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Apple TV Updated with CNBC and FOX NOW Channels

peterdevries said:
We don't have to go all cheap, but I would like to have an option to pay selectively for what I want to watch at a fair price and for that price be rid of product placement programs and commercials. We currently have no option at all than to watch utter crap with crap intermissions about crap.
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Yes we do have an option to just pay for content we want:

iTunes Store

is one of many places to access content ala carte.
 
2010mini said:
Dunno if sharing info in the internet that you are scamming your cable company is a good thing.

Also the Apple TV apps are way better than any cable box VOD UI. and since so many of them charge monthly per set top box. I can use the Apple TV on a secondary tv to get content without an extra set top box from the cable company.
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I would not call it scamming. I did not sign anything saying I cannot share that info, and there does not appear to be any limit.
 
mattopotamus said:
I was re-wiring some of my cables and realized I have not turned on my ATV in about 3-4 months. It is now in a box collecting dust.

I have a fairly new TV, and the only apps I used on the ATV (netflix, amazon, and hbo go) are now part of my TV.
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Are you in the U.S. or U.K.? I cut the cord with cable over 5 years ago and I use my AppleTV daily and heavily. Netflix, WSJ LIVE, Sky News, You Tube, Vimeo, Vevo, Photos, Computer, Movies, Flickr, Smithsonian, History, The Weather Channel, (I bet I'm forgetting something else)...the AppleTV was such a good investment for me.
 
TsMkLg068426 said:
This would never happen if Steve Jobs was still around he would never take crap from any of this corporate monopolists sadly we got Tim Cook who just wants to play fair.

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Okay, than can you explain why Charter Communication does not allow access to HBO Go on Apple TV yet but only through my iPhone? There is no excuse for this when many cable companies allow it.
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It was Steve Jobs they told to go kick rocks. Tim on the other hand is actually getting the ball rolling.

Charter is not allowing it because they don't want to. Simple as that.
 
Yay, more CommieCast tie-ins.

Thankfully Apple introduced an easier way to hide content a few updates back so now I can have fun tonight reducing the main grid back to 5 squares again.
 
2010mini said:
It was Steve Jobs they told to go kick rocks. Tim on the other hand is actually getting the ball rolling.

Charter is not allowing it because they don't want to. Simple as that.
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Are you sure it is Charter Communications not allowing access to HBO Go? Call them and ask why no access yet and hear how they tell you it is Apple not fixing the Authentication to make it work or are you also going to tell me Charter is lying.
 
mattopotamus said:
I guess the only benefit is that you can share your cable log in with many people. I probably have about 20 people using my cable log in information.
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This may be one way to destroy the chokehold from cable companies.

No, we don't want bundles. Yes, we want to pay for what we want to see. Don't you get it? Time to give customers what they want.
 
alent1234 said:
$25 a season for cartoons, too expensive
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Then don't buy it. Wait for the bluray..... Oh wait that cost almost the same.

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TsMkLg068426 said:
Are you sure it is Charter Communications not allowing access to HBO Go? Call them and ask why no access yet and hear how they tell you it is Apple not fixing the Authentication to make it work or are you also going to tell me Charter is lying.
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Charter is lying! Charter sux
 
BJMRamage said:
Yes. Yes. Yes.

I really wish this could happen. Log in with credentials under settings, Activate the email/login and all appropriate channels are UNLOCKED!

should be simple. make it happen Apple.
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It could possibly resolve the issue where I need to reactivate HBO GO once every few days, and sometimes between shows. I am so sick of going through that process. Enough!
 
fixbroken said:
It could possibly resolve the issue where I need to reactivate HBO GO once every few days, and sometimes between shows. I am so sick of going through that process. Enough!
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I hate having to reactivate every so often as well.

Xfinity with their/my 105 Mbps is slower connecting to iTunes/AppleTV "channels" than my 40Mbps Fios.
Not sure if that data connection is an issue for me and the disconnects
 
What good are these Apple TV apps which require a cable subscription? Is Apple getting ready for their own Set Top box
 
bushman4 said:
What good are these Apple TV apps which require a cable subscription?
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They're good for getting to watch some cable TV channels on other TVs in your house without having to pay a $5-$10/monthly fee to rent a cable box for those TVs.

Since AppleTV works over WiFi, they're also good for getting some cable TV channels to TVs in rooms/locations that aren't physically wired for cable TV.

And if sometime in the future these channels will let people without cable subscriptions subscribe directly to the channel providers for the content, then these apps have already been out in the field and tested.
 
