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That's ok. Some of us bought the first generation, AND plan to buy the second and possibly the third generation. It's nice to have products when they're released and enjoy them without waiting until next year.
And some of us aren't made of money.
 
Speaking as someone who has direct experience with high end concierge companies, you are wrong. These clients will buy the Apple watch 2, 3, 4 ,5. Every year and the top end one guaranteed.
You sure about that? We're talking about Apple Watch. It's not something one would show off to others or enjoy for any period of time, unlike a mansion, yacht, jewelry, etc. It has zero redeeming qualities. I'd expect high-end clients to buy high-end stuff. Just not Apple Watches.
 
The WiFi is an interesting point. Now you can take a call on your iPad, even if your iPhone is in a different location, as long as both are connected to the internet. If this is true for the Apple Watch 2 - fantastic!

Edit: Also, now they know customers are satisfied with 18 hours of battery, I guess they can focus on maintaining battery while adding new features. I assume eventually the Watch will work independently of iPhone, enabling non-iPhone owners to use it.
 
I was wondering if anyone else would associate this with Dick Tracy. The wristwatch TV communicator:

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I do! My dream may become a reality in my lifetime.
 
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FaceTime camera would not work. iPhone free technologies would be welcome though, just make sure notifications are kept in sync.
 
(Emphasis mine)

I see your point, but you'll need you're iPhone with you still (probably) to take FaceTime calls anyway, so why not just use that? I'd much rather FaceTime on a 5.5" screen than a ~1.5" one.

Options are good, but you have to draw the line somewhere or it would become overwhelming to use. My opinion is that FaceTime would be wasted on the watch, and I'd rather Apple focus on some other new features. But that's just me, and I can maybe see why some would be different.

Well, you may not have your phone, or it may be a hassle to take it out. Let's say it's in the winter, and you're outside wearing a heavy coat. You have to get inside to get to your phone. That's a hassle. You can miss the call by the time you get it out. Yes, you might keep it in a coat pocket. But then you have to remember to remove it when you get back inside, and it's amazing how many people don't do that.

If you're running, or doing some other thing where you don't want to have your phone, or can't.

But the watch is always available. It's right there.
 
Actually, they would care. Because the handful of ultra-wealthy people I know didn't get wealthy by buying $10k Apple watches, nor would they waste their money on such a useless vanity item. The people who did buy it aren't as rich as you think they are, and will probably be quite pissed off at how short of lifespan Apple Watch will have.

Celebrities and sports stars and tuhaos will be happy to put down another 10k next year :)
 
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Second, what idiot actually thinks Apple wouldn't release a new version of a product within 12-18 months, because you know, <sarcasm> it's not like they do that WITH EVERY OTHER PRODUCT THEY SELL. </sarcasm>[/QUOTE]

Completely agree with you! If you were silly enough to buy a 10k apple product that isn't upgradeable, then you deserve to feel like a dumb ass when the new model comes out.

I really hope 2nd Generations has more health sensors though, that would be kick ass and I would be more inclined to buy one.
 
Man, you really backed me into a corner there. Stellar rebuttal, I surrender. :rolleyes:



Agreed.

sure, definitely smarmier than intended, but really - you'd say that really rich people didn't buy the apple watch but mostly those who can't truly afford it did? and so apple is messing up by planning on releasing releasing a better one in 1 year cause it will anger them? i just don't believe your statement about most rich people not indulging in vanity items. the spectrum of 'rich' doesn't narrow down to those who can't afford the apple watch but buy it anyway, and 'uber rich'. there are more than a few tiers of viable 'wealthy' demographics.

the super-uber rich aren't in high enough numbers for apple to market a consumer product towards. those people just buy the 10K watch out of boredom or mere curiosity, and then could buy 20 of them per year in different styles if they decide it's not too 'tacky' for their tailor-made wardrobes. but as most people point out, they're into actual luxury time-pieces that are worth more than most houses..
 
FaceTime camera would not work. iPhone free technologies would be welcome though, just make sure notifications are kept in sync.

Of course it would work. Even outside these days there are more public WiFi networks around. Even in the NYC subway we're getting more stations with WiFi, and cell service. At some point, you will have this everywhere.
 
Boom - you're $10,000 apple watch edition is already antiquated and worth less (not to be confused with worthless). They really need to make these more like swatches than rolexes... the technology changes too quickly.
 
sure, definitely smarmier than intended, but really - you'd say that really rich people didn't buy the apple watch but mostly those who can't truly afford it did? and so apple is messing up by planning on releasing releasing a better one in 1 year cause it will anger them? i just don't believe your statement about most rich people not indulging in vanity items. the spectrum of 'rich' doesn't narrow down to those who can't afford the apple watch but buy it anyway, and 'uber rich'. there are more than a few tiers of viable 'wealthy' demographics.

the super-uber rich aren't in high enough numbers for apple to market a consumer product towards. those people just buy the 10K watch out of boredom or mere curiosity, and then could buy 20 of them per year in different styles if they decide it's not too 'tacky' for their tailor-made wardrobes.

