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Apple Unveils iOS 7 with Major Design Overhaul, Multitasking and Control Center

WilliamG said:
Android's implementation is hardly fool-proof. The number of times something has misbehaved on my neighbor's Jellybean Galaxy Nexus and his battery has died because of failed multitasking is innumerable.
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Oh please, if you're going to dis something at least do it honestly. My battery has been drained by misbehaving apps exactly 0 times, hardly innumerable is it?

As for IOS7 I'm glad to see it implementing some Android / Windows phone style features, about time these features were available to Apple users.
 
jimbobb24 said:
I had a friend who showed me his Android phone. It was working slow so he opened up an app that killed all the other apps multitasking. I laughed and thought that was the dumbest thing I had ever seen for a phone.

Multitasking on a phone remains a stupid thing that will just lead to poor battery life and crashes. The screen is the interface, why would I want to run apps in the background? I am disappointed apple went this route. There just are no good reasons for background apps that have not already been addressed in apples current way of doing mutlitasking.

On 4S battery life has been a constant problem, so I will certainly not be updating until lots of people get enough experience with what iOS 7 does to the battery. Multitasking is useless, and hurting battery and having my phone heat up = double worthless.

And...its ugly. Flat is a trendy word for ugly apparently. We have a gamut of colors and other effects that convey information, but the design Gods have decided what we really want is a lack of information and just bland screens that look like they were developed by Soviet engineers for maximum blandess.

I will repeat what I have said before, the hatred of skeumorphism is an inter-design war that is being fought between a couple of design nerds. It contributes nothing and takes away nothing from the utility of apps, some design nerds just think its gross. So, when they got in charge they go so far away from it that they move into bland land.

Some of the other features look good. But I think the phone has had almost no useful improvements except system search and notification center. Wait, folders were good too.
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Sorry your 4s has been giving you trouble, mine has been great ever since the first iOS update after it was released. It's puzzling why virtually identical devices seem to have completely difference experiences.
 
Michaelgtrusa said:
Some designers don't like it. http://designerscomplaining.tumblr.com/
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Isn't "designers complaining" kind of redundant?

As far as iOS goes, the only criticism I have is that I hate that they made iBooks so plain. :( I loved the feel of the bookshelves and the look of the book as I was reading it; I hope there's an option to bring that back.

Other then that, I like it. I'm so glad they didn't do away with the colours.
 
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After sleeping on if I can say I like it less. There are a few good things about it but uniform and intuitive are not one of them. The design looks confused and unnatural. I hope this changes for the better with feedback on the beta.
 
Like.....

the overhaul and the hard work put in this iOS update. I hope all works as showed or at least, very near. Like the simplified interfase and the transparency effect (and I am not an eye candy guy!). Would like real world data as battery life, how speedier is and so on.

But definitely a step forward, at least in theory....:D


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Ping Guo said:
I know you were being sarcastic, but have a read:

Samsung Galaxy S4 sales 'to disappoint'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/samsung/10105633/Samsung-Galaxy-S4-sales-to-disappoint.html
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And yet disappointing is relative. "JPMorgan now expects shipments of the S4 to be 60 million this year, compared with a previous estimate of 80 million. "

60M is hardly bad sales in the slightest. And while it might disappoint wall street (if you want to get into that - look at Apple the past year - yikes) - the fact that the S4 is selling so well clearly refutes the OP I was responding to that people only buy android because it's cheap - not because they actually like Android. Which is farcical.
 
I think in the end, all the ranting and raving about the new UI design of iOS 7.0 comes down to the fact we're so used to the skeuomorphic elements of iOS 6.x versions and earlier that any major change is going to displease some users.
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Besides, what we're seeing right now is only the first public beta drop of iOS 7.0. I'm sure that as additional beta drops appear for developers over the summer there will be some changes to the UI design based on developer feedback so the switch to the non-skeuomorphic UI when the final version of iOS 7.0 is released probably around late September 2013 won't be so extremely jarring to average users of any device that can use iOS 7.0.
 
Steviejobz said:
For some reason there are more Android fans on Apple forums than there are Apple users on Android sites.

Why is that?
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Lol insecure trolling phandroids

I don't even want to see the phandroids pissing contests there.
 
I feel like Apple has found their voice. They finally feel like a company with clarity of vision and purpose that isn't tied to Steve Jobs.

I love iOS 7, and I adore the intro video to the keynote and new TV spot.
 
Here's what history has taught us.

People will either love it. Or they will not love it so much. But over time, they will adjust and either they will love it so much they become an advocate for the changes or most will just be ok with it. There will be those that might always hate it - but they will either be very vocal or move on to something else to comment on. Some may even be inclined to change OSes.

It's always "loudest" at the beginning. Then the clamor dies down.
 
neuropsychguy said:
We shouldn't make assumptions about people. If you had made that bet you'd have lost it (here's a post of mine from 1 month ago where I commented on Android versions: https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=17266289#post17266289). I've been tracking what OS version Android users are running for years though. I've owned nothing but Android phones since I got my first smartphone in 2010 and have been critical of the fragmentation for years. Fragmentation helps Google gain market share but at the expense of users who do not have the newest phone models (and even then that's no guarantee of updates). Fragmentation is an important problem (why I was tracking it) because it means if users want the features and security of newer iterations of Android they have to root their devices and install custom ROMs unless they run one of the official Google devices or happen to have one of the few Android-based phones that actually are updated (most are not). I have no problem doing that (I've done it with my previous phones) but it's a hassle and not everything works as well as it should. Even though the process is easy, most people do not have the skills to apply these custom ROMs. Another reason why fragmentation is important to consider is that it means that yes, Jelly Bean has lots of fancy features, but most people running Android-based phones do not have those features. They are stuck in the past. Apple EOLs devices but at least most iPhones can run the newest versions of iOS. Even the iPhone 4 will run iOS 7.

