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My harddrive is still hosed.


Trying to run disk warrior now......


The thing just sorta makes a chug chug sound....nothing is normal..


What the heck should I do.
 
Anyone know if the update took out iphoneringtonemaker.com afraid to update until i here something. I know makeiphoneringtone is not working but i use iphoneringtonemaker.
 
its fine

Anyone know if the update took out iphoneringtonemaker.com afraid to update until i here something. I know makeiphoneringtone is not working but i use iphoneringtonemaker.


i updated and i use iphoneringtonemaker i did not have any issues with it... synced perfectly...!
 
iTunes 7.4.3 released.

This iTunes update tackles issues with people still enjoying their iPhones.

Apples says this new release will charge you $0.99 not only for a custom ringtone, but will charge an extra $0.99 when ever a phone call is received when using that ringtone.

Ha ha.,, good one!
 
Actually, I am an artist on iTunes Music Store and I make 70 cents per song, but not when so many people are peer sharing [my songs] for free. It may not be a big deal to the superstars making millions, but this is part of my bread and butter; it's how I live, and it does hurt when I see that my albums/songs are being ripped more than they are being bought.

Ummm.. I guess you're too young or naive, but do you not play live?
The record industry is only 100 years old, iTunes 6 years old. How did artists make money for thousands of years before recorded music? By playing live.
It may hurt your feelings that people rip your stuff but you need to go back to basics if recorded music is part of what you depend on to make money. Sorry.

In the words of Steve Jobs...
Steve Jobs said:
We don't believe it's possible to protect digital content...What's new is this amazingly efficient distribution system for stolen property called the Internet -- and no one's gonna shut down the Internet. And it only takes one stolen copy to be on the Internet. And the way we expressed it to them is: Pick one lock -- open every door. It only takes one person to pick a lock. Worst case: Somebody just takes the analog outputs of their CD player and rerecords it -- puts it on the Internet. You'll never stop that. So what you have to do is compete with it."

Compete with it. Play live.
 
Wow, Apple lasted a whole 11 days before having to release an update of iTunes... what next, a fortnight? Or is that wishful thinking...
 
Code is code. If that were the case why did Jobs state that they did move OS people over to the iPhone, in writing the OS for the device as well as the accompanying software to run it on the machine (iTunes)?

Applications or OS, it's all the same when it comes to programming languages and types. Most programmers can easily move from one to the other.

Sorry, but that just doesn't sound right.

Code is code, but use of code is context dependent, testing of code is context dependent. Explain to me how it isn't with respect to applications and operating systems.
 
Ummm.. I guess you're too young or naive, but do you not play live?
The record industry is only 100 years old, iTunes 6 years old. How did artists make money for thousands of years before recorded music? By playing live.
It may hurt your feelings that people rip your stuff but you need to go back to basics if recorded music is part of what you depend on to make money. Sorry.

In the words of Steve Jobs...


Compete with it. Play live.
That is a very naive statement and shows that you lack knowledge of the current state of the music business. There is no money in playing live, bands regularly loose money (unless you are a mega group). The only reason they play live is because they love it, want to connect with the fans, and hope to sell a few songs to them, either on cd or downloads. Not have them stolen by their fans. They have agents and record labels stealing enough. Give them a break. People who steal music are worse than the record labels.
 
That is a very naive statement and shows that you lack knowledge of the current state of the music business. There is no money in playing live, bands regularly loose money (unless you are a mega group). The only reason they play live is because they love it, want to connect with the fans, and hope to sell a few songs to them, either on cd or downloads. Not have them stolen by their fans. They have agents and record labels stealing enough. Give them a break. People who steal music are worse than the record labels.


????????

Thats how you make money. The money comes from live shows and merch.
 
Labels suck.

So, I have some friends who were in a band that kids would recognize. They had to buy their songs back from their label.

Here's the thing: consumers have spoken about how they want to get their music: through iTunes or similar service. They want what they want when they want it. Napster, most famously opened the door and the ubiquity of iTunes made it legal. The labels, and now a major network, have said, "consumer be damned."

The ringtones thing is particularly annoying. How many times do I have to buy the same thing? It's been said before; but bears repeating. What's the difference between my hitting the play button and having a portion of the song play programatically? Revenue streams. Only, what about a recording of myself on the piano I own? What about a composition in any of Apple's own authoring environments? In other words, this ringtone thing is complete BS. It's a crappy move on Apple's part.
 
Stealing music is a phrase invented by music industry.
Sharing music and enjoy them without paying or consent of the artist is the actual words.

Music is something cannot be stolen. The record company and artist always have the song no matter how many people so called "steal" it.
 
That is a very naive statement and shows that you lack knowledge of the current state of the music business. There is no money in playing live, bands regularly loose money (unless you are a mega group). The only reason they play live is because they love it, want to connect with the fans, and hope to sell a few songs to them, either on cd or downloads. Not have them stolen by their fans. They have agents and record labels stealing enough. Give them a break. People who steal music are worse than the record labels.

Wow man, thats not just wrong, but WAY wrong! You must not read the end of year articles stating what bands made for touring....60-70 million isn't very far off these days for larger bands such ass Rolling Stones or hell even Nsync made 75 million one year. You think they make that much on the few points they make on cd sales??? Thats not only wrong, its laughable man. Come on, don't claim to have such a benevolent position on the music industry without at least fact checking.

