keynote. And I could see something related to Apple TV getting it's own special event later in the year.
 
Even thought I don't own a Mac Pro, and probably never will (my first Apple desktop will be an iMac), I seriously hope they update it... can't imagine how annoying it must be for the people who use them for work and stuff!

And even though I won't be getting a new Mac for at least another three years (unless it breaks...), this is so exciting!

One of the things I love about Apple is that I get excited about products I don't own, and definitely won't own in the near future :D
 
No, no , no. What Apple will do is buy Facebook. Tim Cook would move to COO and Mark Z would focus on products as the 21 st century heir to Steve Jobs. Together Apple-Facebook will be unbeatable. Mark Z is the new Steve Jobs ( whether starting in a garage or dorm room). Apple know this as Tim Cook is not a creative person - he is a dour, intelligent businessman. Apple need more than Ive who is full of self importance and cant do what Mark Z can.

Is this tongue in cheek or are you serious? You write it so matter-of-fact I'm unsure. Brilliant if it's a joke. Puzzling otherwise since FB, the business, is a mess right now w/ Zuck and Cook has been the defacto day-to-day boss at Apple for many year.

Apple won't' be the same w/o Jobs, for sure, but if Cook is no Jobs, Zuck surely is not either. If Zuck were Jobs he'd already be working on "the next big thing" or trying to take FB to the next level. But as we see he's having trouble making FB profitable w/ mobile, and it very well could become the next MySpace. At least now, Zuck looks like a one platform wonder. If anything he's the next Michael Dell or Rick Synder (Co-Founder of Gateway Computer).
 
Couldn't these hardware updates be a "one more thing" briefly talked about at the end of the keynote? It's not like Apple has never introduced hardware at WWDC before. My guess is Mountain Lion, iOS and new Macs will fill out the keynote. And I could see something related to Apple TV getting it's own special event later in the year.

My guess is that it'll be like WWDC09. Sale figures, stats and then boom, new Macs. Then OS X Mountain Lion and then iOS 6.
 
Same here

This is probably the most excited I have ever been for an Apple announcement.

Same here,
I'm too excited to get an iMac. I use both Windows(since 95,98,me,xp,vista,7RC,7) & Mac(L,SL,Lion), this is first time i'm not much excited about windows8 as i have used the beta version and i didn't like their implementaion of tablet OS in windows, I'll stick to windows7 in office but will get iMac (ML) for home.
 
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