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Apple Updates Entire iPod Family, Bringing Capacity and Performance Bumps to iPod Touch and Video Camera to iPod Nano
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I think it was smart of apple to wait and add a camera. With the zune hd coming out soon, i foresee apples next release to include:
1. A camera
2. OLED screen
3. Radio
4. maybe tegra
And use the camera to 1 up microsoft.
cause right now i would choose the zune hd over this, if i was to update my 1st gen ipod touch. But im going to wait and see what apple does with their next uptade to make a decision.
1. A camera
2. OLED screen
3. Radio
4. maybe tegra
And use the camera to 1 up microsoft.
cause right now i would choose the zune hd over this, if i was to update my 1st gen ipod touch. But im going to wait and see what apple does with their next uptade to make a decision.
What song is in the new iPod nano ad? I posted this in the keynote thread but I think people are more likely to know here/
Re: the updates, the new nano is cool but disappointingly doesn't take pictures. The special edition shuffle is cool, but I can't use my Shure's so what's the point? The new ipod touch is nice at a lower price, but why no camera? iTunes 9 is cool so far, and 3.1 --- can't really tell I'm on it/ The best news of the day is w/o a doubt Jobs!
Re: the updates, the new nano is cool but disappointingly doesn't take pictures. The special edition shuffle is cool, but I can't use my Shure's so what's the point? The new ipod touch is nice at a lower price, but why no camera? iTunes 9 is cool so far, and 3.1 --- can't really tell I'm on it/ The best news of the day is w/o a doubt Jobs!
well, I just finished watching the keynote after spending all day away from the rumor sites (i.e. not wanting to have anything spoil the "surprise"), and little did I realize that the only "surprise" was that Steve Jobs appeared on stage... everything else was downright yawn-worthy, particularly with the lackluster showing in the iPod touch category. while 64GB storage and a faster processor are nice, I'm caught between these and the impressive new lineup of features in the iPod nano- oh wait, except for the fact that it's still a clickwheel iPod... until Apple release a 128 (or at least 64) GB iPod touch with photo/video camera and the additional features (for some reason) only found in the new iPod nano, I'm going to hang on to my hard-earned $400.
my rating of this announcement-
Steve Jobs on stage- 8/10 : the fact that he was up there and appeared to be in at least decent shape was a big enough deal for me, but the other presenters were on the stage for a majority of the time, so I was still a bit disappointed...
iPod updates-
* touch- 4/10 : nothing worth my money in this area...
* shuffle- 4/10 : again, nothing worth my money, though the "special edition" version does look nice...
* classic- 2/10 : just a storage bump, really?
* nano- 8/10 : nice to see a larger screen, camera, and new finish, but the 16GB maximum capacity leaves a lot to be desired...
iTunes 9- 2/10 : after installing and using it for just a few minutes, I already hate the new UI. give me back the simplicity of iTunes 4 or 5 and I'll be happy, until then, it's still a bloated hunk of software... which still isn't offered in a 64-bit version.
overal rating- 5/10 : glad to see Steve back, but there was almost nothing worth my attention in new product announcements, and the remainder of the keynote was a major let-down... over half of it was nothing more than a shameless plug for the App Store/games, and that's at least half an hour I would much rather have spent doing something productive.
here's to hoping Apple release at least something news-worthy before the end of the year, because this latest event fell far short of what I was hoping for/expecting...
my rating of this announcement-
Steve Jobs on stage- 8/10 : the fact that he was up there and appeared to be in at least decent shape was a big enough deal for me, but the other presenters were on the stage for a majority of the time, so I was still a bit disappointed...
iPod updates-
* touch- 4/10 : nothing worth my money in this area...
* shuffle- 4/10 : again, nothing worth my money, though the "special edition" version does look nice...
* classic- 2/10 : just a storage bump, really?
* nano- 8/10 : nice to see a larger screen, camera, and new finish, but the 16GB maximum capacity leaves a lot to be desired...
iTunes 9- 2/10 : after installing and using it for just a few minutes, I already hate the new UI. give me back the simplicity of iTunes 4 or 5 and I'll be happy, until then, it's still a bloated hunk of software... which still isn't offered in a 64-bit version.
overal rating- 5/10 : glad to see Steve back, but there was almost nothing worth my attention in new product announcements, and the remainder of the keynote was a major let-down... over half of it was nothing more than a shameless plug for the App Store/games, and that's at least half an hour I would much rather have spent doing something productive.
here's to hoping Apple release at least something news-worthy before the end of the year, because this latest event fell far short of what I was hoping for/expecting...
This makes it really easy to pick my new ipod as soon as I buy a new Mac-hey, Apple, you going to increase the base RAM to 2Gb on the Mini any time soon?. The Nano is the obvious choice with the camera (can it also take photos?) and FM Tuner. Oops, I see it doesn't take pictures, how amazingly stupid is that!?
The other updates were beyond lame.
The other updates were beyond lame.
Why would anyone vote against a useful feature like a camera? That doesn't make any sense at all. It's not like they were going to add feces colorometer or something. This is a camera, something most people would use, and the way they tout the Touch being Wi-Fi and connected with apps like Flickr and Facebook, it only makes PERFECT sense to have a camera.
They didn't do it because of the nano. oh well.
No photos. Pogue had an interview with Jobs that said that the hardware to give a good auto-focus, high resolution still imaging camera to the nano was too thick for the device.
It also said that the touch is now a gaming device, as that is what customers said they thought of it as. ******** if you ask me...
