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Apple to Wait Until at Least 2020 to Release 5G iPhones
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How about the next iPhone improvement be:
Keep it exactly the same and knock $200 off the price?
No R&D budget, no re-tooling the production line, and massive consumer approval.
Keep it exactly the same and knock $200 off the price?
No R&D budget, no re-tooling the production line, and massive consumer approval.
Everyone bemoaning the lack of 5g support until 2020 need to look at the current 5g coverage map for the USA. It will improve in 2019 of course, but you aren't going to see widespread coverage until late 2020 or 2021 I suspect. So this is a non issue for now.
Apple already sells the iPhone 7, 7 plus, 8, and 8 plus at a discount.
I’d love to see that map used on a Verizon commercial. With more 5g than any other carrier in the country!
Next iPhone will still be the latest iPhone up until the late 2020. And people now tend to keep the phones for 3..4 years so those who buy next iPhone won't get 5G benefits until 2022/2023.
Let me introduce you to the rest of the world - it may be shocking to you - but there are many countries outside of the u.s border, which quite a few, have far more advanced cell networks than the country marked "United States".
1. It’s Bloomberg. Of “implant conspiracy theories we can’t prove” fame. I assume their motto is something along the lines of “shorting Apple stock since 2001”
2. 5G is not necessarily faster than 4G. Whilst there is a lot of amazing stuff in the standard , it also allows for a lot of cases it’s just a marketing name slapped on top of existing 4G tech like LTE Advanced (which is already approaching 100 Mbps on some carrier networks) Just like 4G networks in some countries were slower than the 3G networks .
3. Did I mention the marketing hype around 5G yet ?
4. Very few carriers will have widespread 5G coverage in 2019, let alone widespread 5G coverage that’s actually faster than 4G.
5. Most people don’t care what the marketing brand name of how their phone uses its radios, and those that do frequently put Type R stickers on their cars.
6. This is the old school carrier marketing ploy of “you have to buy a shiner new phone to work on our shines new network”. Is Bloomberg prepared to disclose which carriers it’s done a deal with ?
2. 5G is not necessarily faster than 4G. Whilst there is a lot of amazing stuff in the standard , it also allows for a lot of cases it’s just a marketing name slapped on top of existing 4G tech like LTE Advanced (which is already approaching 100 Mbps on some carrier networks) Just like 4G networks in some countries were slower than the 3G networks .
3. Did I mention the marketing hype around 5G yet ?
4. Very few carriers will have widespread 5G coverage in 2019, let alone widespread 5G coverage that’s actually faster than 4G.
5. Most people don’t care what the marketing brand name of how their phone uses its radios, and those that do frequently put Type R stickers on their cars.
6. This is the old school carrier marketing ploy of “you have to buy a shiner new phone to work on our shines new network”. Is Bloomberg prepared to disclose which carriers it’s done a deal with ?
Tru dat. I’m feeling that there’s really no need to upgrade from my iPhone X anytime soon. Was really hoping for an SE2, but seems like those plans are dead. Maybe I’ll actualy go over 2 years without an upgrade ... 3 years if the X will hold out that long, and a smaller version iPhone isn’t introduced.
Given the history (Apple was at least a year behind everybody with LTE) this rumor is hard not to believe. Whatever your arguments, they would be relevant only if Apple was not going to use 5G ever. But they will and it means that next year's iPhone model will be outdated from the get go. Unless you are suggesting that it is ok to succumb to the "old school carrier marketing ploy" in 2020 but not in 2019.
........more than fast enough for anything a phone would need YOU to do,
I use my phone a lot for hotspot and as a mobile electrical engineer it means my 'office' goes with me. I can download firmware upgrades for my equipment, tech manuals and images, at the same time as other net related activities like emails, Safari and Dropbox syncing.
So, lies and more lies?
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I doubt you’re actually even getting LTE speeds on your phone, few people are.
