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Apple Updates Mac mini With Double the Storage Capacity in Standard Configurations

8th gen cpu? Thanks apple :/
And people say I whine when I say apple doesn’t have a good computer for programmers (desktop, their mobile options are good)
 
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Sigh, really hoping for more than that when I saw 'Mac Mini updated'. That said, this move isn't that awful... makes the non-upgradeable (at least, easily) and nuttily expensive storage a chunk cheaper at any size point, a real enticement for a lot of people.

Could have done something (again) about the crazy RAM prices too, though.
 
A true upgrade would require Apple to actually spend time and resources. Hopefully this is a stopgap for something bigger next year, but I doubt it.
 
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russell_314 said:
The Mac mini is not user upgradable. Just like the laptops it can be done but it’s at a risk of damaging the hardware if you don’t know what you’re doing.
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... All components of Mac laptops are soldered, and have been since 2016. No one anywhere is "upgrading" them after they're built.

The memory in the 2018 Mac mini is socketed, and while not described as "user upgradable" it's very doable.


xyz01 said:
the CPU is a couple of generations behind now (8th gen, while 10th gen was released some time ago)
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My understanding is that there's still no actual replacement for the 8700B used in the Mac mini.

MauiPa said:
10th generation: i7-10710U
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That's a 15W/1.1GHz CPU. The 8700B is a 65W/3.2GHz CPU.
 
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I was always put off the entry level model due to the 128gb SDD, now it's at 256gb do you think the entry model updated to an i7 is worth getting over the i5 model (they are a similar price now) - ignore the SDD difference I can live with that, I know a few people complained about the i7 in the early days.
 
reallynotnick said:
I mean it's better than nothing, but I was hoping for a little more like using the new AMD 4000 series APUs. At least the storage isn't laughably small anymore and Apple isn't letting it sit for 4 years without any changes. Hopefully a true update comes out later this year.
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I’m not picking on you, this is for everyone out here wishing for s*** that isn’t going to happen.

Apple is not going to move to AMD...let it go!
 
What I really wish Apple made was a egpu device in the same form factor as the Mac mini. I have an egpu with AMD Radeon VII and it so insanely big compared to the Mac mini.
 
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Stephen.R said:
... All components of Mac laptops are soldered, and have been since 2016. No one anywhere is "upgrading" them after they're built.

The memory in the 2018 Mac mini is socketed, and while not described as "user upgradable" it's very doable.



My understanding is that there's still no actual replacement for the 8700B used in the Mac mini.



That's a 15W/1.1GHz CPU. The 8700B is a 65W/3.2GHz CPU.
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I upgraded the RAM on my 2018 Mac mini but I wouldn’t recommend anyone without experience taking apart a laptop to do it. It was doable for me but it made me nervous. I didn’t realize MacBooks went to all soldered on chips. I’m not much of a fan of this but I guess it’s the future
 
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At least 256GB is the base storage now even for the MacbookAir
The Mini is still quite expensive though, the base model is close to EUR 1000 and you have only 8GB of RAM and a i3 CPU...
 
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do they really call it mac mini 2020, or is it speculations? I suspect they just dropped the small configuration and use the same model product numbering. If that's the case, it`s still sad to buy a product that's probably halfway in it`s OS support cycle.

I still appreciate they did something. I think it`s a nice machine apart the bluetooth issues it seems to have.
 
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chinito77 said:
Super disappointing!!! My maxed out mini overheats a lot when trying to drive 4K content to my 55" monitor. That crippled Intel UHD card needs to go!
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Oh really? I was about to buy a mac mini 2018 to drive my 2 4k displays.
Is it really that underpowered? I dont do videoediting or something like that, mostly developing.
 
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Something's missing here...
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Guess we still need an eGPU for the mini.
 
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russell_314 said:
I upgraded the RAM on my 2018 Mac mini but I wouldn’t recommend anyone without experience taking apart a laptop to do it. It was doable for me but it made me nervous. I didn’t realize MacBooks went to all soldered on chips. I’m not much of a fan of this but I guess it’s the future
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I ordered mine from factory with 64GB (no local availability of 32GB DIMMs at the time, and productivity was more valuable than the slightly higher cost), but from what I've seen of the process, it's significantly more involved than upgrading certainly a 2011 era MBP's memory, which was ridiculously easy.

Given the return to slotted DIMMs on the Mac mini, and the release of the slightly thicker MBP16, I hold out a little hope that they'll return to slotted memory for the pro laptops too, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.

iandk said:
Oh really? I was about to buy a mac mini 2018 to drive my 2 4k displays.
Is it really that underpowered? I dont do videoediting or something like that, mostly developing.
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Depends what your expectations are. It is low power compared to a dedicated GPU, definitely, but as a reference: I run 2x 24" 4K screens. At the 'default' scaling (so, looks like 1920x1080p, exactly @2x 'retina mode') it's not a problem, at all, and I would imagine this (or running at full @1x 4k resolution) is the baseline Apple uses to define their "supports up to 3x 4K displays" specification.

If you plan to get the more common, physically larger 4k displays and use them in a non-2x and non-1x mode (i.e. some fractional scaling, like "looks like 2560x1440), it will run one without an issue in my experience. Two will... not be pleasant.

For reference, I have the i7 with 64GB of RAM. I don't think you'd need to max the memory to get the same results, but definitely the amount of memory is significant (the iGPU has no memory of it's own and uses system RAM)

norbinhouston said:
Looks like another 4 years before a real upgrade, like last time.
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What upgrade were you expecting? From what I've seen, there's no 'equivalent' replacement for the CPUs they use yet, and additionally, without a new CPU with a higher memory limit, they can't offer higher memory capacities either.
 
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I was considering buying the Mac Mini 2018 in 2018 but still had my Mac Pro 2009.

I invested a few hundred bucks in the old cheese grater and got this out of it.

Mac Pro 2009 upgraded
Single core 677
Multi core 6974
Cinebench 3375
Metal 51587

Mac Pro 2019 base
Single core 1031
Multi core 8016
Cinebench 3941
Metal 41634

I am very happy with Metal. Affinity suite makes good use of it.


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2009 results are mine. 2019 results are from Geekbench browser and cpumonkey. I bought the Mac Pro in 2009 (8-core 2.26) and upgraded CPUs RAM GPU NVMe in 2020 for a few hundred dollars. See signature 👇

Mac Pro (09) 5,1 2x Intel X5690 48GB+NVME+BT4.0+Sapphire Radeon RX580 8GB+NEC2690wuxi2+CD20" Mojave 10.14.6
 
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