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Apple TV 4 32 or 64GB? (Poll)

Apple TV 32gb or 64gb

  • 32gb?

    Votes: 177 71.4%

  • 64gb?

    Votes: 71 28.6%
  • Total voters
    248
BODYBUILDERPAUL said:
You're seriously not taking into account the 'temporary' download of an iTunes film. When you watch a film from iCloud, the film downloads in its entirety. (Try doing the same on your iPhone and you'll see the same). Now how large a file do you think a 4K Dolby Vision one is especially when Dolby Atmos is included??? Pick a 3 hour or 2.5 hour film and you are easily going to hit 25GB.
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Are you absolutely sure that it is what happens?
If the UHD movies are streamed using HTTP Live Streaming (aka HLS) technology, the movie will consist of thousands of 5-10second clips (Mpeg Transport Stream), called segments. They definitely do not all need to be downloaded.
Without HLS, it would not be so easy to dynamically adjust the stream to the network bandwidh conditions. This adaptation does not happen mid-segment. Only between segments.
The whole idea of downloading full movie defies the adaptive bitrate streaming concept completely.
 
priitv8 said:
Are you absolutely sure that it is what happens?
If the UHD movies are streamed using HTTP Live Streaming (aka HLS) technology, the movie will consist of thousands of 5-10second clips (Mpeg Transport Stream), called segments. They definitely do not all need to be downloaded.
Without HLS, it would not be so easy to dynamically adjust the stream to the network bandwidh conditions. This adaptation does not happen mid-segment. Only between segments.
The whole idea of downloading full movie defies the adaptive bitrate streaming concept completely.
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So true, being unable to download the 4K iTunes movie itself (even rented ones) to built in Apple TV storage defies the need for larger storage. Even if Apple starts allowing 4K movie download, it'd be downloaded to the iTunes computer, which safe to assume have a sufficient hard drive to store hundreds or thousands of 4K movie files. Just like how current HD iTunes movies works.

On the flip side if I could get 64GB for the price of 32GB, it never hurts indeed. But at my place, the price difference between those 2 are too big. I'd rather put the money for future NAS fund, in case Apple allows us to download the 4K.
I also think the reason 4K iTunes movie priced so well is that because we're only allowed to stream it on the fly. In the future Apple could've raised the price if we want to buy or upgrade to a downloadable 4K movies. Just my 2cents.
 
BODYBUILDERPAUL said:
You're seriously not taking into account the 'temporary' download of an iTunes film. When you watch a film from iCloud, the film downloads in its entirety. (Try doing the same on your iPhone and you'll see the same). Now how large a file do you think a 4K Dolby Vision one is especially when Dolby Atmos is included???
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Huh? No it doesn't. If I click 'X-Men - Days of Future Past 4k', its not downloading a 20GB film to my ATV4K. Its streaming. If I pause after 10 minutes its not going to "download" the film as I would certainly see that on my router side. It might be caching a small part ahead, but its not doing 20GB unless i full STREAM the movie.
 
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I ordered the 64 GB Apple TV last night..guess I will roll over to Apple TV since Amazon and Netflix is on it
 
As is, it appears either option works fine for anyone. The same could apply to lessor capacity versions of iPhones, iPads and Macs. So why don't we buy the cheaper, lower capacities of those other Apple products?

There is apparently dynamic "unloading" of apps stored if space would get tight, so there may be a scenario that one could never fill up a 32GB version. Conceptually, it could just delete some space hogs not being used and then re-download them again when you want to use them again. This might even seem nearly seamless (you barely notice that it's having to re-download something it chose to jettison).

I wonder if one loaded up all 32GB with big game apps, built up in-game profiles (cars you've designed, etc) and then that app gets deleted to create space for something else you want to download, would this dynamic unload store your in-game profile(s) or would you have to rebuild that car again if that was the app it chose to jettison. THAT is the kind of scenario where maybe the seemingly unlimited space of 32GB might have an issue. But then again, maybe Apple would offload an app and any in-app profiles back to the computer to which the :apple:TV may be linked.

Nevertheless, here's a situation where it only take $20 or so to double your storage on an Apple device. While the benefit of that extra 32GB is not obvious today, maybe it becomes obvious tomorrow... or next year.

