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Still a ridiculous comparison. A large screen doesn’t weigh on your neck or isolate you from the rest of the world, and there are screens above 4k resolution and larger than 100’’, including projectors that can project as large as your wall.

The huge minus for me is only having ONE screen when using MacOS, my workflow requires 2 screens minimum, and even a 3rd one once in a while, heck technically we can say that's 4 screens if I add my smartphone.

100" Oleds are getting cheaper and cheaper, 80" ones are well below the VP in the budget brands/categories, and at least you can enjoy with family and sit back and relax. Certainly each paradigm has its pros and cons such as portability.
 
I think The Verge mentioned this
Nilay talked about blur from motion and noise reduction, which I was expecting, but I don't think he said anything about any kind of spatial distortion, which is immediately obvious with passthrough in other headsets.
 
The first time I saw the AVP case I knew I had seen it somewhere before…

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It's unnecessarily bulky. You could stash your lunch in there and a whole bunch of other stuff. :)

Feels like Apple took criticism of the AirPods Max case too seriously (too minimal, too thin, not protective) and lurched wildly the other way. Personally, I like the Max case: Enough protection and super easy to slip into a full backpack.

But this marshmallow? Yeah, you need to protect a $4K device on the go - but not play football with it.
 
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For 3500 the field of view is much smaller than quest 3 it’s like looking into binoculars the verge said lol that’s terrible and shocking for 3500, get the quest 3 and have better vr experience and bigger field of view so watching movies is nicer, this product will not do well
 
And just to be clear, you can get a 4k projector, a 150" motorized screen, and a decent surround sound system for less than you can spec a AVP. Hell, a Macbook, iPad Pro, iPhone, Apple Watch, and AirPod Pros together can cost less combined than a AVP. AVP is the first big Apple launch I'm skipping since the original iPod.
This is kind of an interesting comment considering people don't seem to believe that 11.5 million pixels per eye in the Vision Pro can produce displays much larger than 100" that would still be in 4K. A lot of 4K projectors use pixel shift which is basically overlaying two 1080p versions of an image to create 4K. CNET's 'Best 2024' 4K projector uses pixel shift. The actual resolution of the projector is only 1920 x 1080.
 
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And what will airlines say about someone wearing a headset that is attached to a cord, in terms of safety?
you’re joking, right?
People wear wired headphones on planes, people plug in their iPhones and iPads on planes, come on now.
There are actual criticisms of this product that can be made, but this is getting ridiculous. VR headsets are nothing new, and wires going from head-mounted devices are also nothing new.
 
Nilay talked about blur from motion and noise reduction, which I was expecting, but I don't think he said anything about any kind of spatial distortion, which is immediately obvious with passthrough in other headsets.
One of the reviews, can't remember which, mentioned barrel distortion on straight lines and edges..
 
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With a FOV that “feels less than the Quest 3”, I would definitely not be interested

One of the biggest immersion killers is insufficient FOV which constantly reminds you of being in a scuba mask.

Headset makers need to make larger FOV devices as time goes on here. It makes a huge difference
 
For 3500 the field of view is much smaller than quest 3 it’s like looking into binoculars the verge said lol that’s terrible and shocking for 3500, get the quest 3 and have better vr experience and bigger field of view so watching movies is nicer, this product will not do well
Can you source that FOV claim for us?
 
Yea I was hoping for a quote as I’m working, I’ll probably be reading these in depth later tonight.


The displays have other limitations: the field of view isn’t huge, and the essential nature of looking at tiny displays through lenses makes that field of view feel even smaller. Apple won’t tell me the exact number, but the Vision Pro’s field of view is certainly smaller than the Quest 3’s 110 horizontal degrees. That means there are fairly large black borders around what you’re seeing, a bit like you’re looking through binoculars.

On top of that, there’s a little bit of distortion and vignetting around the edges of the lenses, and you’ll see some green and pink color fringing at the edges as well, especially in bright environments. All of this makes the usable field of view feel even smaller. If you’re looking at something bright or otherwise high contrast — a white text window floating above a dark desert landscape, for example — you’ll see highlights reflecting in the lenses.
 
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Great product, but incredibly isolating experience. I don’t think humans are designed to use computers that isolate us from the rest of the world.

Remote collaborative work, yes. But how can I easily show my work to a colleague beside me? How am I supposed to watch a movie cuddling with my wife?

Great product, it virtually connects but physically separates. I don’t think we are designed for that.
 
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Isn’t that entirely up to you?
Just because a technology is there doesn’t mean you have to use it…

I'm referring to large companies and their investments and push towards experiences that are described as "very lonely" and "isolating"

Obviously anyone can choose whatever they like, but what these large companies push and invest in very much impacts direction overall
 
Nilay sounds like he's never used a VR device before. Like, he took issue with the straps messing up his hair and the fact that the passthrough camera quality still isn't as good as your eyeballs 🤔
 
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Nilay sounds like he's never used a VR device before. Like, he took issue with the straps messing up his hair and the fact that the passthrough camera quality still isn't as good as your eyeballs...

He's reviewing this in a way that is helpful to people new to all this.
A ton of AVP prospective buyers will fall into this category.

I'm generally critical of The Verge and Nilay, but I think his review was very well done and very fair
 
I love how half the people are saying the reviewers are biased in favor of the device and the other half are saying they are biased against the device.

Almost like it is impossible to just have a mixed review of it.
 
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