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Couldn’t Xbox game pass release a browser that is Bluetooth capable to connect a controller? This would allow Xbox game pass website to say only those using the Xbox browser can access this service while not actually linking to Xbox game service or game (aka just a general browser with Bluetooth)
Would a browser be powerful enough to handle input and gaming through a controller? Interesting workaround though.
 
Netlix uses a client (= executable code) to show the videos. Streaming games (also xCloud) use a client (= executable code) to show the video stream of games. Essentially both are video players, one more interactive than the other. Even Netflix is more or less interactive (start/stop/rewind etc.). A streaming game is basically an interactive movie with a bit more control (left/right/forward etc.).

So, to answer your question: They all use executable code to show you the streaming content. Even the video format is exactly the same between NetFlix and xCloud. Technically there is almost no difference. Probably you are confusing stand alone games (you have to download those) with streaming games.

To take your analogy one step forward, Netflix is actually more interactive than simple start/stop/rewind because of the Black Mirror episode of Bandersnatch which is a choose your own adventure type movie-game hybrid.
 
If Netflix and Cloud are essentially the same, what is all the fuss about? Just stream a game from Netflix.
It's what we're literally trying to do here, why can Netflix have an app unimpeded that streams all its content but xCloud and Stadia can't?

There isn't one and Apple doesn't want to admit it.

Also a more cheeky response to your question:
 
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To take your analogy one step forward, Netflix is actually more interactive than simple start/stop/rewind because of the Black Mirror episode of Bandersnatch which is a choose your own adventure type movie-game hybrid.

They are doing this with games and not with Netflix because they know games have DLC and micro transactions and they want their 30% on EVERYTHING!
 
This is total BS, how is game streaming any different than Netflix?

Netflix charges you a monthly fee and that’s it. You can’t pay $15 mid movie to enhance your experience.

Game streaming is different. It would allow people to catalog a bunch of games they can play on their phone, not looked at by Apple. Games can have in-app purchases for digital goods that require no effort from the developer, v-bucks in Fortnite for example. That means games like Fortnite could make billions from Apple customers without paying a cent to Apple for hosting, or access to the very customer based Apple built.
 
People need to realize that Apple does this to be fair to every developer. Is Microsoft trustworthy? 100%. Does Microsoft have the correct security in place to not have xCloud get hacked? 100%

However, I do not. Therefore, if I want to create a game streaming app like xCloud, and 4 months from now my servers get hacked to serve adult material, that would be very bad news for Apple.
 
The only way I see this working for Xcloud which is free for GamePass ultimate subscribers is to basically have an Xcloud wrapper for each game which you can then sign in with your Microsoft account and then once verified you can play as normal.

It seems like a very messy way to do things, but I guess better than nothing.

That means users could potentially have a bunch of tiny little apps for each game they play, imagine a folder with over 100 game icons in it. Gonna really mess with people who prefer the minimal approach to their phones.

That won't work, apple would consider that a "reader" app and only certain categories like Spotify and Netflix get to build apps that are useless without an account.
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People need to realize that Apple does this to be fair to every developer. Is Microsoft trustworthy? 100%. Does Microsoft have the correct security in place to not have xCloud get hacked? 100%

However, I do not. Therefore, if I want to create a game streaming app like xCloud, and 4 months from now my servers get hacked to serve adult material, that would be very bad news for Apple.

Lol
 
Games can have in-app purchases for digital goods that require no effort from the developer, v-bucks in Fortnite for example. That means games like Fortnite could make billions from Apple customers without paying a cent to Apple for hosting, or access to the very customer based Apple built.
I can do that right now on Amazon video, I can go buy and rent movies to my hearts content, pay Amazon directly in the app completely bypassing Apple all the while. So I don't get this argument.
 
However, I do not. Therefore, if I want to create a game streaming app like xCloud, and 4 months from now my servers get hacked to serve adult material, that would be very bad news for Apple.
Creating a game streaming service is an exercise in insane physical infrastructure and licensing deals, nobody can you just pop up and start one out of the blue without some trust and equity built already.
 