We're a bunch of people that will drag ourselves out of bed at 3am in the morning to try to be first to give Apple >$1000 for a phone that barely does more than the phone we already have... and yet we worry about $20? We covet a $5K or more iMac Pro, see a third party offer a configuration at $1000 off and quickly call a $4K iMac Pro a "bargain..." but one Jackson is much too dear? We probably pay $5-$10 for 1 cup of coffee, etc. In short: it seems a crowd of Apple fans should be the least bit concerned over a single Twenty that buys anything tangible from Apple.

If this was like the old days with iPhone where the hop from 32GB to 64GB was $100+, then clearly that's a few more cups of coffee. But a twenty?
 
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Totally agree with a lot of these posts. People on here are spending £3000+ on a OLED TV and question a £20 difference. Surely, going for the largest storage option of any Apple product is always a winner!

After running out of storage on both iPhones and MacBooks, I never want to be in this scenario ever again. I learnt the hard way and it was not fun! Now i've got 256GB on my X and 512GB on my MacBook and it seems to be great. I guess if Apple offered a 1TB option for the MacBook, then I would next time go for that!
 
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i always thought recording tv shows was great , but after filling up hd after hd with crappy old shows i never watch but keep because of some misguided sentimentality i've come to the conclusion that catch up tv and streaming truly is the future

iplayer on the atv is worth it's weight in gold , especially for classics like inside no 9 , peaky blinders etc
 
jav6454 said:
Same here. For $20, I get much more storage that I could well end up using when more apps make use of the 4K res.
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Or you could take advantage of this offer and get a brand new 32GB ATV for $95 less compared to the 64GB version:

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/02/09/directv-now-sweetens-apple-tv-4k/

It's also often on sale in stores for $150-160. I have never seen the 64GB version on sale. Even at the regular price I think $20 on top for a product that is already expensive compared to the competition isn't negligible. If there was some tangible benefit I'd see your point, but I use mine almost every day and have never encountered a situation where 32GB didn't work perfectly well.
 
Rigby said:
Or you could take advantage of this offer and get a brand new 32GB ATV for $95 less compared to the 64GB version:

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/02/09/directv-now-sweetens-apple-tv-4k/

It's also often on sale in stores for $150-160. I have never seen the 64GB version on sale. Even at the regular price I think $20 on top for a product that is already expensive compared to the competition isn't negligible. If there was some tangible benefit I'd see your point, but I use mine almost every day and have never encountered a situation where 32GB didn't work perfectly well.
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That's because storage on Apple TV works as a scratch disk for tvOS. It keeps the OS, but for everything else it's a temporary settlement. It doesn't keep any medias offline, until you use something like Plex, which streams content from the local server. Even apps goes on and off to keep it from clogging. Does it better to have 64GB? Sure, but 32GB doesn't cause any slower performance, or give you any less features.

Plus if you have ATV4K, most likely you already have a decent connection to go with it, like 30Mbps or more. Any missing contents can be streamed or redownloaded, fast.
Apple tvOS is the only OS that has a unique storage monitor, it tracks how much storage each apps use, but not showing you how much left like it does on iPhone or iPad. Just telling you how Apple TV is a device that doesn't actually need any storage.

So unless I can get 64GB for as much as 32GB, I really can't see any benefit of throwing money specifically for it. Sure, $20 difference is a good deal by Apple standard. But in my place, a 64GB may cost up to $40 - $50 over 32GB. Which make it even less justifiable for me.
 
Rigby said:
Or you could take advantage of this offer and get a brand new 32GB ATV for $95 less compared to the 64GB version:

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/02/09/directv-now-sweetens-apple-tv-4k/

It's also often on sale in stores for $150-160. I have never seen the 64GB version on sale. Even at the regular price I think $20 on top for a product that is already expensive compared to the competition isn't negligible. If there was some tangible benefit I'd see your point, but I use mine almost every day and have never encountered a situation where 32GB didn't work perfectly well.
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I'm happy with GoogleFiber, so no thanks.
 
I'm under the impression that the ATV4 can store purchased movies (NOT 4K movies though) and games.
 
youtube, netflix, are about all i use on it. bought the 32 and have no issues.
 
I should have bought the 32. I was planning to cut the cord fully, but got a WAF veto.
 
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