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Apple made this shiny object but all the devs stay away from it
Devs want to make money so why develop for a device that is going to have very little returns on? If Apple ever releases something even close to affordable for the masses I think you will see a huge boom in development for apps.
 
Devs want to make money so why develop for a device that is going to have very little returns on? If Apple ever releases something even close to affordable for the masses I think you will see a huge boom in development for apps.

It depends on the developer. A large well-known developer, likely yes - the return isn't worth it.

A small developer with a killer app will. People forget that roughly 400,000 gen 1 AVPs were sold (while bringing in an extra $1.4 Billion in revenue for Apple).
 
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Development purposes.

If you want better apps, you need better hardware. The M2 can only do so much before you need a better chip. The highly sought-after "killer apps" would undoubtedly become even more impressive with enhanced hardware.

Apple is providing developers with the necessary tools and resources to expand their creative vision beyond the capabilities demonstrated with the M2 model.
Absolutely true that more power will help with more killer apps. I think the price is a bigger barrier. Making a killer app costs time/effort/money and if this is a niche product selling in the 10s or 100s of thousands, that’s a real barrier to get developers onboard (unless it was a passion project or a low volume high revenue niche app). However, should Apple eventually make a mass market product (that’s cheap enough and comfortable enough) that sells millions of units year after year, then there will be more and more apps that make full use of that power.
 
It depends on the developer. A large well-known developer, likely yes - the return isn't worth it.

A small developer with a killer app will. People forget that roughly 400,000 gen 1 AVPs were sold (while bringing in an extra $1.4 Billion in revenue for Apple).
That's laughable considering the amount of R & D they spent developing the device! Also no developers have any interest in developing apps for it.
 
That's laughable considering the amount of R & D they spent developing the device! Also no developers have any interest in developing apps for it.

What does Apple's initial R&D costs have to do with a small developer creating a killer app with the potential of reaching 400,000+ customers?
 
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However, should Apple eventually make a mass market product (that’s cheap enough and comfortable enough) that sells millions of units year after year, then there will be more and more apps that make full use of that power.

This is starting to sound like "eventually AI will be profitable".
 
20B in R&D to sell 1.4B

And I thought Tim was a financial genius...

Then again, Apple TV+ (or Apple TV minus or just Apple TV ...or w/e the hell it's called this week) burns 1B/year for no seeming benefit either.
 
20B in R&D to sell 1.4B

And I thought Tim was a financial genius...

Then again, Apple TV+ (or Apple TV minus or just Apple TV ...or w/e the hell it's called this week) burns 1B/year for no seeming benefit either.

$20 Billion is someone's/google's *guess* as Apple has not published/revealed AVP R&D costs.
 
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So what can’t you do on the old one vs new one? No one is making games that need ray tracing on Vision Pro, there’s zero reasons to get the new one over the last one
 
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Preordered mine. What sold me is the 120hz and 10% more pixels I am hoping it makes the virtual displays sharper and pass through sharper as that was my biggest complaint about the first gen. If its not much better ill return it and buy a used 1st gen for less than 2k
 
It depends on the developer. A large well-known developer, likely yes - the return isn't worth it.

A small developer with a killer app will. People forget that roughly 400,000 gen 1 AVPs were sold (while bringing in an extra $1.4 Billion in revenue for Apple).
Which is less than half of Apple's initial sales projections and barely 7% of its initial $20 billion R&D investment. It's an utter failure, from a purely sales standpoint, as it's a $18.6 billion loss currently.

Perhaps it will become a success sometime far in the future... But I doubt it. Hell, Apple isn't even accepting trade-ins of the original M2 variant, which suggests Apple doesn't really believe in its future all that much either.
 
Preordered mine. What sold me is the 120hz and 10% more pixels I am hoping it makes the virtual displays sharper and pass through sharper as that was my biggest complaint about the first gen. If its not much better ill return it and buy a used 1st gen for less than 2k

Also... The M5 chip offers greater performance along with lower power consumption.
 
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Again you backing a soon to be discontinued project is mind blowing!

Got it. You believe Apple is stupid and doesn't know any better. Despite its 1+ Billion active and repeat customers and being one of the most successful consumer tech companies in the world. Yeah... they're just lucky.
 
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This early, Apple itself needs to develop or fund the development of a "killer app" for the AVP but for whatever reason they won't do that despite the massive R&D costs. All rumors now shift to Apple moving over to smart glasses but who knows how long that will take? Apple will release its first foldable next year when Samsung will be on Gen 8 of theirs. Good thing the iPhone still sells very well.
 
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