You can't say there is no money in playing music, then flip around and say well only if you are a mega band. You think they are the only ones making more money on tour than other bands? Unless we are talking about a local band who plays to crowds of 50-100 then yes of course there is no money in touring but thats not the type of groups or the types of music quality we are discussing.
 
I am too scared:

(a) to download the update

(b) WAY too scared to let my iphone (unlocked on rogers in canada and working so fine) ANYWHERE near this thing. (yes, I know its illogical, Spock)

(c) dont care about ringtones anyway, except....

(d) where is the ringtone featured in the iPhone ads? Its not on my iPhone.
 
You don't know what you're talking about.

Code is code. If that were the case why did Jobs state that they did move OS people over to the iPhone, in writing the OS for the device as well as the accompanying software to run it on the machine (iTunes)?

Applications or OS, it's all the same when it comes to programming languages and types. Most programmers can easily move from one to the other.

Languages can be similar or they can be vastly different. Each has their strengths in expressing ideas, much like spoken and written human languages. Don't believe me? Can you read sheet music? If not, why not? If so, take the same song on the sheet music and use English to express exactly (and all) the information on the pages of the sheet music.

OS's are vastly different than Applications. OS's don't have user interfaces. Applications don't have to deal with hardware directly. Optimizations are vastly different in OS's and Applications.

You clearly aren't a developer. If you think you can, write yourself an OS for a Mac or an iPhone using nothing but Applescript. Or Hypercard.
 
I think this has a lot to do with iPhone in the UK. People here are very used to making their own ringtones... I wonder how they'll react when everyone is supposed to have the same one. :eek:

Same with people in the USA. Much to the chagrin of some... :)
 
Stealing music is a phrase invented by music industry.
Sharing music and enjoy them without paying or consent of the artist is the actual words.
Without paying or consent. Gee, what's wrong there...

They have the natural and legal right to create something and sell it under terms and restrictions they decide--you have no natural right to the labor of others and aren't being forced into the agreement by anyone or any specific need. If they say "we'll offer this download for $1" and those terms are recognized as legal, they are legitimately and legally owed $1 for each and every download. If 50,000 people download without paying, they are owed $50,000. It doesn't matter whether the supply is greater than the maximum possible demand.
Music is something cannot be stolen.
Nonsense. Stealing is an act committed by a person, not a crime suffered by a victim.

Taking something that isn't yours to take is stealing. That's the long and the short of it.

You can throw out any arguments you like: that it's not immoral, that you wouldn't have paid for it regardless to they're not "really" losing money, that the labels are mean and they deserve it, or what have you. But own up to the decision: it isn't yours, it's being offered for certain terms, and you're refusing to accept those terms and taking it anyway. That's stealing. Saying otherwise might help you sleep at night, but it doesn't change a thing.
 
Without paying or consent. Gee, what's wrong there...

They have the natural and legal right to create something and sell it under terms and restrictions they decide--you have no natural right to the labor of others and aren't being forced into the agreement by anyone or any specific need. If they say "we'll offer this download for $1" and those terms are recognized as legal, they are legitimately and legally owed $1 for each and every download. If 50,000 people download without paying, they are owed $50,000. It doesn't matter whether the supply is greater than the maximum possible demand.

Nonsense. Stealing is an act committed by a person, not a crime suffered by a victim.

Taking something that isn't yours to take is stealing. That's the long and the short of it.

You can throw out any arguments you like: that it's not immoral, that you wouldn't have paid for it regardless to they're not "really" losing money, that the labels are mean and they deserve it, or what have you. But own up to the decision: it isn't yours, it's being offered for certain terms, and you're refusing to accept those terms and taking it anyway. That's stealing. Saying otherwise might help you sleep at night, but it doesn't change a thing.

I agree with you 100%. This same guy that said "It's okay to share music" is the same guy that would write a book and say "It's not okay to photo copy it and distribute it for free"

It's the same thing. TRULY sharing "back in the day" was giving somebody an album and letting them listen to it for a while. After a week, they would return it and either 1. BUY IT or 2. FORGET ABOUT IT.

If I share a book, I let somebody borrow it, I don't scan it and post it on a website for all to print.

I would even go as far as saying stealing (file sharing) music is worse than stealing a physical book because you probably won't read the book but a couple of times. Most songs stay with you forever.

---------- ON THE OTHER HAND $.99 IS A RIP-OFF TO PAY FOR THE RIGHT TO LISTEN TO A PORTION OF A TUNE I PURCHASED ALREADY. $.01 is too much. It's like charging you extra for the right to listen to the last 30 seconds of a song only, or stopping a song early. TOTAL BS. APPLE SHOULD GO TO HELL FOR THAT.

Just a thought. :D
 
Copying music without paying for it is not right. Way overcharging consumers for music and trying to unfairly control the music industry through monopolistic business practices is at least as equally not right.

As long as the music companies are unethically trying to control the entire music industry then the consumer is justified in taking back control of the music that legally and ethically is theirs.
 
Anyone know if they allow you to specify, whether in menu options or by aliases that iTunes actually #$%^ing recognizes, where to put movies and TV shows? (hahhahahaha dream on)
 
Wow man, thats not just wrong, but WAY wrong! You must not read the end of year articles stating what bands made for touring....60-70 million isn't very far off these days for larger bands such ass Rolling Stones or hell even Nsync made 75 million one year.


True, most of the money comes from concerts. U2 grossed $333 mil with their Vertigo Tour alone. Their album from that year sold around 15 million copies, with *maybe* $1 for each going to the artist. Just some interesting numbers to compare...
 
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