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I was told that by another user but I can’t wrap my head around how seeing virtual objects of varying virtual distances with stereo vision can all require the same unchanging depth focus… I guess I’ll find out how when I get my Rift set up again.
But why can’t you close your eyes to relax/refocus them? I seem to be able to do that right now.

You have to look into the distance. Closing your eyes doesn’t work. And the reason it’s a fixed focal length is the fact that you’re looking at a flat screen through a lens. Your brain gets tricked into thinking you’re looking at 3D, but you’re not. It’s still 2D and it’s still all focused at the same distance because that’s how lenses and screens work.
 
Was nice to see all the unboxing videos. The future generations of Vision lineup should perfect it.
 
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Apple should have just worked on this technology in secret and released something really amazing in 5-10 years. I don’t really understand the whole release now and let the product mature thing. It dulls the release, eliminates any future wow factor, and few companies are going to put real effort into apps until it’s used mainstream and worth their time and money.

I don’t know. When the iPhone was released it felt like a product that jumped not 1 but 2 generations. Back then touch screens sucked. The full internet on a phone was a dream. Visual voicemail was a game changer. One device and it felt like magic. It solved our problems.

This is just a product in search of a problem.

Maybe someday. Today…. Meh.

I wonder if working in secret for ten more years in a lab would have been as productive as getting the feedback from 200,000 early adopters that will soon have their hands, er, faces on one? Time will tell. “Fortune favors the bold.” Terence, African-Roman playwright.
 
Apple should have just worked on this technology in secret and released something really amazing in 5-10 years. I don’t really understand the whole release now and let the product mature thing. It dulls the release, eliminates any future wow factor, and few companies are going to put real effort into apps until it’s used mainstream and worth their time and money.

I don’t know. When the iPhone was released it felt like a product that jumped not 1 but 2 generations. Back then touch screens sucked. The full internet on a phone was a dream. Visual voicemail was a game changer. One device and it felt like magic. It solved our problems.

This is just a product in search of a problem.

Maybe someday. Today…. Meh.
Remember last year in the news when this all started off, there were many stories about argument within Apple with somewhat did not want to release it yet as they felt it was not ready, but they were forced to.
 
I wonder if working in secret for ten more years in a lab would have been as productive as getting the feedback from 200,000 early adopters that will soon have their hands, er, faces on one? Time will tell. “Fortune favors the bold.” Terence, African-Roman playwright.
Future iterations will improve said product in one form or another, but the core experience of using one won't really change. This thing comes with 16gb ram and up to 1tb of storage. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.

The iPhone, iPad, even the Apple Watch all received a ton of criticism when they were released, but Apple tends to usually get the core experience right, even if you can tell that there is something missing. For example, the iPad 2 would get cameras and a much better processor and even a retina display subsequently, but the core experience of it being a giant iPod touch has never really changed, and it's what continues to resonate with consumers even today.

I believe the vision pro is ready. The core experience of a near-infinite canvas (eg: stage manager, freeform), the modes of interaction (Face ID), even the ecosystem (TV+, Apple Arcade) are all in place. In hindsight, it's fascinating to see features like Memoji debut, and realise how everyone Apple has done over the years was really just laying the foundation for the vision pro. From TV+ being criticised in 2019 to not really having much content, to it now serving the critical function of supplying much needed spatial content for the vision pro because Netflix won't play ball? Genius.

And this, my friends, is the lesson that Apple keeps teaching, and which others keep ignoring. Everything Apple does leads somewhere, even if it's not immediately apparent today (and it often isn't). Apple plays the long game better than anyone else in the industry. They are in it for the long haul, and you know the Vision Pro will continue to be iterated on relentlessly, and the ecosystem surrounding it will only get better, long after the competition has dropped out of the race because there's no money to be made for them (there's no market for a $3500 android VR headset).
 
Tim doesn’t want to wait another 10 years to retire.
Nail on the head.