People need to realize that Apple does this to be fair to every developer. Is Microsoft trustworthy? 100%. Does Microsoft have the correct security in place to not have xCloud get hacked? 100%

However, I do not. Therefore, if I want to create a game streaming app like xCloud, and 4 months from now my servers get hacked to serve adult material, that would be very bad news for Apple.

Need anymore straw for your strawman?
 
You may be interacting with other people. Meaning it's an avenue for predatory behavior. It also could involve add-ons and dlc, which is an avenue for predatory behavior. Netflix doesn't have any of this.
It could also prompt for user input, which could be predatory behavior if something malicious slips through.
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Creating a game streaming service is an exercise in insane physical infrastructure and licensing deals, nobody can you just pop up and start one out of the blue without some trust and equity built already.

Just like how Sony stored account's password in plain text? How large companies have gotten hacked before too?
 
It could also prompt for user input, which could be predatory behavior if something malicious slips through.
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Just like how Sony stored account's password in plain text? How large companies have gotten hacked before too?

If you are afraid to go out into the world and worried about your security. Get yourself a bunker, and don't penalize the rest of us who want options.
 
Just like how Sony stored account's password in plain text? How large companies have gotten hacked before too?
And in that situation it's Sony fault through and through.

No one in their right mind, would blame Apple for Sony getting hacked, hell there's PS4 Remote Play on the App Store right now. If I'm remote playing my PS4 on my iPhone right this second I could my account hacked, Apple won't care because it has nothing to do with them, why would they suddenly care now?

See also: Shadow PC or literally the hundreds of Remote Desktop apps on the app store.
 
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If you are afraid to go out into the world and worried about your security. Get yourself a bunker, and don't penalize the rest of us who want options.

Uhhh yes I am concerned about my security and safety? I have guns, I lock my doors, I wear my seatbelt, I use Apple Pay instead of my credit card as my credit cards have been stolen before.
 
And in that situation it's Sony fault through and through.

No one in their right mind, would blame Apple for Sony getting hacked, hell there's PS4 Remote Play on the App Store right now. If I'm remote playing my PS4 on my iPhone right this second I could my account hacked, Apple won't care because it has nothing to do with them, why would they suddenly care now?

See also: Shadow PC or literally the hundreds of Remote Desktop apps on the app store.

People needed third party apps and Apple to implement screen time instead of actually parenting. If a kid were to play games I release on a streaming platform, then it got hacked, things would be very bad.
 
If a kid were to play games I release on a streaming platform, then it got hacked, things would be very bad.
Very bad for you, not Apple.

If YouTube gets hacked right now and every video turned to Porn would it be Apple's fault because you have a YouTube app on your phone? No, it would be Google, the person operating the service.
 
Because while playing a game, you might be forced to pay for a part of that game. A level or something like that.
If you have a Netflix subscription, all the Netflix app does is show you the video. It’s just a video viewer. You don’t watch stranger things episode one, then you get through half of episode two and you have to complete an in app purchase to watch the second half.
Same with YouTube
You’re just streaming. Pausing, fast forwarding, etc are conceptually and technically very similar to the interactions of a streamed game.
 
Very bad for you, not Apple.

If YouTube gets hacked right now and every video turned to Porn would it be Apple's fault because you have a YouTube app on your phone? No, it would be Google, the person operating the service.
People will approach Apple about it yes, to get the app pulled down immediately.
 
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I don’t have a particularly strong view one way or the other on the changes, etc. But, the comparison to Netflix is questionable, I think. Streaming video doesn’t pose nearly the risks to device security that games executing code on device do. Unless the Microsoft streaming games are being executed entirely off device and only rendering on the device, it’s consistent with Apple’s security posture to want to review the code.
 
You’re just streaming. Pausing, fast forwarding, etc are conceptually and technically very similar to the interactions of a streamed game.
No, you pause, fast forward and other actions on a BUFFER - local cache of the video/audio. This is why when you fast forward past the buffer, you need to wait some time as it needs to pull down a new buffer.
 
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