Apple Users Underwhelmed by iPhone 13 and Apple Watch Series 7, Survey Shows

I guess the only survey that really counts is sales. If sales are good, will this survey admit it sucks? If sales are bad, we can all agree this survey nailed it
 
I don't think we need a standard port at all, if they want to mandate any form of "standard" phone charging, i'd propose wireless charging as it doesn't involve me plugging unknown random third party junk into my phone which may potentially hack it or blow it up.

USB type C as a "standard" is a total disaster, it's a mess of different power delivery capacities, protocol support and bandwidth capacities. Both in terms of the ports and the cables themselves.

The ports may be physically compatible, but that sure as hell doesn't mean it will actually work with your device.
 
GuruZac said:
The only people who find the 13 Pro a modest upgrade don’t own a 13 Pro. It’s a much larger leap from the 12 Pro than the 12 Pro was from the 11 Pro which nobody complained about. Seems like some people think exterior design changes make for an ‘exciting’ upgrade. Meanwhile, everything that actually matters using the device was quite substantially improved in the 13 Pro over the 12 Pro: Display with ProMotion, Battery life, Performance especially with the GPU, and cameras. The 12 Pro didn’t really improve measurably on anything over the 11 Pro other than the 12 Pro Max’s sensor shift stabilizer and a flat edge design.
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Agreed, as someone who has always bought S models, I've valued the under the hood improvements over design changes. 3GS > 4S > 5S > 6S > 13 Pro.

Big camera improvement
Big battery life improvement
Fastest SoC of any phone on the planet
Amazing 120Hz display
Incredible 5G modem with 5G carrier aggregation (and VoNR in the future)
 
Altivec88 said:
I think they didn't for the exact reason you stated. A lot of people would get upset that the lightning devices they have wouldn't work. Once they perfect MagSafe with faster speeds, I believe they are gearing up for no ports on the iPhone. If that is their plan, it makes no sense to switch to USB-C for a couple of years. I know I would be peeved if I was forced to replace my lightning devices with USB-C ones only to have my next phone after that not even have USB-C. So if they are going to make a switch, please only do it once. If they plan to still have an external port for the next decade, then I agree, they need to switch to USB-C quick but again, I don't see it.
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15W Magsafe is more than fast enough. One of my favorite features of the 13 Pro is being able to dump it onto a MagSafe charger easily and have a perfect connection every time.
 
Apple is going run into a problem when any phone is fast enough to do what we do today with phones. Thats where Apple will need the fastest network speeds, biggest screens, longest lasting battery, because the next frontier in phones is turning your phone into your computer. The chips will get fast enough to run entire desktop level operating systems on your phone. Whoever pulls that off the most with the best experience will gain many loyal users. But I guess phones aren't expensive enough yet for such a thing. Maybe when they start at $1,500 they might try something like that. The high end one will be ver $2,000, but it will be a full fledge computer you can dock and use with a keyboard, mouse and monitor. And if Apple doesn't get it right first, someone else will.
 
Time for quality of life improvements

Add the 1mm or whatever it is to the depth and give us and advertise all day battery life for heavy users

Take away the camera bulge

enough emoji gimmicks
 
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a lot of tech for 2021 had to be scaled back do in part to chip and manufacturing limitations. Not to mention 90% of tech was done remotely in 2020 and early 2021
 
reyesmac said:
Apple is going run into a problem when any phone is fast enough to do what we do today with phones. Thats where Apple will need the fastest network speeds, biggest screens, longest lasting battery, because the next frontier in phones is turning your phone into your computer. The chips will get fast enough to run entire desktop level operating systems on your phone. Whoever pulls that off the most with the best experience will gain many loyal users. But I guess phones aren't expensive enough yet for such a thing. Maybe when they start at $1,500 they might try something like that. The high end one will be ver $2,000, but it will be a full fledge computer you can dock and use with a keyboard, mouse and monitor. And if Apple doesn't get it right first, someone else will.
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I disagree with your premise. We didn't make so much progress with wireless technologies only for the iPhone to be tethered to the desk once again. I feel the future of smartphones is AR and wearables, which I believe that Apple is really the only company actually making any inroads in this regard, and perhaps the best positioned to move beyond the smartphone era.

In addition, Apple has successfully pivoted from selling iPhones to selling to people with iPhones.

Even if you are still holding on to an iPhone 7 or 8 and have no desire to upgrade, there's still plenty of ways that Apple can continue to earn from you, from accessories to services to apps. Heck, Apple even gets a cut every time you use Apple Pay.

In this regard, Apple doesn't need its users to keep upgrading ever so often; they just need them to keep using iPhones, and the money will keep flowing in.

If anything, I will go so far as to argue that the average user hanging on to his iPhone for anywhere between 3-4 years is as intended by Apple. When you consider that there are now well over a billion active iPhone users, and Apple is capable of manufacturing only about 200 million iPhones each year, they know the iPhone doesn't need to be good enough to entice everyone to run out and get the latest model. They just need a new model every year for when users feel it is finally time for them to upgrade.

Either way, Apple wins.
 
