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Apple Watch Leather Bands May Be Discontinued for Series 9
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There are more chemicals…which are also more dangerous, in producing synthetic products than are used in leather tanning.
If Apple’s political position is to “save the animals”…as many others have stated, those same animals are going to the slaughter whether Apple uses leather or not.
And if Apple’s political position is “save the environment”…like many other “green” fallacies in the world, synthetic bands and cases are far worse for the environment.
If Apple’s political position is to “save the animals”…as many others have stated, those same animals are going to the slaughter whether Apple uses leather or not.
And if Apple’s political position is “save the environment”…like many other “green” fallacies in the world, synthetic bands and cases are far worse for the environment.
Billions of (potential iPhone owning) people all over the world avoid cow or pig leather for religious reasons. There’s no point winding up potential customers when you can just outsource any potential reputational risk to third party case manufacturers.
Not at all the same thing.
Since you are obviously a city-dweller who has no idea the real world works (cities being a totally artificial environment) I'll point out that killing an animal solely for its skin is vastly different than killing an animal to eat it, then finding uses of the rest of the carcass. There is an old saying about pigs, that you can use every part but the squeal. That is green ethics.
And yes I have killed a great many animals in my time, mostly by crushing whether by hand and with a flyswatter. I just had to take down two colonies of wasps with a vile poison. Those did not get eaten, it was a matter of self defense. What, you don't think wasps count as animals? Only mammals count? Phylumist!
Not sure what a leather watch band has to do with „Billions of (potential iPhone owning) people all over the world“ buying or not buying iPhones.
Btw: You don‘t have to buy a leather band or case, plenty of alternative options are already available.
Rumors are that Apple is ditching the leather case for iPhone as well.
BTW..you don't have to buy a leather strap or case from Apple, plenty of alternative options are already available.
Gurman is losing it.
Guys, Apple does this every year. Employees have access to a discount portal, I think it's called qpromo? All of the old season's excess accessories get thrown there for deep discounts, and Hermes bands aren't an exception. I got my Bambou Single Tour off a former employee who bought it for I believe $90 through this portal. I've heard of $49 Sport Bands being offered for single digits.
There's nothing new going on here.
Guys, Apple does this every year. Employees have access to a discount portal, I think it's called qpromo? All of the old season's excess accessories get thrown there for deep discounts, and Hermes bands aren't an exception. I got my Bambou Single Tour off a former employee who bought it for I believe $90 through this portal. I've heard of $49 Sport Bands being offered for single digits.
There's nothing new going on here.
What the actual ****? Fine, I guess I am buying my cases and watch straps from somewhere else now. I want real leather. Not plant based industrial science projects. Real leather. With a natural patina. Why is this so difficult for Apple to understand?
They suddenly just drop leather? Did they suddenly become vegan despite consuming the planet's resources like a fat hog gobbles all the corn in a pace that will only deplete the planet and contribute to mass waste.
They're still gonna have the FineWoven in boxes to be shipped. They're not saving anything. This is a calculated political move to disguise their real objective (reduction of cost in the pipeline). They will save billions by going to a science experiment plant based alternative, because leather requires extra steps to create as it is a naturally occurring, earthly product.
Fine, third party vendors now stand to make billions more in increased customer interest since Apple has decided to give their customers two choices: Leather from a third party, or no leather.
They suddenly just drop leather? Did they suddenly become vegan despite consuming the planet's resources like a fat hog gobbles all the corn in a pace that will only deplete the planet and contribute to mass waste.
They're still gonna have the FineWoven in boxes to be shipped. They're not saving anything. This is a calculated political move to disguise their real objective (reduction of cost in the pipeline). They will save billions by going to a science experiment plant based alternative, because leather requires extra steps to create as it is a naturally occurring, earthly product.
Fine, third party vendors now stand to make billions more in increased customer interest since Apple has decided to give their customers two choices: Leather from a third party, or no leather.
A 90% discount on Hermès bands is a steal. I wish I had access to those deals
I’m giving this a heart because there’s more truth here than very well likely to be in the PR angle evident around launch
I stopped buying apple leather products years ago, not because of any sort of belief or political view, but the leather cases for the iPhone were very sub par for the price in my opinion. The edges rubbed thru and revealed some sort of plastic or composite material in the middle, and it was just this very thin layer of leather on top seemingly. I'm not sure of the specifics but I just didn't think that the leather products they make were worth the money after that.
There will be companies offering cases and watch bands made of leather (cheap toxic ones from China, high priced ones from eg Hermes), so customers have a choice.
Let's face it, Apple is serious about reducing the environmental impact of its products, and this is one of the initiatives.
That's because you probably don't know how leather is made.
It is not just the animal's skin. A lot of quite toxic chemicals are used to turn animal skin into the leather we know. It's not a natural product, and depending on the production process, it's also rather bad for the environment.
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Apple Watch Hermès Edition with new Nylon Bands reimagined 👀 🫠
Credit: Parker Ortolani
Apple Watch Hermès Edition with new Nylon Bands reimagined 👀 🫠
Credit: Parker Ortolani
Do you think Apple is a radical vegan group preaching to you not to use leather?
Please explain why the skin of one animal is OK to use as clothing/accessory and that of another animal is not?
Hermès has no business in extreme sports, that's not gonna happen. And it also misses the point completely (in terms of what the Apple Watch Ultra is about and what Hermès is all about).
Actually, leather is not "naturally occurring", but it is produced from a natural resource (animal skin), mostly using quite toxic chemicals to stop the "earthly product" from decay.
The animals are already being eaten. Might as well use the hide as to not waste. However, if this cuts down waste, then so be it.
It’s literally a professional telling you what happens, and you’re arguing with them. 🤦♂️
I have lived on ranches. Bovine are primarily used for meat and milk production. The hide is just extra. If demand for hide dropped to near zero, not a single cow will have been saved, just more waste created.