Anyone who knows Apple, surely knows Apple is NEVER the first to the party. They want to wait out the kinks and issues, and wait til it’s widely available. Apple only adopts technology that will be beneficial to the user experience.
So you can’t fault them for waiting another year.
It’s an issue for those who live and breath spec sheets. It doesn't matter to these types if the technology is ready or not. It’s ALL about bragging rights and chest thumping. Anything to hit Apple users over the head with. This has been going on for decades with the “Android had that two years ago” mentality. It hasn’t stopped Apple one iota from becoming the dominant technology company that everyone else looks to for what’s coming next.
You mean, like Android users enjoying OLED screens for many years while Apple customers had to live with inferior LCD screens? Those same Apple customers have embraced OLED as quickly as it became available on iPhones and now they are even laughing at their XR counterparts. It looks like you are subscribing to the Apple fan mentality where the technology can't be good if it is not used by Apple.
You mean how apple screens were deemed to be the most accurate on the planet?
As far as “those same customers” have embraced oled, do you really know this or you’re throwing out a straw-man!"How must have is 5G?" None whatsoever in 2020.
This has been another episode of simple answers to easy questions.
The ONLY people talking up the super-duper-importance of 5G are people who are selling it. This is NOTHING LIKE the WCDMA and LTE transitions because those reflected real pain -- everyday people constantly experienced real slowness that they noticed. That's gone now, except for very specialized situations.
You can see this by looking at what geeks track. Back in the day I and my friends were EXTREMELY interested in every successive draft of specs from 3GPP. We knew when each spec was due, what would be added to it, and when that would be implemented in hardware. And we were not alone; this stuff was discussed widely amongst the tech geeks on the internet. Not any more. You have to be a real specialist these days, not someone generically interested in tech, to care about 5G.
You can tell the difference --- ask whoever is ranting to you about how 5G is the most important thing ever ANY sort of technical questions about it: what's different in the underlying radio technology compared to LTE? Does it make SON compulsory? How much higher is the spectral efficiency? ... Chances are they won't have a clue. Because the geeks, who would be learning that stuff in the past don't care (the tech world is big and there are higher priority items to learn about), so it's the clueless idiots, having listened to the marketing, who are making all the noise this time round.
Color accuracy is just one parameter. The screen without a black color and mediocre contrast is always an inferior screen no matter how color accurate it is.You mean how apple screens were deemed to be the most accurate on the planet?
Yeas you will, if ypur goal is to use more data continuesly, by what if you use the same amount of data butinsted of the tranciever in your phone beeong active for lars say 15 second on 4Gbow pecause of increced dowlink/uplink speed and eeduced latency only is active for 5 seconds, hey ptesto yor batery is les taxed ans you can transfer more data berween charges. Ok you might get tast much more batery life but when you have only a few percent left evry little helps. See what I did there turned the rather tiered «I’ll consume my data plan even faster» meem to somerhing positive. Personaly I try doing this with one slightly negative thing per day, has it made my life drasticly etter? No, but it certanly has not made it any worse, and I feel somwat less grumpy. But pardon me for this ot rant, I just find it kind of sad that the reaction above seems to be allmost the first a lot of people (esphere on mr and safly modt texh fora) get when a speedbost for mobile data is mentipned. Come to think of it, it might also be my usage pattern when it comes to mobile data, as I have an uncapped ftth connection at home and wifi where I work/hang out, mobile data usage limits it self to tome killing on the daly commute witch is usualy light serfing and sometimes a bit of net radio.
Some of us would rather have the mediocrity of LCD, everything is a trade off.
My original point is how you constructed a straw-man argument designed to suggest the same exact people who poo-pooed oled and rah-rahed LCD are now jumping on the oled bandwagon and poo-pooing LCD.
Apple have always behaved this way. And it’s a good thing! Let the others test the waters before implementing a feature. More than happy to wait. 1 extra year on 4G isn’t a big deal.