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That would be a fundamental departure from Apple's business model. A huge reason that they have the reputation for building devices that 'just work' is that they don't try to be everything to everyone. As a result, they can limit the variables in both software and hardware design. Fewer variables means there are fewer ways for unanticipated issues to arise, and voila, 'it just works!'

Opening Apple Watch to function with competitors' devices would represent an abandonment of that (highly successful) business model, in favor of being more like Microsoft or Android. That wouldn't make any sense and it's not going to happen.

Interestingly enough my iPad, iPod, and iPhone all connect to and sync up with my windows PC just fine. My iPad and iPhone also integrate pretty well with my XBONE, PS4, and Chromecast...
 
Well, I can only speak for myself. My only posts about the apple watch on this forum have been information/technical in nature, answering questions, etc., or a response to haters telling us why they don't want a watch.

It's a free country--I'm not saying you can't write "I hate the apple watch" posts--but this is an Apple Watch forum after all, in my mind, for Apple Watch enthusiasts to share tips, tricks, bugs, pre-order wait anxiety, etc.

Coming here to say "The Apple Watch is lame" is like me registering on a Windows Phone site, just to piss people off by saying "Windows Phones suck! I'm never buying one!"

What you post is your prerogative. Just like everyone else. Haters. Yeah, I hate that word, or I should say the misuse of that word. A negative/meh post about the watch isn't an automatic qualifier for hate. To some, the watch isn't appealing. Voicing that opinion is just as valid as a favorable one. Again, if you're looking for an echo chamber MR isn't the place. Appleinsider on the other hand:D

Contrary to what you wrote, this isn't an Apple Watch site. I think maybe you meant an Apple focused forum. Coming here to say the Apple watch is lame simply means someone thinks it's lame. That same person could love iPads, iPhones, and/or Macs. Me, I'm a fan of Apple laptops. Not a fan of iMacs or any AIO for that matter. I like the iPad. iPhone, not so much. It's not an all or nothing proposition.
 
But Kuo,,, Its a first gen.... u don't expect all-u-can-eat in the first gen... if you did, then its got a very short lifecycle.


Seems people like the 42mm.. :D
 
You know what people who come to an Watch article for the sole purpose of saying it's dumb or they don't want one are like? They are like when you are having a great discussion about a tv show and someone feels the need to chime in about how they refuse to have a tv in their house. Or like when you are having a discussion about where to get the best steak in town and a vegan chimes in to tell you meat is murder. Those people feel the need to tell everyone how superior they are and how misguided you are. They are annoying as hell and don't get invited to parties, lol.
 
The watch is plainly very useful. The issue is that most people probably don't spend $350 on a watch so there will be some reluctance to just jump in and buy one. There's going to be a lot of "I don't need that" and "it does everything your phone does." But it's really just about alotting part of people's limited funds for yet another item. But over time, many people and an increasing number of people will realize it's well worth it. It will also probably drop in price to $249 which will help.
 
But here's the thing...those watch brands command those prices because they are, you know, in the watch business and have been forever. They have brand clout in that space and have a craftsmanship selling point that Foxxcon can't replicate. They are also timeless to some extent and won't be obsolete in 2-3 years.

Apple is an electronics company and this should be subject to the price point expectations they've established for their array of gadgets.

Would you have said that in 2007 when the iPhone came out and commanded a slightly premium price?

"Nokia, Blackberry, Palm and Sidekick have brand clout; Apple is a computer and MP3 player company and should be subject to the price point expectations they've established for their array of gadgets."

...Nope, makes no sense.

As to craftsmanship, the Watch does well in comparison with other $400-$800 watches. I've heard nothing but compliments on its build quality, even from reviewers who concluded negatively.

As for the obsolescence canard, you do realize the first-generation Watches will actually continue to work after Tim Cook gets up on stage and announces the Watch 2, don't you? They won't spontaneously cease to operate, nor will they crumble into dust, nor will Apple cease to offer software updates for them. After all, my iPhone 3G still works after 7 years, so why wouldn't a Watch?
 
That would be a fundamental departure from Apple's business model. A huge reason that they have the reputation for building devices that 'just work' is that they don't try to be everything to everyone. As a result, they can limit the variables in both software and hardware design. Fewer variables means there are fewer ways for unanticipated issues to arise, and voila, 'it just works!'

Opening Apple Watch to function with competitors' devices would represent an abandonment of that (highly successful) business model, in favor of being more like Microsoft or Android. That wouldn't make any sense and it's not going to happen.

I don't disagree with your post. But the phrase "it just works" needs to die. It's a misnomer. Everything has a learning curve. And nothing "just works."
 
I would not be surprised to see the stock to take a major hit for this now... The Stock is already undervalued now I am sure it will really become undervalued. :confused:

Why? The fact that people are spending an extra $50 for the 42mm is a good thing. And Apple is struggling to meet demand and they've yet to launch outside a handful of countries. Apple Watch is turning out to be huge for what's considered an iPhone accessory.
 
