Apple Watch 2 Said to Include Thinner 'One Glass Solution' Display

[Keirasplace]

Basically waterproof isn't waterproof. If I can't lap swim with it, it's not waterproof.

Plenty of people already do it. But, what's the point really, Siri's not working and the touch surface also is not working. Checking the time?
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Still worried about health implications when wearing wifi, Bluetooth, Gps, cellular devices all day long on my skin.

The irony is that a lot of people will use those to monitor their health and sport activities (or even their sleeping habits - don't!) while it's still not clear how it will affect us in the long run.

Staying out in the sun is A LOT more harmfull and we mostly survive it (a few people who abuse get cancer).
Bluetooth is very low energy even compared to WIFI, so not sure why you'd be worried.
There had been 30 years of data now on cell phones and earlier cell phones were way worse than what we have now, and its still not conclusively been proved harmful above background noise of other lifestyle choice influences.

 

[44267547]

I might have to look if you guys don't already know, will this new glass solution still come in two types? Ion-X and Sapphire? I like the Ion glass "look" more but would like to have a stainless body.

This article is only a rumor at this point, but it is likely Apple will keep the Sport model Ion-X Glass and The Stainless model will retain Sapphire display, being the premium is in the Stainless model. The Ion-X Glass has a better color display and better reflectivity in the Sun, while Sapphire is more resistant to scratches.

I had the Sport model at one point and the stainless is worth the upgrade.
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Having cellular is nice, but not at an additional cost of $100+

If cellular is an option, it will be exactly that, an option at a premium, it won't come as a standard. Some might welcome cellular, others may not.

 

[oopsroger]

No gps, no purchase. Cellular connectivity is useless.

 

[44267547]

No gps, no purchase. Cellular connectivity is useless.

GPS will require a much more efficient processor coupled with at least 36-48 Hours of battery. I don't believe we will see GPS by Watch 2. I think Apple will continue to push the health sensors and upgrade the processor/battery, with minor physical characteristics.

 

[vmistery]

I'd like to see some sort of ability to charge the watch from the iPhone. The battery can't be that huge and it means not carrying two chargers around.

 

[rp2011]

I just bought a shiny new AW a couple weeks ago so I'm fine with it not being updated this year.

In fact, I'd prefer if it didn't happen until next year. I don't want any of you trying to upstage me with the newer model.

Yep. It may betray my age, but I remember feeling the same way when i was given the best care with leeches when i was ill, and all of a sudden penicillin was the new thing. Let me enjoy my leeches and you take your fancy curing ointments after I feel good and better

 

[44267547]

I'd like to see some sort of ability to charge the watch from the iPhone. The battery can't be that huge and it means not carrying two chargers around.

I doubt we would see this anytime soon. There would be a drawback on the iPhone's battery not being nearly powerful enough. Also, the Apple Watch charges fast enough where you should not have to bring a charger with you. The inductive charger works really well with the Watch and hopefully will last for years to come.

Maybe we could see some form of wireless charging for the Watch in the future versus relying on the iPhone.

 

[John Mcgregor]

I use a GPS watch for running at this has never ever ever happened to me... And I live in Europe's rainiest capital.

And you missed the point I was making.

 

[Abazigal]

I am not sure having cellular is a dealbreaker for wearables. You will almost always have your cellphone with you anyways, plus not everyone will be willing to spend money on an additional sim card for very limited benefit (basically tethering your wearable to the internet - you are certainly not going to be streaming netflix on it, and Spotify would kill the battery).

 

[44267547]

I have no interest in Apple watch (or any smart watch) in their current form but yeah design wise it really needs to slim down..it looks very bulky.

Bulky? Have you ever seen an Invicta or Omega? The Apple Watch is not even half their size and a large Watch seems to be a preference for a male's watch. 42 MM is average, not large.

 

[thekeyring]

The lack of built-in GPS is still a non-starter for me. GPS chips are so small now, it amazes me the Apple Watch lacks one.

The GPS fucntionality is important to me, as I’m a runner. I would love to have a device I could use during my runs to record my tracks and give me accurate speed and mileage information, without having to lug around my phone.

