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Disagree. Even when they are identical to sunglasses, I'd predict only 5-10% of people would use them.

People keep comparing them to the smartphone, but that's a completely false comparison.

Even when they are like regular glasses, what is there to motivate everyone to get them like everyone got smartphones? And unless 90-95% of people have them and wear them all the time, society will never change to make it inconvenient to not have them (pretty much the reason why a lot of people haven't stopped using smartphones).

Because you can wear glasses while doing other things. A smartphone locks you into the device like a zombie- go to a public space and everybody is staring down at their phones. Its inherently antisocial. Glasses are the opposite, so the tech should move there.
 
Disagree. Even when they are identical to sunglasses, I'd predict only 5-10% of people would use them.

People keep comparing them to the smartphone, but that's a completely false comparison.

Even when they are like regular glasses, what is there to motivate everyone to get them like everyone got smartphones? And unless 90-95% of people have them and wear them all the time, society will never change to make it inconvenient to not have them (pretty much the reason why a lot of people haven't stopped using smartphones).

That's why contact lenses are also being talked about, with one company already very close, although it remains to be seen what applications and uses will be built in. But even if they got this to be the size of regular sunglasses I would think the adoption rate would be much higher than 5-10%, personally I feel it would be closer to 60-90% seeing how smartphones have taken over. Though with that said there would need to be some factors, such as light changing lenses so you can wear them outside and indoors, the ability to completely replace your phone, and obviously killer app/apps, but I would think that even basic stuff like video phone calls and having a huge screen would be enough.
 
Speaking as an owner, there's just not a lot of people that will benefit from a 100" face-worn infinity-monitor. And let's be honest, right now, that's all it is. Sure, I use it daily for that purpose, but I expected a LOT more out of the device... and I don't even mean "out of the box".

I bought one for development purposes, because there are so many cool use-cases for AR/spatial computing... but the AVP is notoriously awful at the single most common and necessary "spatial computing" use-case: image/object recognition and tracking. It clearly has the hardware for it, but it's slow to recognize objects and slow to track them... something even iPhones can do effortlessly. Instead, it takes seconds for the headset to recognize an object and >1s to update tracking location if you move it... assuming you don't move it too fast and just lose tracking entirely.

Apple should not have shipped the AVP in this state. It's of limited utility as a user and as a developer it undermines every single use-case I've dreamed about.
 
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There is no single activity on the Vision Pro or any AR/VR headset that inspires a user to feel they simply cannot accomplish something without their headset. It’s not like a pair of glasses for those with poor eyesight or a wrist watch for telling time or a “smart phone” for a million things we used to use other less versatile devices to accomplish.

Without that feeling of “I just can’t imagine working on this one thing or navigating something or other without my Vision Pro” and without a sub 1K price or amazing and easy to access financing option there’s just no way this or any similar product will take off.
I really don’t understand this point of view. I’m in the UK and desperately waiting for it to be released. For me - the multitasking will be the killer feature.

I run a small family business, and the thought of having all the screens I need to reference from fixed in various points of the room is going to be a game changer for me. I don’t use anything that will put processors through their paces, I just want multiple screens without constantly four finger swiping trying to remember / find the one I’m looking for.

I accept that there is no single use that you would use it over your other devices, but you can’t make blanket statements like that for all users! I personally see this being what I use for most of the work I normally do at my iMac or MacBook.

Give us the UK release already Apple, please!!
 
I've got one and still love it, but if I wasn't a developer I'd probably have returned it. My main usage has been mac screen sharing + other floating apps at the same time. It's great to have a giant screen wherever I want in the house, including laying down on the couch with a screen on the ceiling. Watching movies on it is also great.

Spatial Personas which are completely crazy - that is the experience that is going to sell this device in the future. I am convinced SharePlay was built specifically for this platform. Just being able to feel like you are physically in the same place as another person when they are a in a different country is crazy, this is what is going to change remote work, as it is completely integrated into the system already - nearly any app can be shared.
 
It's an overpriced flop, under $1000 then it would sell ok, but no way in hell is this asking price going to sell in large quantities.
 
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I bought one for development purposes, because there are so many cool use-cases for AR/spatial computing... but the AVP is notoriously awful at the single most common and necessary "spatial computing" use-case: image/object recognition and tracking. It clearly has the hardware for it, but it's slow to recognize objects and slow to track them... something even iPhones can do effortlessly. Instead, it takes seconds for the headset to recognize an object and >1s to update tracking location if you move it... assuming you don't move it too fast and just lose tracking entirely.

So, something that can be fixed/implemented with a software update?
 
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It's woefully underpowered as a VR device, which is where you get die hard usage. AR apps are still in the realm of gimmicks. Besides, all the techcentric folks into VR left Apple long ago, so they are left with casuals to try and build a system around...it's a hard road.
 
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They got their hype. But hype is not success.

Even a Kim cannot convince her fans to buy something that is unfinished and whose unique selling point (the external display) is ugly in reality.

