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Apple Unveils Redesigned MacBook Pro With Notch, Added Ports, ProMotion Mini-LED Display, M1 Pro or M1 Max Chip, and More

For the people saying that it's chunky, I just had a look at the thickness of the OG M1 MBP, it's 1.56cm thick compared to 1.55cm of the new 14"....am I reading it wrong? The pictures make the new one look thicker.
 
ruka.snow said:
It’s UHS 1. Enjoy emptying a card 40-170 MB/s at best. Everyone still using SD will still need and external reader and everyone else will use their TB3/4 CF Express readers and transfer at 1700 MB/s.
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For most users, the built in SD Card slot will be more than adequate. For those in demanding pro workflows, they’ll simply buy or use an SD Card reader they already own or not care since they use CFast or something proprietary. Video being run out to an Atomos ends up on an SSD, so no worries there since there is now an extra TB4 port for offloading video.
 
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Stella said:
What is a "Pro"?

At the company I work at, most people use MacBook Pros with external monitors. Those external monitors all have HDMI connectors. We'd definitely be categorized under "Pro" users.
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Good, but one company doesn't form the overall market requirements. Once HDMI standard is upgraded, MBPro becomes obsolete and so. And it's obvious due to sustainable ongoing data request and development from users.
 
ruka.snow said:
It’s UHS 1. Enjoy emptying a card 40-170 MB/s at best. Everyone still using SD will still need and external reader and everyone else will use their TB3/4 CF Express readers and transfer at 1700 MB/s.
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Nowadays, these speeds are useless condireing raw data volume. SSD is the key. SD cards are slow and not reliable at all.
 
RigSatMe said:
Good, but one company doesn't form the overall market requirements. Once HDMI standard is upgraded, MBPro becomes obsolete and so. And it's obvious due to sustainable ongoing data request and development from users.
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No, your right, one company doesn't. However, if Apple's research suggests that most ( 50% and over ) people use HDMI, then that's what happen will provide.

You still haven't answered "what is a Pro", since you seem to think that USB-C is "Pro". The vast majority of monitors have HDMI connections. HDMI 2 has recently come out, that doesn't make existing laptops that have HDMI 1.4 obsolete, it's backwards compatible.

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Added feature of the new MacBook Pro "Ninotchka":
When you plug in one or more external displays, will each also have a corresponding "notch", so as to match the mothership...?
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MedRed said:
Ty

magsafe keeps me from damaging my expensive laptop when the cable is inadvertently pulled by animal or human in my dynamic household. It’s saved me many, many times…even when not home. Why does it bother you so much? You already use dongles. Just upgrade your portal hub to add the port you’re missing. I avoided that whole dongle mess and I’m happy Apple came to their senses.
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'Cause it is useless. Considering updated battery longevity there is no point in MagSafe at all. Don't use dongles at all, because each tech has usb-c nowadays, and most of the time use wireless connection.
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
Don't trade in. Keep. Best of both worlds.

OR, do trade in. Buy a cheap PC with only enough power to run whatever you need to run in Windows.

Perhaps consider one of those PC NUCs as a fat Windows "dongle."

I'm in the same boat as you. As a businessman who serves clients that sometimes need me to be able to run Windows-only stuff or have absolute compatibility with Windows software (even when there is a Mac version of something), I face the very same issues (even the Dreamweaver one). There's no single system option here.

The days of having ONE computer able to fully handle both worlds is fading fast (ARM Windows is NOT a solution that covers all such bases). So we're back to needing TWO computers if we need something to run new MacOS and Windows. And those people who have to do a fair amount of work that requires Windows will potentially need to think about which kind of computer they really need to buy next. Those who need Windows but have favored Macs because they could also run Windows may have to bail/defer on new Macs because need > want.

I wish there was a better option. Myself? I can do most of what I need to do with Macs. So I'll see if existing Macs can cover Windows needs for as long as possible. Then I'm probably going for a Windows machine, NUC or stick computer... not because I want to buy a Windows PC but because clients need me to run Windows natively sometimes and as old Macs conk, the only way is back to having both kinds of computers as TWO SEPARATE computers.

Or maybe Windows ARM picks up a LOT of steam in the next few years, wide adoption and then a Parallels option becomes workable and still in a single box.

Else, I'm starting to think about Mac Mini + Windows NUC/Stick + Screen as some kind of new mobile computer... not an all-in-one-case laptop. Mini & NUC are small and screens are thin. So maybe all that can fit into a laptop-like travel bag? Maybe that becomes the new mobile business person solution to cover both worlds?

