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Apple should either license FirstBeat algorithms or better... design similar ones with same level of accuracy that don't require a chest strap. It baffles me how Apple harps on AW being for health... well after it was clear it failed on selling the AW as fashion... and still it can't, as a standard health feature, calculate VO2max. If find it hilarious that people demand sleep monitors -- like do they really not know if they slept well? and yet VO2max is a real benchmark one can use to find there true fitness level.

It's funny I run out every two years to buy the newest Garmin with the latest analytics just because it's cool. Until Apple does that I have no reason to upgrade my AW Series 0. I don't need a faster process to push out notifications or use ApplePay.
 
Every time apple releases something new everyone always says how it's going to flop and apple always proves them wrong.

New MacBook Pro
iPhone 7
iPad Pro
Apple Watch

And lo and behold they all sold like hotcakes. I wonder why so many supposedly apple fans on here want the company to fail so badly.

As an apple fan well done apple.

Correction: most people on here are not Apple fan. They only come here to stay up to date on Apple stuff and have a chance to complain about everything Apple related. Does that mean all Apple fans are happy? Of course not. We complain too but the majority here are just not Apple fan and come here to bash a Apple and its fans.
 
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Funny how every time a new report or statistic gets published most of the commenters get super defensive. Jeez, relax, nowhere in the article does it say that the Apple Watch isn't good.

I think people on here are commenting on the negative comments being posted...and not one that I have noticed is based on fact...
 
I *want* one, but I'm honestly not sure why. I have three Garmin watches that cover a variety of needs. But the allure of the Apple Watch...

Ah well. I probably have better things to spend my money on.
 
FitBit wins on two main points: Price and battery life.

I would really like an Apple Watch, but one of the key health metrics I want to use it for is sleep tracking. The Apple Watch is useless for that, since its battery doesn't last a full day. I picked up a FitBit Charge 2 for $150, and I love it. Its battery lasts a week, and can charge fully in about an hour.

The Apple Watch packs an impressive amount of technology in a tiny package, but it needs better battery life and a lower price. That's why it's not a mainstream player just yet.
I sleep with my Series 2 on every night. As others have said, a quick charge while I'm taking a shower and maybe a few minutes once a day while I'm at work sitting at a desk, and it's good to go.

I don't run...but I do ride...I have a Rokform case on my 7+ and keep it mounted on my handle bars for my rides (typically almost 2 hours long). I actually prefer this even I could just have my watch. I use Strava and listen to my music through the phone so I don't have to wear headphones while I ride.

When I get messages, the watch will let me know and I can choose to stop and answer or just keep going. It also lets me do separate tracking through the Watch fitness app. Meh...works for me.

But if I was a runner?? Damn...would love a cellular watch with some nice fitness bluetooth in ear headphones.
The Watch plus AirPods combo is great, but this is the one area in which the battery life feels limiting. If I start at 100%, I can maybe barely squeeze in a 2 1/2 hour long run sans iPhone with my Series 2 running GPS and playing music to my AirPods. As it is, I leave behind my iPhone on short runs and take it on long runs. (It's not an issue on long bike rides, because carrying the phone in a back jersey pocket is no bother. And I wouldn't want to be long-ride distances from home without a phone anyway.)
 
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I've never had any interest in having a wrist-based phone as well as a ... phone. A bit of a solution looking for a problem and a bit of Emperors New Clothes waffle and hype .... but those who own them certainly do seem to spout the Company Mantra thereafter. Of course, personally I would never stoop to such levels-having a mind of my own and show an ability to objectify without any preconceived .... hang on a minute... someone's left their Apple Watch on this desk. I think I'll just try it on for size to see what it looks like, that's all. Wait. Something's happening. My thinking processes. They're ... getting ... confused and .... swayed. You know. This Apple Watch. It's really quite funky isn't it? In a chunky kinda way, admittedly. But doesn't it look good? I've started taking my pulse already with it. And my respiration rate. 18 RPM? 5.6 mmol BM. Is that ok too? O2 Sats 99% ... wa Hey! Great! Thanks Apple Watch! You say I should eat now? Fine. I will. Drink something? Get in! I just heard a text alert. I'll just look on my phon.... nope. No need. I've got my Watch. I cannot believe how I manage to do without this thing before. It's just amazing ... oh. Hold on. The owner is coming back. "Yeah, sorry mate. I was just trying on your watch. It's quite phenomenal isn't it? Incredible technology. I'll take it off now thanks. Apple can't do anything wrong with this baby. Come on iPhone 8. Take my money." What's happening now, readers? Suddenly my vision is clearing again. What's that big block of metal on your arm there, mate? Looks, like a divers watch is it? Apple Watch? Nah. Not for me.

THAT is how mind controlling the Apple Watch can be even when just tried on(!). So be careful out there, folks!
 
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The comment about lost wearable leadership is a joke... Any comment about Apple losing leadership in a market they don't plan on entering any time soon, and is in no way comparable to the one they are in, is a joke.

You are comparing sales of the Apple Watch to cheap Xiaomi wearables?
Do these type of posts not get tiring? Every single market share post has these "it's not fair" comments. Completely ignoring who's producing the reports and the reasons for the reports being produced. This one is an overview of the wearables market in it's entirety. That it. The Apple Watch and all smartwatches are categorized as wearables. Just like fitness bands, bracelets, and buttons. They're all wearables. The report indicates that.

