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Apple to Wait Until at Least 2020 to Release 5G iPhones
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Clearly someone reckons there are millions of folk out there just waiting to spend $£€¥ zillions on 5G contracts so they can... do what exactly? Stream Netflix movies, play multiplayer games while on the train / bus etc?
I’m reminded of the huge technology push to get on-demand in-flight entertainment working and yet the number of folks (in economy at least) that would rather sleep than watch crap seem not to be that interested.
Will the same be true of 5G I wonder? My 4G tariff £9 pm for 2GB of Data is not going to go very far re streaming a movie and 5G is going to cost £€$¥ zillions pm more...
I’m reminded of the huge technology push to get on-demand in-flight entertainment working and yet the number of folks (in economy at least) that would rather sleep than watch crap seem not to be that interested.
Will the same be true of 5G I wonder? My 4G tariff £9 pm for 2GB of Data is not going to go very far re streaming a movie and 5G is going to cost £€$¥ zillions pm more...
I can already stream video at 1080p. What more do I need to do on my phone?
I wish folks understood that 5G is by far, mainly meant to be wireless broadband for home use or mobile deployment. It really won't make that much of a difference for cell phone users.
Of course we're upset--3G isn't what it used to be, and we aren't imagining it. Hell, I remember when you could stream music over Edge.
Here's a 'full bars' VZW 3G speed test I just did. The 3G network is a joke now.
Sorry, but no, it's not being spoiled to point out when the services we pay for (almost $400/month for my five phones) aren't working as advertised.
Plus, I'm almost never not on a wifi network, and will there by 5G coverage when I'm out in the boonies? I dunno, I think I'd rather stick with a network that will give me SOME coverage when I'm in a more remote location, than I faster network when I'm in a wifi area anyway.
That's not really up to them when they're choosing to position themselves in a larger marketplace to compete with wired/home ISPs in addition to their old competition. There's no way they'll get away with soft caps at 22GB for more than I pay for 2TB of data via other providers.
Remember when text messaging was a separate charge of $20/month and they tried doing away with any form of unlimited data? All it takes is one or two providers to buck the trend in order to sign up new users and the rest of them are pretty much forced to compete as well.
The carriers went from charging for minutes to charging for data. They stopped subsidizing phones and adding the price to the monthly bill. Customers are not getting more for less, however.
That's Verizon's 3g which is using ancient cdma tech.
Here is what I got with tmobile's 3g, well 3.75G.
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[doublepost=1543863855][/doublepost]Great a 2K IPhone by 2020 with 5G. Can't wait.
Apple won't release an iPhone that can connect to 5G data networks until at least 2020, claims a new report out today.
According to Bloomberg's sources, Apple is planning to delay its support for the next generation of high-speed mobile services coming in 2019, just as it did for previous generations.
According to Bloomberg, Apple delayed support for previous mobile network upgrades because it accurately predicted that the first versions of rival smartphones would suffer from problems like poor coverage.
However, 5G advocates argue that delaying support for the upcoming network upgrade is a bigger risk for Apple, since it represents a much bigger speed boost over previous generations, making the leap from 4G to 5G significant enough to become a major selling point for new devices.
5G advocates believe the danger for Apple is that it will be left behind by rivals like Samsung, who could exploit the delay and attract more consumers to its Galaxy smartphones, which are expected to support 5G networks next year. Likewise, Chinese mobile makers Oppo and Huawei have also signaled that they plan to offer 5G phones.
Bloomberg suggests that Apple's decision to wait another year before supporting 5G could be related to the company's feud with Qualcomm, a leader in 5G-enabled chips, and it's partnership instead with Intel, which won't have 5G chips ready in time for 2019 phones.
Rumors late last year suggested Intel and Apple were already working on 5G chip technology for future iPhone devices. Intel is said to have thousands of people working on 5G tech to catch up with Qualcomm and win Apple's 5G modem contract.