I hate the idea of it... but sadly see the tremendous benefit of BOTH major platforms in one case as slipping away more every day. Goodbye Bootcamp- one of the BEST features Apple ever offered for working Mac people.
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I share your pain. My strategy is to hang on to my 16” Intel MBP for as long as feasible, and continue to enjoy the best of both worlds for a while yet. By the time I’m ready for a new MBP, I suspect that the Parallel/Fusion and WoA will have matured. With such incredible processor speed improvements we’ve seen today, running x86/x64 under emulation in a WoA VM may yet be a workable solution. I would not take a bet that it won’t. And as a fallback, I’m keeping a NUC/Stick option in reserve.
 
pdoherty said:
How do you get extra screen real estate by invading part of the display area with a notch?
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Let's use the 16" as an example. The resolution of the display is 3456x2234, a 15.47:10 ratio. That's relevant because the usual MBP display is 16:10 which with the same horizontal resolution would be 3456x2160. Those extra 74 vertical pixels are in the notch space. Thus the space to the left and right of the notch is extra screen real estate relatively speaking.
 
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baryon said:
Let me tell you where HDMI makes sense: You're going to hold a presentation at work, at school, at university, or anywhere, and you want to plug in your computer to the local projector or large TV, via HDMI. Then you remember that you left the dongle at home. So for lots of people the lack of HDMI meant that forgetting the dongle caused a huge headache on a daily basis. That's why I hated mini displayport too, I kept having to carry a stupid mini displayport to HDMI adapter to class.
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Yeah, and my videographer friends really like its presence. I've been carrying adapters with my Mac laptops for so long... I never forget them. They're part of my load out. This was a thing before Mini DisplayPort too. My aluminum PowerBook and my Core 2 Duo MacBook both had mini-DVI. That was even worse than Mini DisplayPort!

I think my biggest issue is one that's probably not really any issue. The physical location implies we lost a Thunderbolt 4 port for HDMI. Thinking about the odd implementation on the M1 machines (only 2 ports, limited screens, Thunderbolt 3/USB 4), they probably only support three ports. There's no reason to think in these machines space is at such a premium that this was an either/or proposition. I don't mind the presence of a port per se, it was the idea that something far more useful was removed as a result and I just don't think that's the case after reading.
 
Stella said:
No, your right, one company doesn't. However, if Apple's research suggests that most ( 50% and over ) people use HDMI, then that's what happen will provide.

You still haven't answered "what is a Pro", since you seem to think that USB-C is "Pro". The vast majority of monitors have HDMI connections. HDMI 2 has recently come out, that doesn't make existing laptops that have HDMI obsolete, they are still useable with existing and HDMI 1.4 laptops, it's backwards compatible.
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Missed that, my apology. Most of the pro connection is USB-C. Unfortunately, HDMI 2.0 doesn't support 8k.
 
JGIGS said:
Remember Apple is very much a image fashion brand. Yes, those who just care about performance should be stoked. But lots of people just buy them based on how they look.
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Heh and 80-90% could get by on the M1 MacBook air! I have that and it rocks. Sure I wouldn't mind more power for logic and more ports, But this thing kills most laptops and the battery last for ever. Not sure I'm going to rush to upgrade.
 
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64GB only available on the M1 Max and in NZ it's NZD700 to upgrade from 32GB to 64GB. Interestingly the M1 Pro ships with 16GB and costs NZD700 to upgrade to 32GB. Why is the cost of RAM twice as expensive on the M1 Pro?
 
is it so important for you guys to have 1080p selfie camera?

i would have preferred no notch and stay on 720p or even less if necessary.
 
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Zdigital2015 said:
For most users, the built in SD Card slot will be more than adequate. For those in demanding pro workflows, they’ll simply buy or use an SD Card reader they already own or not care since they use CFast or something proprietary. Video being run out to an Atomos ends up on an SSD, so no worries there since there is now an extra TB4 port for offloading video.
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For people using SD they can plug their camera directly into this machine with the supplied USB-c cable and transfer quicker than the built in reader. I’ll also remind you that SD, CF, CFast, and CF express are all standards and not one of them is more proprietary than the other. We also lost one TB3 port for this so if I buy thug machine I have to unplug something to use two card readers.
 
LonestarOne said:
Oh, no, the full screen video will be “obscured” by the notch. Clearly, it is better to have that part of the video obscured by the bezel instead.
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Yes, I'd rather have unobstructed view of the content on my screen than having to constantly look at a black strip housing the webcam. It's a super dumb decision on Apple's part, that's my opinion but you're free to have yours, thank you.
 
Cesar Battistini said:
The fact that people say that a notch on the MENUBAR ruins such an advanced system is just crazy.

Go for a windows laptop then! With two touchscreens, half the performance a third of the battery. At least it's pretty to show off.
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AND, they sound like a jet taking off!!
 
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