827538 said:
15W Magsafe is more than fast enough. One of my favorite features of the 13 Pro is being able to dump it onto a MagSafe charger easily and have a perfect connection every time.
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I would like to see it at around 30W. The 13pro max can get to 27W on a cable. Other manufacturers have charging well beyond that, 60W and greater. The gain in charging speed is not linear and diminishes as you go up. So 60W is not twice as fast as 30W but there is definitely a big difference between 30W and 15W. 15W is just a bit to low. 30W would be acceptable to get rid of the cable (in my opinion)
 
My Xs Max still works fine and the battery health is at 100%. The 13 has nicer cameras and better battery life but not enough to spend >$1000.

If the 14 has a notch free design and touch ID (since I fear wearing a mask is going to be the norm going forward) then I'll consider it.
 
I question some of the poll's results (and don't care enough to review its methodology), but count me among those who want USB-C more than any other feature that is commonly rumored/discussed.
 
remmy1234 said:
I’m LOVING my 13 mini. Finally have a powerful small form factor phone. I don’t have big hands and my 11 pro was simply too big. I skipped the 12 mini because I just upgraded the year prior and I didn’t think it was more powerful than the 11 pro
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Small hands here, got used to pro max size and can’t go back. Middle finger to wrist 7” and width of palm 3 1/2” on widest point.


DinkThifferent said:
I am definitely buying the 13 pro max as a replacement for my 8 Plus. The only reason I haven’t bought it yet, is because it is SOLD OUT everywhere.
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you know it’s bad when folks in supply chain tell you they work from dawn to 10pm and, when Verizon is trying to entice you back with the iPhone 12 instead of 13 bc they got little to spare…
 
I think that it's very easy to get tangled up in the individual phone model features, prices, and stuff that the pawn sees, while also forgetting what the whole chessboard looks like.

I'm almost never going to upgrade my phone every year. But that wouldn't necessarily be a show-stopper for me.

No, for me there are too many other things giving me pause right now, and they have very little to do with the iPhone 13 and the specifics of what it offers.

Apple is finding it all too easy of late to conspire with my increasingly oppressive government (as well as with other oppressive governments the world over) to outright violate my rights. And too many of my fellow Apple users seem to be completely oblivious that this could be a possibility.

That's more serious to me than what colors the phone comes in! And y'know, it kind of negates whatever camera features I may stand to gain! Big whoop!

And THEN there's Siri. Yeah, Siri. Apple's recent noises about the reduced importance they assign to Siri actually serves to move Apple farther from me. As a user, Apple is abandoning me and my interests. I still WANT a workable voice assistant in my phone device!

I have spent thousands on Apple devices, accessories, and software. And I so very much wanted to buy my first MBP this year too! I'm the EXACT customer that Apple would want. Specifically, I've been brand and product loyal, I upgrade regularly, and maybe most importantly, able to AFFORD my relationship with Apple. Without financing!

Why, oh why does Apple forsake me?

I'll tell you precisely how to get me to upgrade and stay in this ecosystem. Free information for any who are willing to hear truth.

Kill the snooping programs and advertise that LOUDLY. Admit that you didn't do right by Siri and then make it right by making Siri your pet project for improvement. And advertise that LOUDLY.

It's really simple! In that paragraph above, I haven't said anything about price. I haven't said anything about health apps. I haven't said anything about Apple TV. I care so very little about subscriptions that I avoid pretty much anything that has a sub attached to it, and I've got to believe that the only people left now without subscriptions are those people like myself who have decided not to get them. You've signed up everybody else already, so stop trying so hard to get me too!

So there it is. And no, I won't apologize.
 
There are no lines outside the local store. Not sure if it's because the phones are not selling or because they are out of inventory.

Personally, I was very underwhelmed by this update.
 
They probably asked people who have relatively new iPhones already, so of course it is 'underwhelming'. Who cares? I'm upgrading from an Xs and it's a fantastic update (mainly for the cameras).

The fact that Apple makes phones that people don't want or need to update every year is a GOOD THING. Sheesh.
 
It’s not much of a surprise to be honest, still a bit disappointing to hear though. Expectations and hype tend to live in a world unhampered by perspective, reality and what’s actually possible technologically on a planet going through its second year of a global respiratory pandemic. Things really have gone tits up since Moore’s Law disappeared in the name of marketing…
 
Tony_YYZ said:
I mean isn’t this just a matter of perspective and subjective opinions? For example with myself as an iPhone 11 user, I thought the 13 Pro was amazing and I couldn’t wait to upgrade which I did on day 1.

As a Series 5 watch owner, I’m not impressed by the Series 7 watch. But Someone who has a S0-S4 might find the S7 very enticing.

If you are someone who upgrades every year then sure these are all very incremental upgrades. That doesn’t mean they aren’t giant leaps forwards for people who upgrade every few years or so.
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Well we judge the new iPhone in comparison with the previous one which was around for a year now and available to anyone to upgrade. It’s mostly software features that are enabled in the new phone this year.
 
Why do some people use the term “incremental” like it is unexpected? Isn’t every update to an existing product considered incremental? What would make a product update non-incremental? The size of the increment is relative to the device you are upgrading from, but it is still an increment nonetheless — hence, it is considered incremental.

I think we should declare a moratorium on the use of the term “incremental” until the general public gains a better understanding of what it means and where to appropriately use it.

But maybe I’m asking too much — human intelligence, generally speaking, has increased incrementally since the very beginning.
 
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