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It's like when people say the rMB doesnt have longer battery life because thats the best that could fit in the case,
... because it is the best that could fit once you decided that you want a laptop with a certain weight and size. Or probably rather the other way around, the size and weight is the minimum achievable for a chosen battery life.
 
GPS has a a error rate of at least 10 meters in urban settings and takes a while to setup. Why do you need it exactly? Are you lost? You're not getting something more precise than the current watch with the accelerometer once it has been calibrated to you.

Simple, so I don't have to take my phone with me when I go running, hiking, biking or even just taking the dogs for a walk. Apps like Runkeeper can map your route, speed etc. need GPS.

Also, what lousy battery life? Battery life has been reviewed well EVERYWHERE, especially considering its small size. Even the small one (and it is small) gets through the day with 30% left. Many get to the end of the second day on the big watch.

One day battery life doesn't work for my active life style. So I go for an overnight trip and have to bring my charger to use it the next day? Never mind if I go for a weekend trip.

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A lot of people swim with it, so its waterproof enough already even though its only certified to IPX7 (early Garmins where also IPX7 and many people also used them in water).

Except it isn't certified to go swimming with. Just people do doesn't mean it would be covered if damage occurred.

The average size of the large watch is the exact size of the average size of a male watch. It's smaller than any comparable option!

It is much larger and thicker than any of the other watches I own. I found the 38mm too small of screen and really thick for that smaller size, while the 42mm is big and bulky.
 
We're on the same page here - I'm also not impressed with their obsession of thinness over function. I think we've swung too far with the iPhones myself - make it 2mm thicker and give me another day of battery life. :) But, my opinion may be the minority. :)
No matter how thick you make a phone, there will always be a minority that would have liked an even thicker phone (where thickness is correlated with battery life). The art is to pick a compromise between creating a 'want' factor due to thinness and light weight and enough battery life such that you don't loose more customers at the more-battery-life end than you gain at the thinness/coolness end.
 
If cellular is an option, it will be exactly that, an option at a premium, it won't come as a standard. Some might welcome cellular, others may not.
Cellular is already an at least $60/yr premium because you need another data contract (assuming that $5/month is about the cheapest you might get).
 
I've had my Apple Watch since day 1 and to be fair I've got nothing to moan about. Yes it would be nice if it had gps and better battery life but I can get a full days battery out of it since I've been running the watch os3 beta. And even when I'm out running/cycling I have my phone with me. The one thing I would like to see improved is how it handles apps. Sometimes they can be a bit sluggish to load but again that will hopefully come with os3 in September.

No doubt I'll buy a second gen when it comes out though. :)

Its nice to read an honest/unbiased review on the Apple Watch, not just the sophomoric everyday Watch Band and battery life comments. I
Share your appreciations and will be upgrading to Version 2 as well.
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Cellular is already an at least $60/yr premium because you need another data contract (assuming that $5/month is about the cheapest you might get).

I would have zero usage for cellular, which is why it would be an option for the Customer, it won't be the standard.
 
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... because it is the best that could fit once you decided that you want a laptop with a certain weight and size. Or probably rather the other way around, the size and weight is the minimum achievable for a chosen battery life.

Right, and ALL the factors are completly under Apple's control. And they chose thiness over pretty much everything else.
 
The Watch claims to last 18hrs on one charge I think it would be better in making the watch last 24hours then to be bring out a new watch which would be more of a practical idea and would benefit the customer too everyone wants the device to
Last long so you can get home without charging your device through the day and I know I would much prefer that myself then to carry a charger around with me.

It would be more of a key selling point for apple if they made this move then bring out another watch at the end of the
Having a watch with better battery life is going to draw in more customers bring out gps to the watch camera is not
Really a key selling point of coarse it going to drain the watch a lot more quicker with the gps inside the device
But that hasn't solved the most important point of the battery life.
 
I keep seeing "Apple" and "minor changes" paired together quite often lately.

Version 2 of the Watch will not be a complete overhaul. Most likely some internal/external improvements. Any major changes would most likely be Version 3 or 4. If anything, version 2 might have additional casing options, S2 Chip, possible Cellular, battery and it could be thinner. That is not usually Apple's pattern to completely change the product, at least considering how the Watch bands adapt.
 