Huawei and Samsung have the manufacturing infrastructure to build 5G modems, but Apple is said to be unlikely to use chips from its smartphone rivals, who could struggle to produce adequate supplies for the iPhone's huge volumes anyway.
Whatever the reason behind the delay, some analysts believe Apple's decision could have an impact on its iPhone customer base.
"Apple has always been a laggard in cellular technology," said Mark Hung, an analyst at Gartner who spoke to Bloomberg. "They weren't impacted in the past, but 5G is going to be much easier to market. But if they wait beyond 2020, then I think they'll be impacted."
Article Link: Apple to Wait Until at Least 2020 to Release 5G iPhones
The current iPhones barely support 4G until Apple come out with a fix.
I'm not entirely sure why people are acting like this is such a huge deal? If the iPhone's don't get 5G modems until 2020 that just means that next years models won't be getting it. It's not like it's forever until 2020. 2019 is just around the corner, did people really expect 5G modems to be in the 2019 lineup when even smaller volumes from Chinese companies and Samsung is not expect to arrive until mid-2019?
All the rumours points at a special 5G edition of the Samsung Galaxy S10 to be release months after the initial Galaxy S10 models. Most likely around June-July. It's not like you will see 5G in huge volumes until late-2019 at the earliest which is after the 2019 iPhone release so what did anyone expect?
And considering the volume Apple is pushing compared to pretty much anyone else in the market, did you really think Apple would be the first one to go with this? What countries and carries will even have any meaningful 5G availability in their networks by Sept. 2019 when the 2019 iPhone's are launched?
What are the benefits for cellular phones like the iPhone to begin with? Sure you have potential for lower latency and higher throughputs but it's not like 4G/LTE doesn't provide good enough already for existing users and use. Why the rush?
All the rumours points at a special 5G edition of the Samsung Galaxy S10 to be release months after the initial Galaxy S10 models. Most likely around June-July. It's not like you will see 5G in huge volumes until late-2019 at the earliest which is after the 2019 iPhone release so what did anyone expect?
And considering the volume Apple is pushing compared to pretty much anyone else in the market, did you really think Apple would be the first one to go with this? What countries and carries will even have any meaningful 5G availability in their networks by Sept. 2019 when the 2019 iPhone's are launched?
What are the benefits for cellular phones like the iPhone to begin with? Sure you have potential for lower latency and higher throughputs but it's not like 4G/LTE doesn't provide good enough already for existing users and use. Why the rush?
I haven't read all the comments but most users here are dismissing the elephant in the room.
Apple is not in a position of choosing to launch a 5G phone at the same time other phone manufacturers are launching their 5G phones.
Apple has no choice but to wait a little longer taking in consideration that Intel is at least 1 year behind Samsung, Huawei or Quacomm when it comes to 5G modems. They are actually waiting for Intel to make a viable 5G modem.
Apple is not in a position of choosing to launch a 5G phone at the same time other phone manufacturers are launching their 5G phones.
Apple has no choice but to wait a little longer taking in consideration that Intel is at least 1 year behind Samsung, Huawei or Quacomm when it comes to 5G modems. They are actually waiting for Intel to make a viable 5G modem.
"We will sell no 5G iPhones before its time." Famous Apple quote stolen from Paul Masson Winery. Apple should take its time with this new mobile broadband tech. iPhone users certainly don't need any tech that's going to drastically cut into battery life. I know 5G will get here eventually, but I'm in no rush for it and I don't see why most users would be, either. Yes, there will be major bragging rights for all the Android smartphone manufacturers who will be selling 5G smartphones next year, but almost no one in the U.S. will be able to take advantage of it without widespread 5G infrastructure and it will probably cost quite a bit to use. Motorola already offers a potential 5G smartphone that only requires a software upgrade to get it working. Now that's fast moving. All the Apple critics will be saying how Apple won't be able to sell more iPhones because they're falling behind Android smartphones in innovation. That's how it always plays out. Apple will look like the tech laggard.
