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Not buying until has camera.
For capturing all sorts of photos on the go when you're without your phone.

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I don't think that situation has occurred once since I received my day one Apple Watch. If I am going somewhere I'll take a picture, I will definitely have my phone with me.
 
I guess all the cool things come later. OLED iphone 2017. LTE watch 2017. OLED ipad 2018. 4k apple tv? not this year. This is a good year to ignore Apple and save some money. Hopefully more do the same and puts some pressure on Apple to refocus.
 



Apple plans to announce new Apple Watch models this fall with improved health tracking and GPS chips, according to a new Bloomberg report that confirms previous rumors we've heard about the Apple Watch 2.

The upcoming Apple Watch 2 will not, however, feature cellular connectivity to make it less dependent on the iPhone, as Apple has not been able to compensate for the extra battery life that a cellular connection consumes.

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Apple is researching low-power cellular chips for future versions of the Apple Watch, but has been unable to make it work for 2016. The company's "ultimate goal" for the Apple Watch is to decouple it from the iPhone, but technology will need to improve before it is able to do so. LTE connectivity and significant Apple Watch design changes are not expected before 2017.

The addition of a GPS chip, something planned for the next-generation Apple Watch, will allow the device to more accurately determine a user's location for better fitness and health tracking capabilities along with improved navigation. Previous reports have also suggested the Apple Watch 2 will include a barometer, a higher capacity battery, and improved waterproofing techniques.

Bloomberg's report does not give a specific launch date for the next-generation Apple Watch beyond "fall," but it is possible Apple plans to launch new Apple Watch models alongside the iPhone 7, which is expected to be unveiled at an event that will take place on September 7.

A previous rumor from KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has suggested we will see both a second-generation Apple Watch with the aforementioned new features and an upgraded first-generation Apple Watch with an improved processor and superior waterproofing.
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Article Link: Apple Watch 2 With GPS for Improved Navigation, Fitness Tracking Coming This Fall
Or you could get a Garmin Fenix 3 Sapphire HR, or a Suunto Ambrit 3 with built in GPS and probably many other's. The original and AW2 are awful, plus terrible battery capacity.

I think the Apple Watch 1, 2, 3 are the The Emporers Clothes like many other of their products.

BTW they do make good stuff I currently have iPad Pro 12.9, iPad Mini 3 Retina with Lifeproof case and ball joint as head-up display on my Kayak, iPhone 6S Plus, iPhone 5S as oversees phone and Emergency phone in Lifproof case for Kayak and OWS, plus MacBoom Pro 15" Retina Oct. 2013 with Paralells and Windows 10. All of these are full spec.

Will replace MacBook with Surface Book 2 when it appears. Got Surface Book full spec and Surface Pro 4 for staff and they are the business, watch out Apple your outdated OSX is going to die. No one uses it and the iPad Pro 12.9, and the other one, are not PC replacements..Apple are kidding themselves.

I think we have now entered the post Jobs, Tim Cook era... Perhaps he can help Pepsi market their sugary drinks.
 
Okay, when Apple eventually does it in a neat way, you can come back here and thank me for my forward thinking approach to the future design instead of put up the walls and criticising me.

I'm sure technology will eventually evolve to a point where a decent camera can be fit into the body of a watch, but I don't expect that to happen quite yet.
 
Just look at the diameter of the camera on the iPhone whilst holding it next to the watch.. It would have to be thicker to accommodate it in the body of the watch, especially since the band is attached there as well cutting back even more on available room!
That image is many years old. The camera assembly is small today.
 
GPS is a big improvement, but only for people who run. I only go to the Gym so it's not useful for me.
If they don't add LTE, I hope that it will be 30% thinner. The cpu will consume a lot less battery.
 
Did people really think they were going to add LTE?

Why would Apple do that? The Apple Watch requires an iPhone which means it makes customers stick with iOS rather than switch to Android. They aren't going to make the Apple Watch work independent of the iPhone and just let all those customers leave the much much much more profitable iPhone ecosystem (remember, Apple gets a cut of the monthly fee you pay your cellular provider).
 
This is a good step. With GPS it'll be a self-contained activity/fitness device. They just need to make it a standalone communication device as well by adding a cell connection and then I'll be ready to upgrade.

Too much of a battery drain if they did that.
 
If it doesn't have ANT+/BTLE broadcast for Heartrate. And 5-7day battery life like my Garmin for sleep monitoring.

It's a non-starter as a fitness device.
 
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The Apple Watch is still a PASS no FaceTime camera or standalone features.
Why not incorporate the Sky Hook technology that was in the first iPhone?
That way you have no need for cell connectivity!!!
 
LTE isn't needed in the watch. Throw a low power EDGE chip in there, problem solved. Can get data like scores, etc, no problem. They are over thinking the cell part.

They thought it through and the answer is they can't. AT&T's EDGE network is shutting down end of this year. T-Mobile is doing a partial shutdown to only support M2M, and it will go by 2020. Verizon 1x is going by 2019. None are actively signing up new devices to 2G.

The answer is that there's a special low-power low-cost LTE variant called LTE-M specifically designed for IoT devices. 1 Mbps max, modem cost of $5, designed for crappy small antennas, will run for months on batteries, works with existing LTE infrastructure. This is why LTE is highly likely if they are doing any sort of WWAN connectivity. People generally know what they're doing.
 
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GPS is a big improvement, but only for people who run. I only go to the Gym so it's not useful for me.
If they don't add LTE, I hope that it will be 30% thinner. The cpu will consume a lot less battery.

LTE is highly unlikely. There was a report corroborated by Analyst Brian White stating the Second generation Watch would be 30/40% thinner. This has not been confirmed obviously. White also stated Apple Watch 2 would be released during the Developers conference in June as well, which he was wrong.
 
I am never without my phone or watch, so I don't need an extra data plan for my watch. I suspect this is true for most - they will leave the watch behind before they leave the phone. The GPS is cool but again if you have the phone not sure how much better having it in the watch is. What I wish they would work on is pushing the battery life to a week -- at least. That really is the number one thing that we all want. Everything else I believe is number 2.
 
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I still can't believe how many people still can't understand that the Apple Watch isn't supposed to be an iPhone strapped to your wrist.....

Personally, I would prefer it if they made it even simpler, from a watch to a bracelet.
 
That image is many years old. The camera assembly is small today.
I didn't even look at the picture apart from where the camera was placed.. Then I held my 6+ next to my Apple Watch and looked at the diameter of the camera.. there is simply no room to put it there, the only place that might have room is opposite the digital crown and it makes no sense to put it there..

And whilst camera assemblies are small-ish, they're still pretty substantial to put in the side of the watch if you want an even somewhat decent camera and lens
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The way things look. I'm 99% not upgrading my Apple Watch.

Until it has better apps, watch faces and such. An upgrade doesn't really address areas it can improve for me.
 
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