Are they experimenting? In order to use (OGS) like displays in an iPhone just like they got OLED screen first.
 
I could live without the crown. I don't think it's that great.

I personally watch a device that will track my sleep (without me having to tell it I'm going to sleep), and enough battery that I can leave it on to track sleep. I currently wear an Apple Watch and Fitbit (separate arms) which is really dumb looking I'm sure. I just want it to track my sleep and wake me up every morning so it doesn't disturb my girlfriend.
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I think sharing the numbers could hurt and help them with investors. It would help obviously on good quarters but then a drop in sales could make it prematurely look like a flop. I'm not sure of the first iPhone, but I feel like it took around 3 years to see one or two in passing. I see several people day to day with an Apple Watch, but to your point, that's not measurable on a world scale.
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Well it's dumb of him to say that. It maybe was a few years ago with what they wanted to put into it. Look at laptops today compared to 10-15 years ago, people thought they couldn't get thinner.

I don't care to wear the watch swimming...I would like to keep it on to shower. Then again, I guess the batter has to be better before that. As I said in another post, I wear the Fitbit 24/5 before charging and an Apple Watch during the day.
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Out of curiosity, does anyone wear it in the shower?

When they released it, Tim Cook said that he wears it in the shower.
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There are many many YouTube videos with people swimming with the watch. I wash mine under running water every day, it has been in the lake completely underwater. Can you dive 200 feet with it? Of course not. Swim laps, Yes. Shower, yes...

Tim Cook said it from the beginning that he wears it in the shower
 
If the next gen Apple Watch is thinner, how will the crown size change? It is small enough as it is.
 
Gonna be an expensive September. All I want from AW2 is speed, more independence and better battery life.
Speed you might get . The battery life is fine on the current model, thou it will be thinner so battery life benefits will not be huge, new watch OS looks to fix the speed issues anyway
 



The second-generation Apple Watch will feature "One Glass Solution" (OGS) display technology instead of Glass on Glass (G/G) technology, reports DigiTimes citing information obtained from soon-to-be-former Apple supplier, TPK Holding.


Fixed that for you.
 
Out of curiosity, does anyone wear it in the shower?
Not regularly, but every now and then. And I wore it during vacation while in the pool.

It's basically water-resistant not waterproof
*shrug* If that's the correct technical term ... As long as I can wear it in the pool and under the shower and don't have to worry about it becoming wet during rain or household work, it's sufficient for me.
 
I was an early adopter of the AW and I have been completely satisfied with my purchase. Although, I think there was somewhat of a rush to market so that people thought Apple was staying in the game, the upcoming software update will put the AW where it needs to be at this time. I know that many want more out of the AW, I think there will still be limitations, which eventually may be overcome.
Personally for me:
Don't care about GPS. Could be huge battery drain.
Freedom from iPhone. I always have my phone with me. The ability to not have to get my phone out of my pocket every time there is a notification or email is a plus for me.
Battery Life. Has been fine for me. Put it on about 8 in the morning and take it off about 9 in the evening. Still with at least 60% left.Yes, I do get a fair amount of notifications and use for other reasons.
Sensors. Only so much Apple can do without getting involved with more FDA approval. The heart rate monitor for me fits my needs.
Watch Size. Watch fits just fine on my wrist. I have no problem with the size. Ive's obsession with thin is getting old

Just my personal 2 cents.......

So as you are totally happy with the Apple watch as it is, you are saying you won't be changing to a newer model as you are perfectly satisfied and have no need for any of the possible changed you mentioned?
 
Not regularly, but every now and then. And I wore it during vacation while in the pool.


*shrug* If that's the correct technical term ... As long as I can wear it in the pool and under the shower and don't have to worry about it becoming wet during rain or household work, it's sufficient for me.

Until it's out of warranty, then you should worry. Apple has no choice but to replace it for water ingress now, as they will have no idea that you used it against recommendations. But once the warranty expires it's all on you, and the damage may have already been done -- i.e. Weakened seals and adhesives.
 
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