They mentioned this on an Apple Insider podcast, but apparently GPS alone doesn't give great results unless you're also connected to a mobile network? Way beyond my area of technical expertise so forgive me if I'm misquoting.

Hopefully the AW2 will have GPS - in September it'll be two years since they announced the first one. You think battery tech would have advanced + Apple's ability to make other components smaller would have advanced enough to allow GPS.
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I am not sure having cellular is a dealbreaker for wearables. You will almost always have your cellphone with you anyways, plus not everyone will be willing to spend money on an additional sim card for very limited benefit (basically tethering your wearable to the internet - you are certainly not going to be streaming netflix on it, and Spotify would kill the battery).

I think it's a physiological thing - if Apple Watch requires the iPhone for GPS, then isn't it just a dumb screen with your iPhone doing the smart work? Obviously the answer is "no" but look at how few people were impressed at the quality of the computer Apple managed to put on your wrist.

There's a YouTube video (I can't remember if it's a Kids React or Elders React...) where they're amazed at this tech and say things like "it's from the future!" and then they're told it needs the iPhone to perform a lot of it's functions and are less impressed.

 

[ecommerceedward]

yay only a minor update.

The second-generation Apple Watch will feature "One Glass Solution" (OGS) display technology instead of Glass on Glass (G/G) technology, reports DigiTimes citing information obtained from Apple supplier TPK Holding.

One Glass Solution technology eliminates one of the layers of glass from a traditional G/G display that features two pieces of glass, replacing one layer with a thinner material. Making the switch from G/G, used in the current Apple Watch, to OGS could potentially allow Apple to save a small amount of internal space in the Apple Watch 2 and make slight reductions in the weight of the device.

According to TPK Holding, production of the OGS panels for the second-generation Apple Watch has seen some unexpected technical issues, resulting in low yield rates. It is not clear if this will affect overall production of the second-generation Apple Watch.The Apple Watch 2 is rumored to feature only minor design changes with primarily under-the-hood spec improvements. Cellular connectivity, a faster processor, and an improved battery are possibilities for the device.

As for a launch date, rumors suggest we can expect to see the Apple Watch 2 in the fall of 2016. A release alongside the new iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus is a possibility, and if Apple plans to launch the Apple Watch 2 at that time, it could debut on September 16, 2016, with pre-orders to start on September 9.

Article Link: Apple Watch 2 Said to Include Thinner 'One Glass Solution' Display

 

[BvizioN]

would this require us to purchase the watch screen? maybe 199.99 for the screen? Like iphone 7 without 3.5 jack? more parts=more money concept?

Away to be over dramatic in a typical MacRumors member style!

 

[44267547]

I am suspecting Apple will only renew its Watch lineup every 2-3 Years.

I don't think Apple wants to out date Watches as fast as iPhones because people have spent a fortune on the watches especially the Watch Edition and even the Apple Watch Stainless Steel models etc. I know Apple is all about making money but they don't seem to want to piss off their dedicated fans. Personally speaking, I cannot afford to update my watch as often as my iPhone and I upgrade my iPhone every year....

Your sort of off track here. The second Gen Apple Watch will be updated relatively soon. Apple will most likely update the Watch around every 18 months, really depends on what changes we can expect and how great are they.

Apple does not think about upsetting their fans by a sooner release date on a product, the Apple Watch is likely to be refreshed quicker than say an iMac or MacBook, again, depends on hardware/software gains. Apple refreshes their hardware, I.e..iPad, Apple Watch and iPhone sooner than their other products. The 6th Generation iPod had a refesh last year and it was the first refesh in over two years, so it's based on Apple's timeline, not ours.

You have to remember if someone purchased an Apple Watch Edition and the second Apple Watch Edition debuts 18 months later, this won't stop someone with disposable income from purchasing a second Gen Edition Watch. If someone has the money to spend, they will spend it.

 

[thekeyring]

As of right now I don't see a good reason to buy anyone's watch. There isn't a must have watch only app for any system, battery life isn't spectacular and right now I think all of them need a phone nearby anyway to access most of their functionality. If (when?) someone develops that watch application to die for I'm sure it will seem like an obvious idea, but no one has done it yet.