If you want to see the smartwatch category broken out separately you have a few choices.
-Go behind the paywall for subcategory breakdowns. Granted, you have really want to see that report to do this.
-Go out and search the internet for what you want. Here's some "Apple is winning" info
-Wait for the next market share report and copy and paste the same comment there.
 
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The Apple watch will never be as useful as an iPhone. It has physical limitations.

It's a very niche product and serves those who need it for a specific purpose.

For me, as a runner, there's very little out there that gives you GPS and music playback.
 
Apple watch may take off when it doesn't need a phone tethered. I'm still patiently waiting for a cellular modem to be included. Samsung has had this for years. Until then I have no interest in strapping additional weight onto my body. A watch with a cell modem lets me ELIMINATE WEIGHT from my body if I can ditch the phone.

Maybe Qualcomm stands in the way:)
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The Apple watch will never be as useful as an iPhone. It has physical limitations.

It's a very niche product and serves those who need it for a specific purpose.

For me, as a runner, there's very little out there that gives you GPS and music playback.

They'll have it by 2020.
 
Same thing will happen to the HomePod, people will say that there is no market for it, and Apple will once again prove them wrong, just like they did with the Apple Watch.
 
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I've never had any interest in having a wrist-based phone as well as a ... phone. A bit of a solution looking for a problem and a bit of Emperors New Clothes waffle and hype .... but those who own them certainly do seem to spout the Company Mantra thereafter. Of course, personally I would never stoop to such levels-having a mind of my own and show an ability to objectify without any preconceived .... hang on a minute... someone's left their Apple Watch on this desk. I think I'll just try it on for size to see what it looks like, that's all. Wait. Something's happening. My thinking processes. They're ... getting ... confused and .... swayed. You know. This Apple Watch. It's really quite funky isn't it? In a chunky kinda way, admittedly. But doesn't it look good? I've started taking my pulse already with it. And my respiration rate. 18 RPM? 5.6 mmol BM. Is that ok too? O2 Sats 99% ... wa Hey! Great! Thanks Apple Watch! You say I should eat now? Fine. I will. Drink something? Get in! I just heard a text alert. I'll just look on my phon.... nope. No need. I've got my Watch. I cannot believe how I manage to do without this thing before. It's just amazing ... oh. Hold on. The owner is coming back. "Yeah, sorry mate. I was just trying on your watch. It's quite phenomenal isn't it? Incredible technology. I'll take it off now thanks. Apple can't do anything wrong with this baby. Come on iPhone 8. Take my money." What's happening now, readers? Suddenly my vision is clearing again. What's that big block of metal on your arm there, mate? Looks, like a divers watch is it? Apple Watch? Nah. Not for me.

THAT is how mind controlling the Apple Watch can be even when just tried on(!). So be careful out there, folks!

I bought one for my girl friend 1st gen, because she is a watch wearer.
Since then Apple replaced it with a 2nd gen due to a swollen battery. (Thank you Apple)

The days she was without the watch bothered her a lot.

She uses it to set alarms, responds to messages (short of course), and watches the fitness circle.
Some phone activity. Not being technically interested, she probably uses only a small percentage of the functions.

Everybody has a different usage pattern, but for me wake me up when it doesn't need an iPhone linked.
I am still capable to pull things out of my pants when necessary. (I know, sounds.........................)
 
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After 2 years, 99% of consumers are still scratching their heads and trying to figure out what they are good for.

It isn't that they are useless, but they don't add anything practical to most people's lives or productivity. They are profligate kitsch-novelty.

Are you reading the same article as everyone else?

It's find if you don't get what an Apple Watch is for and you're welcome to your own opinion, but you don't seem to be in any position to speak for consumers in general.

Also, you don't look smart using big words inaccurately.
 
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Wall Street and pundits say AppleWatch is a failure and yet Apple sold 30 million units so far. Imagine how many Apple would have sold if it was a successful product. If I remember correctly, some analyst had said Apple would sell 30 million AppleWatches every year and when that didn't happen, it was thumbs down for AppleWatch. I'm willing to bet Apple has sold more expensive AppleWatches than Amazon has sold Echos (the full-sized ones) yet the Echo is considered a raging success and AppleWatch is considered a failure. Go figure that one. It's just that good ol' anti-Apple bias working on over time.
 
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This smart watch malarkey must be harder than it looks as Fitbit certainly seem to be struggling with it at the mo......
 
When my AW died I bought a replacement on eBay. Having my calendar and notifications on my wrist was something that made the day substantially easier. I had no idea how much I used it until it was gone.

I suspect that if I had one in school I would have done better, just because my calendar would be impossible to miss.
 
Correction: most people on here are not Apple fan. They only come here to stay up to date on Apple stuff and have a chance to complain about everything Apple related. Does that mean all Apple fans are happy? Of course not. We complain too but the majority here are just not Apple fan and come here to bash a Apple and its fans.
And how exactly did you arrive at this statistic? Sources, please. In any case, my observation is that a lot of the complaints on this forum originate from owners of Apple devices who have been disappointed with some of the Apple products the last several years. I myself am no "fan" of any particular company, but appreciate any company that produces high quality products for reasonable prices. I personally don't care about watches - never really liked wearing stuff on my wrist. If I'm on a bike ride or hike, I'll just put my phone in a fanny or back pack and check the phone periodically for the time and/or messages. That shouldn't be taken as a yay or nay on the Apple watch - it just isn't something I need or want. It never ceases to amaze me how emotionally invested people become in a company, whether it's Apple, Samsung, or whatever. Unless you are an employee or stock holder in said companies, that really makes no sense.
 
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