petvas
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I agree. Safari 5.2 is awesome. It is really fast and also looks great. I especially like the new progress bar when loading a page. Love the gradient 🙂
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Apple Updates OS X Mountain Lion Developer Preview to Build 12A206j
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I agree. Safari 5.2 is awesome. It is really fast and also looks great. I especially like the new progress bar when loading a page. Love the gradient 🙂
iOS?
It also wasn't their "model" to charge $29 for Lion last year. Apple can do whatever they want in regards to pricing.
In other words, absolutely nothing relevant apart from iOS and Cloud-driven tweaks. No Finder revamp, no iTunes streamlining, no new file system, no expanded codec media support, no consistent UI, no new server tools. Sad to know. As for speed, Lion is already blazing fast on my iMac...so it seems to me ML should be a free upgrade.
nuckinfutz
macrumors 603
Actually I'm pretty sure there are some significant underpinnings but those who are under NDA that are well versed on some of the lower level stuff are better at keeping their mouth shut.
Finder = I never expected Apple to put much effort behind the finder. Spotlight and Quick look appear to be it.
iTunes - I figure we'll see vastly improved stores this year but not in an OS update.
On thing of interest is that video toolbox framework which I believe was an undocumented API is now available. It's a 64-bit replacement for the former QT compression Manager.
I'm interested in seeing what direction Core Storage has made as well as ARC (app memory management). Core Storage appears to be the vestiges of volume manager. I'm also interested in some of the OpenGL improvements.
Other than iCloud I don't suppose that there will be many larger UI features other than polish. A new filesystem is still probably two revisions away.
I'm hoping that Apple does make ML free if only to get as many people who can run it leveraging iCloud and making iCloud enabled app a no-brainer.
ZacNicholson
macrumors 6502a
topmounter
macrumors 68030
To be fair, I can't say I've been excited about a new version of OSX unless I'm having stability and/or performance issues with the current version and I'm perfectly happy with Lion right now.
The transitions and text previews have been broken for me since beta 2. You could add them to the movie but it froze once exported. But like i say this has been fixed in this update
jonnysods
macrumors G3
This is great news, and exactly what I wanted to hear! I do like Lion, an lot of interface updates and all that. But slow in my opinion, and too many beach balls on my quad MBP 2011 with 16gb RAM.
This "minor" update runs between 1.45 and 1.6 gigs. No point in arguing semantics, whatever you want to call it, Apple has released five versions of 10.8 so far.
Nonsense. They'll release as many DPs as they need to get to a point where they're satisfied with it. The notion that their intention is to always release a fixed number of betas for every OS release is ludicrous. Not to mention that theory only works if you count full installers as releases, and even in that strained case, they've released three already so it's unlikely they'd only have one more full version before release "late summer".
It's much more optimized and has many refinements throughout the OS. If you thought Snow Leopard added "absolutely nothing relevant" you'll likely feel the same way about ML. Personally I thought the many small improvements in 10.6 added up to a huge improvement (and 10.6.8 is still the best OS Apple has shipped), and ML is a comparable update.
There are dozens and dozens of tweaks in ML, most of which haven't been leaked. It's a mistake to assume not much is changed just because you haven't heard much.
And I do hope to see a major iTunes update sooner rather than later but Apple generally tends to release it independently from the OS updates.
lapusan2011
macrumors newbie
File attachment support for iCloud calendars
The new Mountain Lion build adds a very useful feature. Added attachments now sync across all devices via iCloud.
The new Mountain Lion build adds a very useful feature. Added attachments now sync across all devices via iCloud.
MrNomNoms
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It has little to do with being passionate/dispassionate but everything to do with discussing the matters based on evidence and deductive reasoning - either you have a conversation that is based on some sort of grounding or have the conversation turn into a meaningless wankfest.
ARC technically speaking isn't an app memory manager given that it doesn't run in the background - it is a developer centric tool that works as you programme to keep count of your references etc. and does the necessary stuff behind the scene but at run time it runs like a normal application.
As for Core Storage, it actually reminds me very much of what Microsoft is doing with ReFS where at the top layer the applications will see it like any other operating system but changes have been added underneath the file system layer (imagine two layers, the file system then this secondary layer sitting underneath) that will take on features like encryption, checksum verification, auto-defragging etc.
OpenGL looks nice - hopefully it has resulted in the variance Core technologies that rely on OpenGL to have been moved over to OpenGL 3.2 which will hopefully improve overall performance.