Two things here regarding "killer features":
Form factor. There were other ways to play music before iPod, and obviously a MacBook could do everything the iPad could do. Glancing at your wrist for a moment to check an incoming call, etc.

Health and fitness. It's better to have a device on your wrist, than rely on a heart-rate monitor on your phone. Just see how many people have FitBits etc who also have iPhones.

 

[jadot]

I dunno. I own three apple watches and it's just failed to provide the sort of utility you'd hope for.

For your three arms?
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I am already on apple.com to place a new order for two iPhone 7s as well as a new Apple Watch. Where do I pay for these items now?

I can send you my bank details if you like?

 

[tlinford]

I have waited a long time, but only just got an Apple Watch! I tend to do this: jump in ahead of a new version! Anyway's I am very happy with the watch. I have been using a Garmin device for a year, which is good, but this is much nicer to use and actually looks like a real watch. The lack of a GPS is a bit strange, but given I run,cycle walk with my phone tucked away in either a bag, waist belt or pocket - then the over the wire GPS from the iPhone works really well. For instance - I can use run tracker with or without GPS: leave the phone at home for a short training run, have it if I want to record my route - all information on the wrist.

First Gen iWatch: It is a very clever device and has some compromises but, given power is a concerns - the systems seems to be very thought through indeed.... I wonder if they will try to pack too much into the iWatch 2?

 

[John Mcgregor]

For your three arms?

It's possible.

 

[Nahaz]

Well damn, I just bought a used one. Now you tell me a new one is coming this year. Strange we haven't seen any mock ups yet.

 

[Zirel]

Your rebuttal is to subjectively label the design "fugly". No need to discuss further

I mean...

My rebuttal is much more than it being ugly or pretty, how can I even read my mail on that tiny screen? How can I dictate? How can I use it for payments? How can I use it to make calls? How can I change the bracelets?

 

[newdeal]

I really want to buy an Apple watch but after buying the first iPad and then having to rebuy when the iPad 2 was so much better I am can wait as long as I need to for the second one Mr. Cook. I see no reason why they should be able to make the CPU twice as fast, add GPS, and thin it down some.

 

[robeddie]

I dunno. I own three apple watches and it's just failed to provide the sort of utility you'd hope for.

Which begs the question, why did you buy 3? Wouldn't you buy one and see if you think it's worth a damn before shelling out for all 3?
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Easy pass for me, the first gen does everything I need it to. It's not slow, people are just comparing the speed to their phone. If you want to play games then yes it's slow, but it's not meant for that.

Easy to say that now. Just wait til the AW2 is out, then you'll break down and get it because it's new and shiny and somewhat better.

 

[fischersd]

The iPad Pro 9.7" carries an E-SIM that works well enough. I have to assume moving it to the Watch would be fairly straightforward.

Hmm. I haven't found a teardown of a cellular iPad Pro - any idea how much real estate the e-SIM is going to take?

(remember, this is a tiny system board in the watch - adding anything would be a challenge).

 

[Chupa Chupa]

GPS will require a much more efficient processor coupled with at least 36-48 Hours of battery. I don't believe we will see GPS by Watch 2. I think Apple will continue to push the health sensors and upgrade the processor/battery, with minor physical characteristics.

Nonsense. The Garmin Forerunner 220 has GPS and only 10 hours battery life -- half of the AW. If Apple wanted GPS in the AW surely it could figure that out will it's elite engineering staff, especially compared to that of Garmin's.

And the AW's battery life right now is adequate. It's why Apple made the tweaks in OS3 for the OS to actually be less battery efficient. Every night I put my watch on the charger and it's always 60%+ full after a day's use.

Health sensors are niche add-ons. Everyone can benefit from GPS. Makes zero sense not to include GPS when every other mid-market and higher activity band and sports watch has it as a standard feature. All these other sensors talked about really do not work well at the low end of the market. They are the definition of gimmick as they are not medical grade and can't be at AW's price point.

 

[vegetassj4]

Apple Watch 2, only $2 when you buy a Happy Meal using Pay at participating McDonald's.

Let me get a MacPick2