While I don't think my experience represents the market - I have noticed a lot less 'buzz' around the  Watch than other Apple products. Looking at the Watch section of my local  store there was almost nobody even having a look at them, it took me 3 visits to find somebody having a 1 on 1 with staff about them.

Nobody I know has one, nobody I know wants one. Most of these people are iPhone users and willingly plop money on the counter each year for the new iPhone - the Watch however...

These people love Apple stuff and are attached to the brand, but they're not shifting for the Watch

I'm not downing on the device and it's great that people are enjoying them, but it's clear there's something not quite clicking yet.

Yet.
 
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While I don't think my experience represents the market - I have noticed a lot less 'buzz' around the  Watch than other Apple products. Looking at the Watch section of my local  store there was almost nobody even having a look at them, it took me 3 visits to find somebody having a 1 on 1 with staff about them.

Nobody I know has one, nobody I know wants one. Most of these people are iPhone users and willingly plop money on the counter each year for the new iPhone - the Watch however...

I'm not downing on the device and it's great that people are enjoying them, but it's clear there's something not quite clicking yet.

Yet.

Expectations of Apple have become so high that they expect a Gen 1 product to sell as though its been out for 4 or 5 years. That bubble had to be popped at some point.

The potential with the watch is huge. You can see it. And it will get there. And I think, just like was the case with the first iPhone, the sticker price is a bit shocking for a lot of people compared to the rest of the mainstream regular and smart watches.

But just like now no one thinks twice about getting a $900 phone in 3 or 4 years it will be the same with smart watches. This is only Chapter 1 in the story of the Apple Watch. There is a long way to go yet.

As far as buzz...there are a lot of reasons for that. The economy. Summertime and end of school approaching. Droughts in some places. Forest fires in others. Take your pick but a lot of reality to get in the way of excitement for a consumer product.
 
I think it has more to do with its uselessness.

This is why I now enjoy Macrumors. There's plenty of alternate opinions (like yours) who now balance out the rabid Apple fanboys/girls. The balance of perspectives is refreshing compared to a couple years ago.
 
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While I don't think my experience represents the market - I have noticed a lot less 'buzz' around the  Watch than other Apple products. Looking at the Watch section of my local  store there was almost nobody even having a look at them, it took me 3 visits to find somebody having a 1 on 1 with staff about them.

Nobody I know has one, nobody I know wants one. Most of these people are iPhone users and willingly plop money on the counter each year for the new iPhone - the Watch however...

I'm not downing on the device and it's great that people are enjoying them, but it's clear there's something not quite clicking yet.

Yet.

Your comparing products out for 8 years that sells 200M a year to something that will sell 15M this year. If there was similar buzz, that would make no sense.
 
Uhhh you realize that every Apple product improves over time ... The Apple Watch will be no different .

And this is why I am waiting for one with a built in camera to FT. Then it will be worth the several hundred dollars. Until then, I will not be buying one.
 
My wait is almost over

Ordered in first hour of preorder on the 10th April

42mm Sports with Black Sports Band

Status = Shipped

Tracking : On board with Driver
 
Apple never once said they expected to sell 30 million of these things. Analysts did. And they pulled those numbers out of their behinds. This is new territory and 15 million sold in a market where only 800,000 "other" smartwatches have been sold pretty much EVER is a pretty big victory.

Version 1 of Apple Watch is already good. I can't even imagine what upcoming revisions will be like, and I think sales of this thing are going to explode at some point in the next year or two.
 
No surprise, there just simply isn't a market for wearables at their current price and their current bulkiness. I wore mine out to the bar the other night with some friends and they were all questioning my buy.

The only other person I've seen wearing one so far is this old hippie, quack professor I used to have. So yeah, not surprised at the sales figures.

Personally I don't give a sht what other people think, I buy what I like for myself not for others. Make your own path, following the crowd will never get you anywhere worth going..........
 
good, let it flop. focus on making a computer that is upgradeable and stop being so hostile to enthusiasts.

Really? Software doesn't drive upgrades like it used too, so what would you need to upgrade for, Gaming? Buy a windows PC

Storage? Buy a NAS

No other reason to upgrade for all but the .01% crowd.......

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I think it has more to do with its uselessness.

Really? I seriously doubt you have ever tried it out.....

I bought a 42MM, in three weeks it has fundamentally changed how I use my phone. Its readily apparent that many of you will be dragged kicking and screaming into the watch wearable, its just a matter of time and pressure.

If you use the watch for nothing more than time, messages and mail it will change your view of the usefulness of a phone. When the technology reaches the point that the tether can be cut....its all over for the phone except as an occasional device.
 
When the technology reaches the point that the tether can be cut....its all over for the phone except as an occasional device.

Oh come on. I'm never going to want to browse the net, do shopping, watch a movie on the train etc. on a watch. The screen is too small and keeping your wrist in that position for more than a few seconds gets very uncomfortable.

Not to mention phone calls.
 
I've always thought that the Apple watch should have a super minimal feature set. Just enough to show you text messages, incoming calls, and maybe make apple pay payments. It could then have a long battery life, be super thin, and inexpensive. It could have had a black and white screen for all I care.
 
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