The rumours for a while stated it wasn't ready for prime time and Tim was pushing this to release as his Swan song.

What a calamity, no wonder they were so controlling with the early previews, including taking pictures.

They knew it was going to be a joke and mocked for stupid eyes, boring experience and awful personas.

But but but META QUEST PERSONAS!!!!! yeah suck but for $499 who cares, its aimed at gaming, not "spatial computing", trust fund brats and YouTubers 🤣 the cope from the sheep is hilarious.
 
Remember last year in the news when this all started off, there were many stories about argument within Apple with somewhat did not want to release it yet as they felt it was not ready, but they were forced to.
There were members of Apple’s design team that wanted to wait for true AR glasses but who knows if that will ever happen. But this definitely feels like a lot of cool tech put into an over-engineered product that is still searching for a reason to exist. I don’t think watching movies is enough.
 
One reviewer also mentions that because what you see is only as good as the cameras there are issues in low light. In particular with motion blur and noise reduction. They also mention colour gamut. The reviewer estimated the colour gamut is about 54% of the human perceivable colour pallet. For comparison most colour accurate monitors do about 96-98%.
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You can definitely see the difference here… and it is huge.

The AVP colours seems to be running really warm.

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One reviewer also mentions that because what you see is only as good as the cameras there are issues in low light. In particular with motion blur and noise reduction. They also mention colour gamut. The reviewer estimated the colour gamut is about 54% of the human perceivable colour pallet. For comparison most colour accurate monitors do about 96-98%.
No, there are no monitors that cover 96-98% percent of the human perceivable color palette. Vision pro covers 92% of DCI‑P3, while Apple's monitors cover almost 100% of the P3 color space. The P3 color space is about 53.6% of the range of colors humans can perceive.
 
No, there are no monitors that cover 96-98% percent of the human perceivable color palette. Vision pro covers 92% of DCI‑P3, while Apple's monitors cover almost 100% of the P3 color space. The P3 color space is about 53.6% of the range of colors humans can perceive.
Yup, pretty much every color space lops off a huge chunk of the green color space the human eye can see.

 
As I’ve said a few times in these VP threads, I think isolation is about where we put our attention and for how long, not about what device we use. If someone chooses to use the VP as an escape, it’s likely they’re already using their other devices as escapes. I don’t see any reason (except for maybe movies) to think that a socially/mentally healthy person who wants to use the VP to help with productivity and provide some leisure will become socially withdrawn or unstable because of the device itself. It would be because of other factors in their life. So again I hold that devices are not at fault, but just the people who abuse them, and the content companies who prey on addiction.
Totally agree. Isolation involving devices is a choice and has been for years. In work meetings and even socially, some chose to bury their noses in their phones or laptops while paying minimal attention to these around them. Others (commendably) put their phone/laptop down and are present

A slightly different device isn't going to change that. It may actually make it more awkward for self-isolators since there's no way to use a headset surreptitiously.
 
Remember last year in the news when this all started off, there were many stories about argument within Apple with somewhat did not want to release it yet as they felt it was not ready, but they were forced to.
If they had done that with the iPhone, we would have a giant phone with retina displays...running web aps.

They need customer feedback, and lots of it.
 
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Kinda ironic it was sent to YouTube influencers while the avp doesn’t have a YouTube app. Gruber says the web version is not good with too tiny to focus on controls. Netflix.com was ok.

Hey folks buy this says the YouTuber only to lose views later as you buy a device that can’t view YouTube well.

It’s not make or break but this isn’t coming anytime soon.

Just read grubers review. He’s usually the one with some common sense. I liked his enthusiasm.

Both he and Tong had football and basketball going on with avp. But the real excitement will be immersion sports. But without decent YouTube or web support in safari that immersion content will be hard to find.
The internet world doesn't revolve around YouTube.
Who cares about a YouTube app. I don't use it on any of my devices. I just go to their website.
Having an app for every website/service available just creates clutter. I do prefer having apps for essential services only.
 
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