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Apple Transitioning Macs to Custom Chips With 'Incredible' Performance Starting Later This Year
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They aren’t designed for low power consumption, they are designed to be as efficient as possible with the energy they get. This doesn’t mean they can’t be more powerful or consume more energy, it just means they use the little energy they get very well. Wether or not this will be scalable so they will gain more performance is a fair question but I don’t see why it would not. If we free those processors of their energy and heat restrictions, we could grow us some real power houses.
Also, you have to realize that more efficiency means less heat. Mobile devices *love* that. MacBooks’ performance are currently pretty much limited by the heat they would create which they have a hard time handling in such a small device. An Arm MacBook Air could be a lot more powerful without grilling its own components. That is huge.
I just said that on another thread where another posted claimed Apple supports hardware the longest. Maybe in the smartphone realm, but definitely not in PCs. I guess I'll be running bootcamp Windows 11 on my maxed out 2020 MBP 13 in 2028!
Your computer will also self destruct 24 hours after your AppleCare runs out.
Apple must follow California law which I believe its 7 years for support.
No. Technically, it was "obsolete" before you purchased it. But, as long as it continues to do the tasks you got it for, it shouldn't matter, right?
A good point. Apple have neglected the Mac for years compared to the support it previously had. Hopefully the switch to Arm will mean Macs getting the attention they deserve.
The problems start right when software developers start to write and compile to ARM only apps. When major ecosystems and your key app providers decide (for economical reasons and because of cost cutting people) to jump the ship sooner than later, it is within months all over. They will not support two completely different platforms for long. True, they have done that (supporting) in history and back then, but life was simpler and there were less platforms to support. It is not about the old apps running, it is about the new apps with their new software interfaces, which create the standard. Your old apps may be functional - but just in theory.They are not really usable any more when you need that not-available-for-you new feature to co-operate, read and deliver. You start to notice that you have all at once lost interoperability with new phones, new cameras, new speakers, new communication apps, upgraded dropbox, upgraded onedrive and upgraded icloud, upgraded map services, upgraded office apps, upgraded graphic apps, upgraded music studio apps, upgraded netflix, upgrade calendar apps, upgraded address books and eventually the rest of your future life.
All Technology is obsolete the second you crack the seal on the box.
Yeah. I don't mean this in a negative way but you shouldn't own Macs. Sorry. The lockdown on hardware and user-upgradability has been going on for a long time, not sure why this tips you over the edge there.
As for not being able to run Windows or Linux....not to be flip but many of us view that as a positive. In PPC days very few ran other OSes and obvisouly they were run under emulation.
Luckily I own a Surface Book 2 for that express purpose. But the RAZR is looking to be a good candidate relatively soon.
Imagine, a passively cooled iMac. I can finally work quietly when the CPU's are running full time. Even if the performance is exactly the same as intel, with low power consumption, we will get cooler and quieter Macs, which is extremely important to me. Give me a quiet iMac and a quiet MBP.
The very first Intel Mac was released January 10, 2006. August 28, 2009 Mac OS 10.6 was released which only supported Intel. So looks like you've got about 3 years of support after the first Arm processor Mac comes out. If they release the first one in January 2021 by 2024 all Intel Macs will probably be obsolete. In some cases where models transition slower you might only get a year or two of support. I'd be very careful buying any expensive Mac at this time.
It's probably because Debian hadn't updated and it pulled referenced data as opposed to what the system actually was.
That’s the whole point. In the future, Apple will no doubt converge the two lines; a device that is essentially their version of the Surface Book
What? You’re not exciting about being able to run those crappy iOS apps on an expensive Mac!?
So you think Apple should not update their computers for another 2 years at least?
Thank you for being optimistic on bootloader topic. So yeah, maybe the future of Boot Camp is even brighter than it appears to me now. At least it's good that now Windows 10 for ARM isn't a myth, it's a working thing, and even ISO is finally available from Microsoft (there had been no ISO image downloads for ARM arch until this Spring).
