Apple Unveils macOS 'Sierra' With New Continuity Features, Window Tabs, Apple Watch Login, Siri, and More

[boast]

I hope PiP works with FaceTime!

 

[donlab]

End of spinning HDDs?

In future macs? Probably.

 

[tgwaste]

pip will be pimp

 

[Corrode]

Engadget got it:
MacBook, iMac: Late 2009 or later
MacBook Air/Pro, Mac Mini/Pro: 2010 or later
Xserve support is officially discontinued

I know my mid-2009 MBP is old, but if it can run El Capitan, why shouldn't it be able to run Sierra?

 

[pier]

Metal is dead. No dev interest or support. Apple's refusal to support Vulkan is hurting devs and is based purely upon pride and hubris. They need to accept that Metal is a failure and give devs what they need.

I agree with you actually.

What I meant in my previous post was that Metal is the new OpenGL in OSX. The situation with OpenGL was depressing before Metal, and it will probably only get worse from now on. I seriously doubt Apple will get into Vulkan, although it would be awesome.

 

[NapoleonIV]

Hey, so does anybody know what version number macOS Sierra is? Is it still an ‘OS 10’?

 

[allanfries]

And why can't one unlock ones Mac with their iPhone?? Why only the watch. Guess I'll be keeping "Near Lock" around for a while yet.

 

[steve333]

They should have worked on simplifying the OS instead.
dmg files? My bro in law has them all over his desktop because he doesn't know you can trash them.
Downloaded files should open and install with one click, automate the rest.
macOS? Really? That looks better to Cook than MacOS?

 

[Scary Spice]

...But Apple thought adding all those gimmicks to Messages was more important.

Thats what happens when you are reactionary and the bean counters are running the place.

 

[DevNull0]

End of spinning HDDs?

What is so horrible about an SSD boot drive and spinning mass storage?

 

[Bubble99]

You can't be serious. What about a modern file system? What about a modern, competitive graphics API? What about a better file manager? What about a reworked App Store? You know, just the unimportant details…

What is wrong with OS X graphics API/ GPU? You not happy that it is not touch screen? It not like windows 8 that is touch screen?

 

[grahamperrin]

… he doesn't know you can trash them. …

http://web.archive.org/web/20160613192019/http://www.apple.com/macos/sierra-preview/

… help you find and remove old files you no longer use …

Easily get rid of duplicate and obsolete files.

macOS Sierra can keep unneeded files from cluttering up your Mac. It reminds you to delete used app installers, and clears out duplicate downloads, caches, logs, and other unnecessary stuff. …

 

[hudson1]

Regarding legacy hardware support, I believe the keynote slide enumerated what the Developer Preview would run on. Is there a history of additional hardware being included for the final release?

 

[AustinIllini]

For what I use OS X for I don't need anymore features, or rather the features offered each year either don't appeal to me or aren't relevant. There's no point upgrading for the sake of upgrading. I believe the phrase is "it just works".

Personally software I use for work doesn't work on Mavericks or beyond so I have to stay on Mountain Lion for that respect, but even if I did Yosemite would be the highest I'd go. El Cap was a bland release and Sierra looks even worse.

So you're complaining about the lack of new features but you don't need the new features. It all makes sense now.

 

[duervo]

I wouldn't necessarily call this "underwhelming". More like, "it's about freaking time." I'm referring specifically to Apple finally coming out with a new file system: Apple File System. HFS+'s days are finally numbered.

- Clones is similar to deduplication, but will still use more space than that. Actually, it's a lot closer to thin-provisioning on SAN storage arrays or VMFS file systems, etc. Sort of a hybrid between file versioning and thin-provisioning. Space is only used once the cloned files or directories are written to.
- Snapshots. This is a big one. Similar to Microsoft's VSS and VMware's snapshot feature.

Those are the 2 biggest pluses for me from the Platform State of the Union presentation that Apple's doing right now.

ArsTechnica has a more detailed write-up about APFS here: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/0...ocumentation-for-apfs-apples-new-file-system/

 

[tigres]

did they re-write mail, and does it work now?

 

[pat500000]

Its a decent incremental update, I'm not overly jazzed up over the update. I'm no fan of the California names, but I do like Mac OS

Why do we need three naming identifiers of this. macOS Sierra 10.12.xx?

Don't you miss the cats name?
I did.

 

[Tech198]

Not really something i would upgrade to.....

 

[simon lefisch]

Really bumming about Siri. Not a feature I would use (like the Maps app). Too bad there's no way to add/remove that feature.

 

[ZZ9pluralZalpha]

How about this?
The Apple File System (APFS) is the next-generation file system designed to scale from an Apple Watch to a Mac Pro. APFS is optimized for Flash/SSD storage, and engineered with encryption as a primary feature.

ArsTechnica appears to have the scoop and a summary of what's in the developer docs.

 

[kultschar]

Plus 1 - what is really new about iCloud Drive?????

Can anyone explain what the changes to iCloud Drive are? The description is very vague. I thought you could already share your files between your Mac, iPhone and iPad. At least that is what I'm doing now. What does this change provide that I can't do now?

 

[interstella]

I can't wrap my head around this feature: does Apple actually think it's a good idea to mess around with their users' files?

With the cheap SSD's available these days I really cannot see the point of this at all. The example they gave in the keynote would use 3 months worth of my satellite Internet allowance! No mention of cost either. Surely such massive amounts of data using iCloud wouldn't be free?
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Pretty excited for this, finally Siri!

Am I alone in thinking that talking to a computer is an utterly pointless novelty exercise? Someone at Apple has been watching too much Star Trek. I like to use a computer, not talk to it. I'll never have a driverless car for a similar reason...I like driving.

Post merged...how the hell did that happen? Wasn't me!

 

[Jpcastill]

hey guys installed it on my macbook, and then i go back to the Dev center to redownload it for my iMac, and i guess its only one download code? once i go back to the downloads sections its there but i can't download it for my iMac..

 

[PaulRustad007]

According to Apple, my 2011 iMac will continue to live on!

But with no continuity......so most of the features will not apply to our machines.

 

[Bubble99]

With the cheap SSD's available these days I really cannot see the point of this at all. The example they gave in the keynote would use 3 months worth of my satellite Internet allowance! No mention of cost either. Surely such massive amounts of data using iCloud wouldn't be free?
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Am I alone in thinking that talking to a computer is an utterly pointless novelty exercise? Someone at Apple has been watching too much Star Trek. I like to use a computer, not talk to it. I'll never have a driverless car for a similar reason...I like driving.

Post merged...how the hell did that happen? Wasn't me!

Well exactly in few clicks that take only seconds I can get what need done. Always talking to computer like switch to app, now back to app, Switch to tab xx, now tab xx, now minimize xx, open xx, switch to xx now, switch to xx. Will get on my nerves.

Unless you are a really bad speller typing a sample google search is really easy and fast.

Some of these pictures and documents I have cannot really be explain in words to human that lone AI. I need to go in there and look.

I do have folder so I'm not saving pictures and documents all over the place.
[doublepost=1465861452][/doublepost]Can you install google earth on this OS?