Excellent post and finally someone actually gets the cable industry. I'm sick of all the whiners that complain about cable prices. It's a business and when hey think it will be cheaper picking only the channels they want then they will realize that those are the channels that cable providers pay the most for. So they would pay more individually for them too. IE ESPN CNN FOX etc
HobeSoundDarryl said:
Wow, every one of these threads are the same.

What holds the model up now is not just ads. It's not the studios getting ad money and "greedy" cable taking the subscription. It's ads + subscription that makes it all go now.

We already have Apple's cut at al-a-carte. Had it for years. Subscribe to just the shows you want via the iTunes store. They even come with the benefit of commercial-free.

The al-a-carte that many think they can get (apparently by whining) is whole channels for near nothing. In other words, their math is 200 channels / $100 per month = 50 cents per channel. "I" want 10 channels, so my "new model" price should be about $5. Take 95% of the cash flow out of any business and that business will die.

The "requires cable subscription" issue is simple. All of the other players besides us consumers LIKE the model "as is". To make the big change "we" desire, THEY need to see how they are going to make MORE money- not less- by switching to what "we" seek. You guys keep whining about cutting the cord and cutting THEIR cash flows too. They don't want to make less money.

To get the al-a-carte "we" want then, involves a "new model" that would up the average revenue made per household now. If that is- say- $100/month now, the rest of the players probably want a "new model" to yield $125/month or more. So, "as is" is 200 channels for $100 month. New model will be "our" 10 or 15 favorite channels for $125/month or more. Channels wouldn't be priced at 50 cents each. They'd be priced like HBO at $10, $15, $20 or more EACH. The end result must be "more money" for the rest of the chain or they don't want to make the change. Why should they?

And what about those commercials? Commercials provide a subsidy. That's other people- companies- paying money into the model just hoping that you might see their commercial and buy something from them. If you have 10 or 15 favorite channels and "190 channels 'I' never watch", that's 190 channels running commercials you never see… that throw money into the pot to discount the model "as is" down to the $100 "we" pay. Kill the 190 channels "I" never watch and "we" kill a LOT of subsidy dollars.

How much is all those commercials worth in a monthly fee (for commercial-free) terms? I've done the math a few years ago. To get rid of all of the commercials and replace that with a monthly fee to make up for them, it would cost every household in America about $54/month.

The al-a-carte crowd is generally dreaming of $5/month, $10/month or maybe as much as $20-30/month. Plus $54/month? No way. But "we" expect the people that make the shows "we" do want to watch can keep making those shows anyway.

Then, there's the miserable dependency of any "new model" replacement over the internet. To connect us consumers with the cloud requires the replacement to work through pipes owned by the cable middlemen who likes their cable revenues "as is" now. Even if an Apple could motivate the Studios to take a HUGE risk and embrace the "new model" now, why should the cable middlemen allow Apple to take their cable TV revenues without making up for that revenues in- say- higher broadband rates.

I love the dream as much as the next guy but it falls apart as soon as we think beyond our own self interest. Very simply, the rest of the players in the chain can NOT make more money AND Apple piling on for a big cut while "we"- the source of all of the money in the model- get a huge discount. We already have programming created on the dirt cheap that might fit the al-a-carte "dirt cheap subscription" dream. It's called youtube.
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TsMkLg068426 said:
You work for Rupert Murdoch because you seem like you enjoy backing up Time Warners lies.
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What are you talking about? Time Warner Inc. and Time Warner cable are two distinct companies. Comcast is trying to buy TWC. Time Warner Inc. and their content has nothing to do with the cable side of things.
 
SD-B said:
I find my apple TV rather useless.
I use it simply to show films on my mac, to the TV, but i could do that without the Apple TV anyhow.

Mind you, it was a gift as it was Apple TV 3........perhaps a jailbroken 2 Would have been much better :p
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Previous owner of a jailbroken Apple TV 2 here.

It doesn't do a whole lot else, a lot of software you can download is broken or unavailable due to lost support. The things that are available are mostly low quality streams which may or may not work, the sort of thing you could just stream on a computer (think [watchtvforfreeonlinecartoons-now].com). and it doesn't expand a whole lot on what you can do compared to just...well...buying a Roku*. Neat to look through and I'm glad I tried it out, but it probably isn't worth the investment unless you already have one, and may not be worth the effort.

The only real upside is that you can sell it on eBay for 2-3x the cost of a new Apple TV.

*Disclaimer: I have never actually tried using a Roku.
 
What's the point in adding channels that require a cable subscription when you can already watch them through your cable box.
 
2010mini said:
Yes we do have an option to just pay for content we want:

iTunes Store

is one of many places to access content ala carte.
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Not for regular TV programming that brings you news, actual events and daily documentaries. I would also like to watch some normal good quality shows and these are not available on iTunes either. There is more than TV series and movies..
 
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