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Apple Unveils macOS 'Sierra' With New Continuity Features, Window Tabs, Apple Watch Login, Siri, and More

Kind of sad. OS X updates are what I look forward to the most, but aside from universal copy and paste, everything else seemed like filler that I'll have to disable. I absolutely don't want iCloud managing my disk storage, I don't want auto unlock, I don't care much for Siri....

Aw well.
 
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Jarman74 said:
I hear you, I've got the very same machine. I'm willing to bet it would still be plenty capable to run Sierra and I'm curious to know the technical reasons - if any - why support for it was dropped.
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If it's like what we've seen before, there's no technical reason. The MacPro1,1 is artificially limited to not run El Capitan. El Capitan runs fine on a 1,1 as long as you hack the boot.efi to force it. I'll bet there will be a similar hack for Sierra on pre-2010 MPs.

I don't know if it's worthwhile for me... Xcode was literally the only reason I ever updated past Mountain Lion (and SL only lacked support for my GPU). I might get away with going to an old OS and not using the latest Xcode.
 
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WhatUp? said:
Wow! You'll have to show us how you run those "free" Windows releases without a PC.
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The point is that MSFT is usually not selling the hardware, and Apple clearly charges a premium for a macOS-capable machine. From MSFT's point of view, the PC is free in that they didn't make money off of it. And the consumer isn't locked into buying MSFT hardware to run Windows.
 
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Janichsan said:
You can't be serious. What about a modern file system? What about a modern, competitive graphics API? What about a better file manager? What about a reworked App Store? You know, just the unimportant details… :mad:
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What's wrong with the file system? I've only heard that rant from Torvalds, and it was just about bogus reasons involving filename comparison (e.g. non-case-sensitive, which it should be anyway if you don't want to confuse people). Looked more like he was somehow personally offended by it. Are there actually problems with performance and reliability?
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thomsonr said:
Check this out:
https://developer.apple.com/library...ual/APFS_Guide/Introduction/Introduction.html

If you can't get to the link look for Apple File System.
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Oooo, very interesting.
 
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Meanwhile, the Photos app is getting a new intelligent Memories feature, which automatically creates curated collections of special occasions like birthdays, weddings, and vacations using people, object, and location recognition.

Bolstered by the new recognition technology, the People feature will automatically group photos into Albums based on who is in them, while Places will display photos on a world map so users can see where they were taken.
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So Apple had about a year to improve on the Photos App to implement features Aperture had but all they did was to come up with some gimmicks.

God, what happened to Apple? Billion dollar company and they can only come with Burgers and Fries. Can't they really have a dedicated workforce writing professional grade software (and hardware, too, for that matter) anymore, or has now everything to be streamlined for the mass market, lowest dominator or highest selling groups?

Would it really hurt Apple to offer some professional grade stuff again, too? Surely they could afford it?!
 
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sudo1996 said:
But MS service packs work on the oldest hardware physically possible. They phased out my brother's MacPro4,1 that's more powerful than every newer Mac that isn't a Mac Pro.
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This is stupid hubris on Apple's part.

I have a Mac Pro 4.1 flashed to 5.1 to support dual 6-core Xeons.

My CPU benchmark score is higher than the best MP2013 trashcan.

I am using a GTX 960 graphics card.

There is no reason that this machine can't handle the next 10-20 years of whatever operating systems can bring.

But there will be solutions... Mac Pro 1.1 users can install a special boot.efi file to allow their macs to boot El Capitan. The whole OS itself works unmodified.

Something similar will happen for MP4.1. Maybe it even works out of the box for MP4.1's flashed to 5.1.

Only one thing is for sure: I have been pissed off for years at Apple for pissing on pro users. No new hardware and no upgradeable machines. And no bootscreen on my Mac Pro just because I have the audacity to install a modern PC graphics card?