In that instance, as that was how Lion 10.7 was developed and as Apple's DC pretty much stated this fact, I suppose I should be just as passionate. However, there are more important things in the world, like dinner... and gym... the economy... taking a dump... yeah, those seem more important. 😉
MrNomNoms
macrumors 65816
Taking a dump is important - it is the one time during the day that I can be left alone and relax in relative comfort and quiet.
VinegarTasters
macrumors 6502
Appalled at quality control.
I am simply appalled at the quality control/usability testing in the software aspect of Apple devices. OSX is no exception.
Lets take a sample...
The dock is the most used area in the whole operating system. You will access it the most in any usage of the OS. Most heavy usage is probably the "Applications" icon, where you can search for applications you've installed, but can't fit onto the dock. Any decent heavy user of OSX will have installed more software, and thus more icons than will fit into that popup Application window. In this case, it should scroll up and down to allow you access to more icons.
Has anyone clicked near the top or bottom (near the corners) of that popup window? I did, multiple times, trying to find a scroll bar to scroll up and down. Apparently, you can't find any scroll bars, because it isn't there! If you use a mouse, how do you initiate scrolling? pointing near that area DOESN't activate the scroll bars. You must use two finger scroll (or scroll wheel) to know that there is more icons near the bottom. If you never do it, it never tells you. And if it never tells you, you never will know about "two finger scrolling".
Even nastier bug... If your application popup is open, if you click near the top of the window and drag down a bit, the whole list of icons disappear! It scrolls down and BAM, no more icons, all gone. Serious bug. If you want to repeat it, simply click on applications icon from the dock, then click on the top of the letter "A" in the word "Applications" from the popup window, and drag down to the bottom of the letter "A". Yep, your whole Applications popup window is now broken. No more icons. I found this bug trying to click and drag the right scroll bar (which is not there) to no avail to scroll down to more icons.
Even worse, I think this bug exists in previous versions of OSX too, not just Mountain Lion. And it will exist in future versions, if they don't fix it.
I have more, but lets keep this limited, or else I will get more flames.
I am simply appalled at the quality control/usability testing in the software aspect of Apple devices. OSX is no exception.
Lets take a sample...
The dock is the most used area in the whole operating system. You will access it the most in any usage of the OS. Most heavy usage is probably the "Applications" icon, where you can search for applications you've installed, but can't fit onto the dock. Any decent heavy user of OSX will have installed more software, and thus more icons than will fit into that popup Application window. In this case, it should scroll up and down to allow you access to more icons.
Has anyone clicked near the top or bottom (near the corners) of that popup window? I did, multiple times, trying to find a scroll bar to scroll up and down. Apparently, you can't find any scroll bars, because it isn't there! If you use a mouse, how do you initiate scrolling? pointing near that area DOESN't activate the scroll bars. You must use two finger scroll (or scroll wheel) to know that there is more icons near the bottom. If you never do it, it never tells you. And if it never tells you, you never will know about "two finger scrolling".
Even nastier bug... If your application popup is open, if you click near the top of the window and drag down a bit, the whole list of icons disappear! It scrolls down and BAM, no more icons, all gone. Serious bug. If you want to repeat it, simply click on applications icon from the dock, then click on the top of the letter "A" in the word "Applications" from the popup window, and drag down to the bottom of the letter "A". Yep, your whole Applications popup window is now broken. No more icons. I found this bug trying to click and drag the right scroll bar (which is not there) to no avail to scroll down to more icons.
Even worse, I think this bug exists in previous versions of OSX too, not just Mountain Lion. And it will exist in future versions, if they don't fix it.
I have more, but lets keep this limited, or else I will get more flames.
Beach balls usually come from slow HD, not the CPU or RAM. Look at the Core 2 Duo Airs with 2 GB RAM fly with their SSDs.
Which means nothing. Before 10.7 there were seven other major releases, and all had a different number of betas before public release. Looking at one previous release doesn't make a pattern.
Who stated what?
Nope, Apple has made it clear that the removal of RSS from both Mail and Safari was intentional. Probably not likely to come back, time to look for a third party RSS app.
PurrBall
macrumors 65816
And Lion is known to have slow I/O and Virtual Memory issues, making HD access occur too frequently and slower than it should.
PurrBall
macrumors 65816
The fact that Apple has mentioned VM improvements in ML, and that disabling VM causes noticeable improvements should mean something.
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
Isn't it quite a "blast from the past" 1980's style that the user should have to do anything relating to virtual memory management?
Oh, never mind. UNIX is from the 1970's....
PurrBall
macrumors 65816
It's really sad how bad it got with Snow Leopard and then Lion. Things are back in check now, hopefully they stay there.