No...it was a log line from Apache with the headers that Safari was returning. Obviously Safari would still be saying Intel right now to not give away the secret.
Yes and forget Steam or most PC gaming. Angry Birds LoL.
What they didn't tell us is whether the virtualization of Linux was an ARM version or Intel. They were very careful not to mention Windows.
But that's OK, as in their example of virtualization I am running Ubuntu 2020 64 bit server on my Intel Mac Pro 1,1 because of the 64 bit Xeon chips under El Capitan.
As with the PowerMac G5, Rosetta was not available on the PowerPC side to run Intel code, so to Rosetta 2 will not be available on the Intel side to run ARM code.
I'm not holding my breath for future Intel updates on the Mac platform, only minor tweaks.
iOS 14 looks exciting, hopefully they produce a stable iOS version this time. I'm ready to bail on iOS 13. You think the adoption rate is high for iOS 13, just wait for 14 to be released, especially if it's better.
But that's OK, as in their example of virtualization I am running Ubuntu 2020 64 bit server on my Intel Mac Pro 1,1 because of the 64 bit Xeon chips under El Capitan.
As with the PowerMac G5, Rosetta was not available on the PowerPC side to run Intel code, so to Rosetta 2 will not be available on the Intel side to run ARM code.
I'm not holding my breath for future Intel updates on the Mac platform, only minor tweaks.
iOS 14 looks exciting, hopefully they produce a stable iOS version this time. I'm ready to bail on iOS 13. You think the adoption rate is high for iOS 13, just wait for 14 to be released, especially if it's better.
The “standard” is a old, incontinent T-Rex that keeps losing its diaper every time we turn around crapping out useless nuggets of refresh, desperately trying to retain its title as King of the Dinosaurs when it needs to be thrown into the tar pit never to return.
I miss the days of SPARC, DEC Alpha, MIPS, PowerPC, PA-RISC, Clipper, et al. Now all we have is two decrepit players on the same team, one a little spryer than the other, but just one wrong move away from the retirement home.
We need things spiced up a bit, while so many people her seem to be content with warmed over Farina. YUCK!!!
Alright alright alright, yes I know we all knew this was coming, yes this has been something that's been rumoured for several years, but to see it actually happen is something else.
Couple thoughts here
1) apple is moving to arm merely as a way to better control the apps and programs it's users can access, by transitioning to apple ARM, apple now has the ability to greater restrict the types of apps allowed on it's platform much like it does with IOS and IpadOS. This is a disaster for professionals, hobbyists, and regular computer users which aren't just wealthy virtue signally consumers.
2) Apple is at this point more or less accepting that their computers, tablets, phones, etc are just overpriced toys and not actually computers.
Safe to say, my next computer will not be a mac. Even though I love my 16 inch mac dearly and that it's specs are high enough for me to avoid any need to upgrade for at least 5 years, apple will be pulling support for intel macs within 3 years, something which isn't horrible considering how apple care works. But due to this I'm hugely considering a permanent transition back to microsoft windows. And I do this with huge reluctance.
Couple thoughts here
1) apple is moving to arm merely as a way to better control the apps and programs it's users can access, by transitioning to apple ARM, apple now has the ability to greater restrict the types of apps allowed on it's platform much like it does with IOS and IpadOS. This is a disaster for professionals, hobbyists, and regular computer users which aren't just wealthy virtue signally consumers.
2) Apple is at this point more or less accepting that their computers, tablets, phones, etc are just overpriced toys and not actually computers.
Safe to say, my next computer will not be a mac. Even though I love my 16 inch mac dearly and that it's specs are high enough for me to avoid any need to upgrade for at least 5 years, apple will be pulling support for intel macs within 3 years, something which isn't horrible considering how apple care works. But due to this I'm hugely considering a permanent transition back to microsoft windows. And I do this with huge reluctance.
A12Z and 16GB of RAM is equivalent to a maxed out Mac Pro?