People buy something because they recognize added value. Even if it's just "looking like Kim".
The Vision Pro has no added value compared to the competition.
No, high-quality workmanship is not an argumentative added value in everyday life.

Let's be honest, in all these years, neither Apple fans nor "analysts" have managed to give the reason why you should buy a headset at the high price.

2,000 including tax, then it would be interesting as a TV replacement. But not for 3,600 (plus tax!)

“Looking like Kim” has a different meaning in Asia.
 
Jobs comes back to Apple, releases iMac, iPod, iPhone, iPad, and changes the world forever. Cook takes over and releases Apple Watch and Vision Pro and... *crickets*.

I think Cook is a smart guy, and great at what he does best, but he shouldn't be the leader of a company that literally was at the forefront of global influence. He should step down and let someone like Musk (please pay close attention to the use of the word like before you start rage-typing) take over. The company needs a fierce, bold, creative person in charge who isn't afraid to forge ahead, or step on people's toes. It needs someone with some guts and (no pun intended) vision. Cook is a numbers guy, not a vision guy, and he--very clearly--doesn't have any vision guys on the team to help him, either. He's too soft, too beholden to stockholders and activists.

He needs to go.
 
Wow, it's shocking that a $3500 video-display device with no video input isn't flying off the shelves.
 
Not only is the AVP of limited/gimmicky use but I would bet in long-term use of the thing it would be analogous to the 'Opti-Grab' in the movie The Jerk. There will be and I believe in some cases already are physical negative effects of wearing that 8hrs a day or more.
 
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Not only is the AVP of limited/gimmicky use but I would bet in long-term use of the thing it would be analogous to the 'Opti-Grab' in the movie The Jerk. There will be and I believe in some cases already are physical negative effects of wearing that 8hrs a day or more.
I hope Tim Cook doesn’t get hand cramps from writing so many checks. 🤣
 
Everyone, certainly including Apple, knew this would happen. They even said as much. They put this out so they could learn how people interact with it. Turns out to no surprise, people look like idiots when they're clicking in space, and people don't like looking like idiots.

I don't see a world where folks are wearing googles like this except to do specialized tasks: gaming, drone operations, surgery etc.

We're going to need holograms and holodecks. Help us Obi Wan, you're our only hope.
 
I own one since day one and have a meta quest 1-3, a high powered PC for PCVR, and every major Apple product. Phone Tv m3 max laptop etc.

I’m a huge VR fan and also a creative who makes films and photos for work.

And I wear it maybe once a week.

When I do put it on I sometimes feel “wow this is amazing.” Especially for flight sim and or course movies and as a memory machine for photos and 3D video. It’s really neat for those uses and blows away a quest 3 in quality. And the Q3 isn’t bad itself.

But like all VR it’s a chore to boot up strap on and put on, so 90% of the time… I don’t.

I think it’s an amazing piece of kit. But I would never in a hundred years recommend anyone but developers, movie nuts who live alone in small spaces, or certain very niche users buy this thing even at $1000 with the incredible dearth of any compelling content or apps beyond the launch slate.

It’s also a VR problem not just an Apple problem. VR is just a chore much of the time and uncomfortable… and after a while your eyes get used to the effect and the wow factor goes away.

Apple has a lot of work ahead. Luckily this is all mostly surmountable if they vastly improve the software and incentivize developers.

Otherwise it’ll never be anything but a very expensive heavy content consumption device. That, because it’s so heavy and cumbersome, is not often used
 
By the time this thing looks like fishing goggles with padding around the eyes like a headphone has, AI should have already become the killer app on this thing. But it better let you create your own worlds and content in it too. Otherwise they'll be at the mercy of developers to have any killer apps on it. This thing lives or dies because of what you can do with it. And being able to generate 3d content and environment like one does with pictures and GPT now would make this thing leaps and bounds more useful than it is now. A device that lets you visualize your ideas in 3d would be amazing.
 
Personally it is a great device that just lacks content at this point. I am waiting for version 2.0 and a lower price.
 
It’s time to cancel this project and focus on what is actually important, like reducing the heat when using iPhones outside on hot and humid days.
 
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When Zuckerberg lets his VR OS be installed on third party helmets he will proudly gloat that he is being ‘open’ while Apple is closed.

But when Zuck says open he really means he wants to open you up. And he’s coming for an even younger demographic soon because among his network of friends are child abusers and so are some of Meta’s dirty advertisers.
 
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Imagine having the same technology available for 1/10th of the price.
You'd literally only see people with a headset on, in the streets.

No, you wouldn’t. Apple could give them away for free and you still wouldn’t see very many people wearing them. That’s how unappealing the idea is.
 
I tried it in the store and will say, AVP is incredible when you're actually in it. It is technically impressive on every level, and I can't wait to see where the line goes.

$3,500 is too much, though.

Sure. Everyone loves the demo of most VR hardware. AVP is no different. But liking the demo and actually having an every day USE for it? Two very different things.
 
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