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Apple Vision Pro Could Take Four Generations to Reach 'Ideal Form'
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I would be shocked if we saw this tech in our lifetime.
Like I said, this new headset will take about 8 generations before it will be hugely successful. Right now it’s just a expensive prototype project. Once you can put this on like a pair of glasses 👓 and mix in Apple’s Artificial Intelligence then this headset will sell like hotcakes 🥞
Apple owns over 50% of the tablet market but only about 10% of the PC market. They cannot afford to lose PC marketshare because then the pros will all leave them but they can afford to lose tablet marketshare to their own Macs.
Very true. There have been plenty of tablet from factor decides with a more desktop OS and it simply hasn’t been successful. Sure the people who frequent macrumors probably would prefer it but it’s clear the overall market doesn’t particularly want that. Personally I wish you could dual boot an iPad but I get why Apple would never do that.
There's a lot of differences between them. The screen is a huge one.
For me iPad is my primary mobile device, and the only reason why this works is due to Stage Manager.
I don't want iPad to run MacOS. I would like better file management, however.
This 100%. I mean, just because it took the iphone 4 iterations to get there (for the most part) doesn't mean VP will only (or necessarily) take 4 revisions. In a few years we will look back and laugh about the fact that the thing had to be viced onto your head... remember when the iphone had no copy/paste?
Here’s a summary of his “in-depth evaluation”:
- Apple should drop the Solo Knit Band.
- The pass-through cameras aren’t up to snuff.
- The displays sometimes produce blurriness or glare, and the FOV feels like binoculars.
- Eye/hand tracking doesn’t always work, especially in low light or reclined position.
- Battery life is too short, as is the battery cable.
- Even the native apps aren’t alway easy to use with eye-tracking (targets too small).
- General bugginess.
- Mac accessories aren’t visible when working in an Environment (unlike one’s hands).
- Personas are phenomenal and groundbreaking.
- Usability of app launcher and window management isn’t great.
- Surprising lack of native/immersive apps and immersive contents.
- Essentially a prototype at this stage.
Yep. It’s Apple’s own fault if the iPad is struggling to be seen as a Mac replacement.
I don’t think that is or ever was the goal in reality. That was just marketing.
Air fryers and pressure cookers is an insane thing to include in this lmao
Awesome, so if I start saving now, maybe I'll have enough money to buy the 4th generation headset in 2027. 
This is what Apple should have done. Make the headset nice and light and have a larger brick for the battery, computing, fans, etc. Weren't there rumors a year or two ago about using an iPhone for the processing and Wifi 6E for the connection? Not unlike wireless Vive that came out years ago. Maybe they tried it and wasn't good enough. But when this thing can be 4-6 oz on the head we'll see a lot of adoption. Until then it's a tough sell.
The iPad is my main connected device when not working.
I tolerate the watch merely for daily POS transactions and glancing to see who sent a text or email. Otherwise it is useless and unstylish so I wear a different watch.
Exactly. The Vision Pro has no place in my lifestyle. It’s a gimmicky toy/gaming device and I don’t need either and have no motivation to convince myself that I do. In my eyes Apple‘s reputation has suffered greatly and no better than other tech companies.
Contacts will require very little power so the natural body heat generated off our eyes might be enough to power it. Tiny nano batteries could also power contacts for hours or even days. By the time we approach that tech level, there will tech in place that we cannot even imagine right now so I'm not worried.
Apple's secret has always been their conservative view of technology. They never rush to market because they know it will always take longer to perfect an experience than everyone else estimates, including Apple themselves.
We will see a spinoff of AVP in about 5 years but it will be in the form of smaller glasses and use a completely different display technology closer to AR than the current MR or VR of AVP. If they can manufacture a large portion of the glasses from solid state battery, it can take on any shape and literally be the entire frames of the glasses. Then with the right antenna placement you can do all the computing off device and transmit wirelessly. Then all you need to add is the display technology in or just above the lenses. Or they could compute on device for less latency but more weight and heat and less battery life. There are a few ways to go here so it will be exciting to see what they pick and what works. But rest assured, Apple will not do it first, but they have the best chance of doing it best.
That’s not quite true, because two eyes can see more from their respective combined angles than a single camera can capture. Besides the depths, the AI will also have to guess that missing information. It will be an imperfect approximation and will have glitches.
They are tech devices. Goes to larger point about bs tech. Think different!
The iPhone didn't require a 90% reduction in weight for copy/paste to be implemented...
I don’t think it’s feasible. You see how much compute is in this thing and it definitely cannot throughput that over thunderbolt let alone over WiFi
Not every product is going to be right for you specifically. I have no use for a MacPro that doesn’t mean no one does.
I mean sure a pressure cooker is a technology in the same way a wheel is I wouldn’t say there is anything gimmicky about a pressure cooker something that has been around for many decades.
True but it isn't a wearable either is it?
The iPhone 4 is when the iPhone really matured and came into its own. But it was the iPhone 6 that solidified what we know as the ”modern” iPhone. I think Vision Pro is on a similar trajectory. It will mature in 4 generations, but it really won‘t be fully baked for another 2-3 generations after that.
And this is another reason why I don't want one. I don't want to be constantly reminded of emails and texts. I don't want intrusive tech; I want tech that leaves me alone.