For more info, here's one of the most up-to-date sources of which version of Android users have: http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/android-jelly-bean-marketshare-overtakes-ice-cream-sandwich-gingerbread-still-going-strong-361920

iOS 7 certainly leapfrogs over JB - it'd be a poor refresh if it didn't (it also means that iOS 6 was behind JB in many features, which it is).

Speaking of Apple (Mac) clones - I owned one of those back in the day. A nice but flawed Motorola system. ;)

I don't deny that I am an Apple fan - I've been using Apple computers my entire life (30+ years) and use them almost exclusively for my research. This doesn't keep me from using my Windows machines (mainly for gaming at this point) or my Linux boxes (usually running Neurodebian for some research tools I use). This doesn't keep me from using Android phones - I've never owned an iPhone. What this means is I don't go around mindlessly spouting PR (most of the time).
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Point taken, and I apologize for the condescending tone of my post.

But again, I wonder why this is even an issue for you or anyone else? What does it matter (to you) if Jim Bob over there is using an Android phone that's still on Gingerbread? I get your argument that someone running a phone that doesn't have the latest software also doesn't have the most updated security, but that doesn't affect YOU.

Why is it a big deal to any individual user what OS another user is running? That's the point I was trying to make. Only the phone (and OS) you're using affects you in your daily use. And if it's someone close to you, and you NEED a certain set of options that are only available on a certain software version, then you've already stated that you're more than capable of updating the phone using a custom ROM. If that's the case, then wouldn't you offer to update their system for them?

This is an issue that Apple likes to point out because it makes them look good...because people hear it and think Android is out of date. That's just not the case. I couldn't care less if the person over there, that I don't know, is running an older firmware. It doesn't affect me.

The fact is, the way Google does it, with the bulk of their core apps available in the Play Store, if there's an update that needs to be done it can be done immediately. With Apple, they have to release an entire new OS in order to update any issues.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I'm trying to understand why it matters to anyone what OS anyone else is running. As long as your phone is up to date, then it shouldn't matter.
 
Steviejobz said:
For some reason there are more Android fans on Apple forums than there are Apple users on Android sites.

Why is that?
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Why pigeonhole people? Can't people be fans of certain Android products and certain Apple products? I love Android tabs and phones, iPhone I hate, iPad is ok I guess. Mac is a great computer, Windows PC's I love how easily upgradable they are.

So am I an Android fan, Apple fan, Windows fan, Apple hater? Or perhaps just somebody that loves tech!
 
"if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" that's what apple is doing.
but i have to say that apple has managed to satisfy the majority of people with the new look of iOS. talking about the new features, people had been waiting for these features for years, finally! we can use em on our iphone. only one thing is left now: a new design for the iphone.
 
First?

If you start taking a panoramic shot in Camera, double-tap the home button to bring up the MT view, you can continue panning to complete the pano photo.
 
KentuckyHouse said:
Point taken, and I apologize for the condescending tone of my post.

But again, I wonder why this is even an issue for you or anyone else? What does it matter (to you) if Jim Bob over there is using an Android phone that's still on Gingerbread? I get your argument that someone running a phone that doesn't have the latest software also doesn't have the most updated security, but that doesn't affect YOU.

Why is it a big deal to any individual user what OS another user is running? That's the point I was trying to make. Only the phone (and OS) you're using affects you in your daily use. And if it's someone close to you, and you NEED a certain set of options that are only available on a certain software version, then you've already stated that you're more than capable of updating the phone using a custom ROM. If that's the case, then wouldn't you offer to update their system for them?

This is an issue that Apple likes to point out because it makes them look good...because people hear it and think Android is out of date. That's just not the case. I couldn't care less if the person over there, that I don't know, is running an older firmware. It doesn't affect me.

The fact is, the way Google does it, with the bulk of their core apps available in the Play Store, if there's an update that needs to be done it can be done immediately. With Apple, they have to release an entire new OS in order to update any issues.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I'm trying to understand why it matters to anyone what OS anyone else is running. As long as your phone is up to date, then it shouldn't matter.
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Exactly a point I've made several times on this forum.

I also don't agree that iO7 leapfrogs JB. How so? Maybe one or two features are in iOS7 that aren't in JB? I am sure the same is true in reverse.

At the end of the day - if the phone/os does what you need and want it to - that's all that matters. Pretty much case closed.
 
If you love that, you'll love the Weather Channel app. Same with maps, I use the Garmin N. America app, just like having a real Garmin GPS...The Apple version of weather and maps are generic.
Terrin said:
Ditto.
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won't be downgrading to iOS7. It looks horrible, from the icons to the colors. it's too bright and looks faddish. The icons look flat, no pop to them. I'll stick with iOS6.
 
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