I'm glad I picked up my 2nd gen touch right after last year's event, because the expected capacity bump would not have been worth the wait. I don't care if the new touch is faster, it doesn't need to play crysis...
No, they didn't do it because of the iPhone. It would make the touch just a proper bluetooth stack away (and GPS) from being an iPhone.
I've been tempted in the past to just by a used iPhone off ebay and not get a contract for it...
I'm in disbelief they finally added built in FM. Wow, after waiting this long... then again, they did discontinue the Radio Remote recently that was the only option for FM radio on an iPod. I really like the price and features the nano has gotten. I am still happy with my 2 GB silver 2G nano though.
A zzZune? Really?
As a pure media device I guess I can see the comparison. But do people really view the zzZune HD as a platform, as the Touch is? Not trying to answer my own question: really interested in whether or not I'm missing the point here. To me, the value of the Touch is in the apps, just as Jobs intended it to be. Is that the right way to view it?
As a pure media device I guess I can see the comparison. But do people really view the zzZune HD as a platform, as the Touch is? Not trying to answer my own question: really interested in whether or not I'm missing the point here. To me, the value of the Touch is in the apps, just as Jobs intended it to be. Is that the right way to view it?
People that want to whine post reactions...those of us who couldn't care less don't tend to bother.
I call Apple greed on this one. Not wanting to cannibalizing the iPhone sales over giving customers the innovation they want... which was what Apple was originally created for!
They've dropped the 16GB to make customers who think the 8GB is too wimpy, upgrade to the 32GB.
Call me jaded, but who wants to bet AT&T had a say in nixing the camera/mic?
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Millions of iPhones, and indeed Touches, sold worldwide, and you think AT+T had a decision changing say? There's a whole big world out there, beyond America.
ipodtouch-user, you joined on September 9th, with that username, solely to post 32 responses in the one thread?
Toys, pram, much?
Why? Have you listened to that crud lately?
Because I have no desire for a camera, and an aversion to feature bloat.
That depends on where you live? In some areas the radio is actually fairly decent. Then again at my gym if you want to watch what playing on the TV then you have use FM reception to listen to it. So FM can come in handy.
50% Faster x2 the Storage?
Those are impressive and not lame. The iPhone has a camera and gps, if you need it, just go that route instead of touch. It would be a huge upgrade over the crappy flip phone your currently carrying in your pocket!
The iPod nano is near perfect. I don't want some cheezy effects. They're totally useless. Give me a feature to take photos. Even if at 640x480 I don't care.
Some ppl might say, oh, you're gonna complain to apple that the camera is ***** because it takes only 640x480 pictures. No. At least with that than nothing. A software update should do. But that depends on apple which I highly doubt, perhaps until the next nano with a better camera resolution.
The Nike+ chip should be made even cheaper... looks good. I really don't want to run with my brick iPhone. FM radio is a ++++++ because now that I can listen to the radio in the morning. Just like what apple has said on the iPod page.
Some ppl might say, oh, you're gonna complain to apple that the camera is ***** because it takes only 640x480 pictures. No. At least with that than nothing. A software update should do. But that depends on apple which I highly doubt, perhaps until the next nano with a better camera resolution.
The Nike+ chip should be made even cheaper... looks good. I really don't want to run with my brick iPhone. FM radio is a ++++++ because now that I can listen to the radio in the morning. Just like what apple has said on the iPod page.
I agree! The biggest joke was that the FM tuner is only available on the nano. All of the ipods are music players first. The FM tuner should be on all the devices. That was a huge disappointment and I hope they had some hardware already in the ipod touch where this can be fixed with a software update.
Camera on an iPod Touch makes no sense to me. I don't want to pay extra to carry around a mediocre camera when most people already have mediocre cameras on their phones.
Legacy versus reality
Uh, no. Why are so many people confused about legacy devices and networks? Analog voice network goes back decades but it is just an application on a modern network. Fax modems were important for economic, legacy reasons in the 90's but the important function was connectivity to the internet. What remains today is connectivity to the internet while fax functionality is small and diminishing. Like telex it will eventually vanish. Fax is replaced by more capable digital image applications tailored to specific needs rather than the scanned image fits all mindset.
Apple needed to treat voice telephony and existing cellphone networks special in order to be in the game as the transition occurs, hence the iPhone. But there is no real future in transporting the legacy voice network with all its illogical pricing and monopoly structure to the digital network as it evolves (text message bits priced like gold versus the price of audio bits and video bits). That is why Apple also makes the iPod touch which doesn't include the extraneous baggage. It is not that there won't be voice communication over the internet. But it will be accomplished with innovative and more capable apps rather than a digital carbon copy of the legacy analog infrastructure.
Uh, no. Why are so many people confused about legacy devices and networks? Analog voice network goes back decades but it is just an application on a modern network. Fax modems were important for economic, legacy reasons in the 90's but the important function was connectivity to the internet. What remains today is connectivity to the internet while fax functionality is small and diminishing. Like telex it will eventually vanish. Fax is replaced by more capable digital image applications tailored to specific needs rather than the scanned image fits all mindset.
Apple needed to treat voice telephony and existing cellphone networks special in order to be in the game as the transition occurs, hence the iPhone. But there is no real future in transporting the legacy voice network with all its illogical pricing and monopoly structure to the digital network as it evolves (text message bits priced like gold versus the price of audio bits and video bits). That is why Apple also makes the iPod touch which doesn't include the extraneous baggage. It is not that there won't be voice communication over the internet. But it will be accomplished with innovative and more capable apps rather than a digital carbon copy of the legacy analog infrastructure.