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Hmmm, the Touchbar thing has me wondering how useful it really is? Pull down menus would seem to be faster as you can see all of the possible selections without scrolling and re-scrolling with your finger. It is cool, but is it better than pull down menus, or window in a window?

Is there any indication that you could customize the order of the scroll bar icons?
 
Epic Fail. I've been waiting for high resolution (4K/5K; Retina is no longer enough) and 32 GB RAM. And pricing is just ridiculous for the "upgrades". And MagSafe has saved my laptop too many times to count.

Belkin do a USB-C magsafe type cable.
 
That's what I was going to write. PCIe SSDs with these specs are $630 for 1 TB and $330 for 512 GB (and they aren't released yet). Apple charges $200 more for the bump from 256 to 512, which is fairly reasonable. From 256 to 1 TB is $600. That's also fairly reasonable. Yes, it's expensive but if you really need to store a lot of data, buy an external drive or use cloud storage.

People complain about overpriced Macs but they've always come at a premium. With that premium you get a phenomenally designed computer that is slim, light, and powerful. You also get great included software and good customer support. Additionally your computer has slower depreciation in value, which means it has high resale value. I've priced out a lot of PCs and Macs over the years and, factoring in resale, it's almost always better to buy a Mac than a computer running Windows (unless you can get by with $300 Windows computers [assuming they work and are usable for a few years]).

Additional note: the original Mac was $2500, which is $5800 in 2016 dollars. These new computers are quite a bargain in light of that.
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I am a psychologist so it does tell me something. ;-)

He has mother issues?
 
They've gone off the deep end.
I honestly don't know if they understand what pro customers want.
It's certainly not a freaking Emoji bar.
They DON'T. They're a friggin' FASHION company at this point; the only things they understand are jacking up the price on useless junk, stiffing third-world countries for rare resources, and defining the entire culture with their warped BS.

A laptop that trades USB ports for an emoji toy isn't innovation, it's the final straw that will push me to PC!
 
Prediction for Fall 2017 -

Apple Wireless Keyboard with Touch Bar for $99.

$149 with numpad
I agree. Apple will have to develop it though because it's doubtful that PC manufacturers or Microsoft, for that matter, will want to integrate it into their ecosystem. I think it would have made more sense to integrate the virtual keyboard into the screen where it could be accessible without having to look down at the keyboard as gesturing is already available there.. But then a lot of us had similar opinions about Apple design decisions when Apple abandoned the floppy and then the CD. Time will tell whether this follows the Newton into the dust pan of history.
 
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Quick background... I'm a Microsoft Surface Pro 2 user. My daughter has a mid-2012 MBP that I admin and upgrade for her, so I keep my eye on the Mac world. With that, a few comments...

1) It seems like they may be pricing themselves out of the education market.
2) USB-C has a great feature I don't think anyone on the thread has mentioned. It allows a single point of contact for power and video. Not sure if you can simultaneously provide network and other USB connections via a hub or dock. One thing I really like about Surface (and other enterprise class machines) is the ability to dock into multiple connections (video, audio, USB, power and network).
3) Touchbar seems like a gimmick. I agree with other critics on the thread. Why bother with touch BAR when I have a touch SCREEN.
4) Need to investigate if they've pushed the envelope on battery life...
Nope Microsoft Surface Book (nearest competitor) has 16 hour life.
 
Nice new additions, but it's also a shame these were removed:
  • SD Card Slot
  • HDMI Port
  • MagSafe
  • Real tactile function keys
The touch bar seems like a good idea but that depends on how it's implemented. If you keep having to "exit out" of the contextual mode just to be able to change your display brightness or volume, that would be annoying. Currently those things are always just 1 button press away.

It would have been very un-Apple, but there could have been enough space just above the function keys for the touch bar, rather than instead of the function keys.

3rd party adoption is also a big question. Sure Final Cut Pro X works with it, but not Adobe Premiere. Sure Photos works with it, but not Photoshop, and so on...


One cool thing they could have tried doing is to have made the big new trackpad Apple Pencil compatible. Wacom users would appreciate that. Not sure if it would work ergonomically, but if it would, that could have been a game changer.
 
This is why I left iPhone for Android a few years back (and couldn't be happier) and now it looks like it's time to leave Apple computers. Three times the money for half the innovation.
 
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Great laptop but the prices have become astonishingly bad! UK prices are especially insane! I understand that Apple products carry a premium but still... Imagine in a year or so they are still going to peddling these models at these prices :eek:
 
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