Yeah, there is that middle eastern billionaire who bought two gold models to put on his dogs front paws. I'm sure most of us have seen that picture.

And $10,000 is cheap for a high end gold watch. The average price is around $25,000.
 
sure, definitely smarmier than intended, but really - you'd say that really rich people didn't buy the apple watch but mostly those who can't truly afford it did? and so apple is messing up by planning on releasing releasing a better one in 1 year cause it will anger them? i just don't believe your statement about most rich people not indulging in vanity items. the spectrum of 'rich' doesn't narrow down to those who can't afford the apple watch but buy it anyway, and 'uber rich'. there are more than a few tiers of viable 'wealthy' demographics.

the super-uber rich aren't in high enough numbers for apple to market a consumer product towards. those people just buy the 10K watch out of curiosity, and then buy 20 of them in different styles if they decide it's not too 'tacky' for their tailor-made wardrobes.
I guess we'll just have to disagree about the type of person actually buying the Edition. I know my suspicions are different than the norm, but it's because I grew up in a country where showing off wealth superficially is more commonplace than the simple fact of rich people owning expensive things.
 
I love my Apple Watch, not only because of what it does, but what it doesn't do. It doesn't have facilities to surf the internet, to watch films, to FaceTime people, because it's just not a great experience.

I can see why a camera may be useful for apps like Snapchat, but seriously, who wants to take a FaceTime call on their watch? Hold your arm up to face-level for 30 seconds and see how it feels, and now imagine talking to someone for minutes like that. Madness.

Hope it offers improvements in other areas as well, as if the main selling point is a camera I for one won't be upgrading.
And how is this not similar to holding your iPhone up at the same level to use FaceTime?
 
I think this is a mistake. What about those people who spent $10K on the first generation Apple Watch? They get obsolete just like that? Apple Watch 2 should come out in 2018. People are still finding about its existence. At the end, it's just a watch, not a smartphone which we need to be buying every now and then.

Then they perhaps were foolish for spending that kind of money on a Gen 1 product. A lot of people stated that they bought cheaper models of the Watch because they knew a newer, better model would be coming along in the near future.
 
I think this is a mistake. What about those people who spent $10K on the first generation Apple Watch? They get obsolete just like that? Apple Watch 2 should come out in 2018. People are still finding about its existence. At the end, it's just a watch, not a smartphone which we need to be buying every now and then.

If you spend $10,000 on a gold watch, it'll tell time until it breaks. It won't gain any features.

If you spend $10,000 on an Apple Watch Edition, it'll do everything it can do on Day 1 until it breaks. It also gains features with software updates.

If you want the technology only, you can buy the Sport. You're paying more money for the gold enclosure, not additional technology. It will still be gold for the rest of your life.

It's funny how people on this forum moan about Apple dropping the 30-pin connector, or a CD drive, or USB ports, yet also consider a tech product from last year "obsolete".
 
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And how is this not similar to holding your iPhone up at the same level to use FaceTime?
I have explained this above, but basically it's to do with the position of your forearm relative to your body. Holding an iPhone/iPad up to face level is fairly easy as it doesn't put much strain on the joint at your elbow, but try doing it with the watch and it's much harder.
 
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I think this is a mistake. What about those people who spent $10K on the first generation Apple Watch? They get obsolete just like that? Apple Watch 2 should come out in 2018. People are still finding about its existence. At the end, it's just a watch, not a smartphone which we need to be buying every now and then.

It's not like the Watch you bought will suddenly not work because a new one comes out. You think Google will not update Android Wear every year? Apple would be foolish to keep the same watch for three years. Most of us always knew that this was like the first iPhone; good enough to get the experience on the market, but from a hardware perspective rather lacking.
 
Yes they are.
I've overwhelmed by the avalanche of evidence you just threw at me. Give me a moment to process it all... :rolleyes:

Until you show me facts (and you can't, just as I can't either) your theory holds no more water than mine.
 
So they'll refresh every year after all?
Makes sense. There are still millions of customers that Apple wants to grab that couldn't quite see the value of the Apple Watch. Upgrading it every year with new features and functionality will only spark new interests.
 
My reaction is a general "fair enough" - happy to stick with my gen1 through till gen3 when hopefully some true killer features will emerge.
 
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