My MacBook Pro 2010 and Mac Pro 2009 are the last Macs I ever buy. When they die, I will exclusively make hackintoshes for full upgradability, bootscreens, effortless multi-OS support, etc. Apple said screw pros; so I say screw Apple. I just need the OS and Logic Pro X, and there is no sense buying powerful, super expensive, unupgradable Apple hardware if they arbitrarily make it obsolete in 7 years, despite it being way more powerful than modern machines.

The hardware in the 2009, 2010 and 2012 Mac Pros is identical (only the motherboard firmware differs to add hexacore CPU support). The drivers for everything in the 2009 is therefore already in Sierra. The decision to drop it was greed. Apple could afford to support very powerful discontinued machines but they want us to pay pay pay every year. Well for Mac Pros there isn't even anything to buy, so this is the sad, pathetic end for Apple's long-dying pro market. ;)

EDIT: Great news! Mac Pro 4.1 flashed to 5.1 firmware supports the stock, unmodified macOS Sierra installer and runs the OS perfectly. This brings hope to the hordes of people who bought MP2009's as the most cost-effective Mac Pro choice recently. (The linked thread also reveals that Apple has updated the built-in NVIDIA driver to a version that supports Maxwell cards, ie. the GTX 9xx series, but that they MANUALLY DELETED the support for Maxwell cards just to be dicks, so that we still need to juggle NVIDIAS Web Driver before every OS update. Nothing surprises me about Apple anymore.) I'll be rocking as many new OS versions as this flashed "5.1" allows me, hopefully many versions to come. After that, I suspect we'll need some minor tweak to get some future macOS version to run. And when the day comes that it finally becomes totally unsupported, I'll be able to build a new Hackintosh with some awesome, unreleased "future hardware" (TM). Probably a 40-core Intel by then or something. A few years ago I despised Hackintoshes. Now they're the best way to run OS X / macOS. Goodbye Apple. Your OS is great but your Mac Desktop hardware has fallen from grace...

PS... Think about it: The main argument against Hackintoshes is that Apple doesn't want people to run OS X that way, so you would constantly be fighting Apple for the right to run OS X. Well, Apple doesn't want its own hardware to run OS X either. So what is the difference anymore? ;) I think we can all agree that having to hack a Mac to run its own OS is stupid.
 
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Will update to final release of El Capitan when it becomes available.
I'm not upgrading this until at least .5 when everything is stable.
 
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Looks great to me; can't wait for it to be released (not public beta, but full release in Fall). I love the iCloud file sync feature; that seems very cool to me. And the universal cut-and-paste will come in very handy.
 
rwilliams said:
Yeah, the unlock feature still isn't convincing enough to buy an Apple Watch. Especially when I already have an iPhone in my pocket that should be advanced enough to do the same thing.
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Not a compelling reason to buy a watch, no. But would you want proximity to your locked phone to be enough to let someone into your Mac? (And if you have to unlock the phone each time, it's probably not saving you much time over just typing a password.)

Once a watch is unlocked via passcode or touch ID on the phone, it stays unlocked until you take it off. That's its benefit over the phone for this purpose.
 
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Why's does macOS Sierra sounds very 1980s.
As for the features, I'm really digging the ability to unlock with Apple Watch, improved continuity which at the current point in time is a little hit n' miss, and finally Siri for macs. Siri, I bet for my needs, would be a novelty, as I rarely use it on my watch, iPad, or iPhones, it really is not too accurate or allows truly dictation/voice commands bar the most simplest things, e.g. text BF you're dumped.. Whcih was sent as you're trumped!

<disclaimer, I would never end a relationship over a text, it was just a text.. I would rather send an email that allows rich descriptions of why one can not bear to be with that persons, plus an added mugshot with a smile!
 
Under Security and Privacy, the Allow Apps Downloaded From section is missing the anywhere option.

I hope this is just a Developer limitation...
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The use of a Big Sur trip as an example makes me think that the naming scheme was shifted at a rather late date from a "Major release = new California Location" to "Minor release = location around/connected to Yosemite." Many of the other parts of the macOS presentation were connected to the Sierras ("Lake Tahoe trip," etc.), making the shared Copy/Paste part usage of Big Sur odd.
 
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