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See, here is were Apple could potentially lose me. I could care less about fashion. I don't want a gold iPhone, gold watch, etc. I want a powerful 15" rMacBook Pro, I'd like a more powerful Mac mini, and a real Apple TV, and a bunch of other things. But fashion is NOT on my list. So it's great if Apple can make some extra money selling jewelry and such, but they won't be getting this customer to wear a watch anytime soon. I wouldn't buy one for $199.

Your type went out of the majority demographics when the Apple ][ was discontinued.
 
That 4 grand is up there!



Everybody who thinks $4000'is a lot of money for a watch has not ( or owns) a quality high end watch! I don't know if this is high quality until it comes out but the average watch made by quality Jewelers are around that price to start and can easly go to 30-50 thousand and that's not their top end watches either! Breitling, Rolex,A Lange and Sohne, Alain Silberstein, Audemars Piguet, Blancpain, Breguet, Franck Muller, JLC, Parmigiani, Patek Phillipe, Ulysse Nardin, Vacheron Constantin starting at $5,000 for Steel models
starting at $10,000 for Gold on a leather strap
starting at $20,000 for Gold on a Gold bracelet
with the sky as the limit. Some watches can exceed $2,000,000.
Soooooo, Apples top of their line?.... CHEAP!!!!!!:cool:
 
Open Letter of Eric Migicovsky -- Founder of Pebble,

Do not look at the Apple Watch as the end of your run. View it as a validation of your concept. Apple is going the high road with a unit taking all of the high fashion and trendy crowd. Do not make the mistake of being Timex against Japanese competition in the 70's. You need to be the low price leader.

Get rid of that color OLED Pebble watch a few saw on California Avenue in Palo Alto during the summer. Get the best hardware optimization engineer you can find (I have a few references) and get the MSRP $95 Pebble smart watch out there. If you are smart, you are in progress of this already. If not, kill everything else, do a 50% layoff and get this low-ball smart watch out there.

Once that is out and the big money is in, time to get exotic and trendy. Let Apple be their high and mighty, Vogue / Esquire / Seventeen darling. Casio cleaned up with one ASIC that made over a hundred models. Want to get fancy? Have an RGB LED drive the back-light and have a C-language SDK call control that color. IMO, this will outsell the Apple Watch tenfold.

Do NOT compete against Apple head-to-head.

To continue this conversation. Red Rock Cafe, on the Castro in Mt. View., November 12th at noon. See you then. Wear the jersey of your favorite British Premier league, shower and shave that morning.

You are doing well. Glad you ego isn't that large from all this success and the 800 lbs. gorilla jumping in.

Outselling Apple, everyone outsells, Apple straight to the poorhouse... The plan of a business is making money, not outselling the competition. If you can outsell them and make a lot of money, bravo to you... That probably means your in a monopoly position though :).
 
Well that's one way to build Apple's legendary cash stockpile. Take the Apple branding and extend it to a market where people are used to spending a lot of money for quality.

As someone who is perfectly fine with a Fossil watch over any of the overpriced fancy watches that look virtually the same to me, count me out of the :apple:Watch game.
 
Those same idiots probably make 250K+ a year, so they can do whatever they want with their money, just like you.

It's good to be the king. :)

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Well that's one way to build Apple's legendary cash stockpile. Take the Apple branding and extend it to a market where people are used to spending a lot of money for quality.

As someone who is perfectly fine with a Fossil watch over any of the overpriced fancy watches that look virtually the same to me, count me out of the :apple:Watch game.

Hell, Pebble is where it's at for low end smart-watches. Easy to code in C.
 
I'm sure the battery can be swapped out in one of these watches somehow....

I thought the whole internals are covered in resin.

for 4000k, you better be able to replace the internals.... but with more sensors on the way.... I don't know... This rumor just doesn't make any sense!
 
Bs

If Apple charges $5k for a dumb digital watch it will be the end of Apple.
 
Everybody who thinks $4000'is a lot of money for a watch has not ( or owns) a quality high end watch! I don't know if this is high quality until it comes out but the average watch made by quality Jewelers are around that price to start and can easly go to 30-50 thousand and that's not their top end watches either! Breitling, Rolex,A Lange and Sohne, Alain Silberstein, Audemars Piguet, Blancpain, Breguet, Franck Muller, JLC, Parmigiani, Patek Phillipe, Ulysse Nardin, Vacheron Constantin starting at $5,000 for Steel models
starting at $10,000 for Gold on a leather strap
starting at $20,000 for Gold on a Gold bracelet
with the sky as the limit. Some watches can exceed $2,000,000.
Soooooo, Apples top of their line?.... CHEAP!!!!!!:cool:

You are right. I have worn watches on my wrist in San Francisco clubs that are worth more than houses in the mid-west. Swiss watch makers love their Scotch!

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If Apple charges $5k for a dumb digital watch it will be the end of Apple.

And when they profit from it, more like the end of your cellar-dweller lifestyle.
 
I think that the primary purpose of the gold model, is not to sell in quantity, but to keep the Apple Watch in the news.

Actors, singers, Kardashians, and other high-publicity types will no doubt get the gold version and be constantly photographed with it in view.

I think the gold model will be huge in Asia gold is way more trendy and more of a status symbol over there
 
Who would pay $5,000 for a watch that will be obsolete in 1 year when they launch Apple Watch 2? You can buy a real Swiss watch that will keep its value for life.

Easy, someone for whom money has no real meaning.

There are people out there that will spend thousands of dollars to sit at a table in a club and be served a couple of hundreds of dollars of alcohol.

I don't think Apple imagine their gold watches will sell like their gold iPads and iPhones, but they do know there are a segment of rich people with no taste who will buy these gaudy monstrosities just to have the first and the most expensive option.
 
The only reason why I would buy the $4000 watch is that 20 years later it will be a vintage worth 10 times the value.
 
Apple alwasy screw over early adopters.

1) First iPhone had a price drop just weeks after it first went on sale.
2) the first iPad barely survived one iOS software revision becoming obsolete in just over a year.

Ill wait for the V 2.0

Sadly the iPad 1 didn't even get iOS 6. That's totally unacceptable. My iPad 1 has become a very expensive paperweight now.
 
I seriously don't understand the purpose of the Apple Watch...and I've owned 6 Macs, 4 Apple TVs, 7 iPhones, 5 iPods and 5 iPads.

The problem is Apple is pushing in a direction that is extremely like Apple, except the concept of a 'smartwatch' is a little too forced in the first place. It's like, the tablet concept is an inevitable evolution of portable computers, and we all rely on cellphones these days, but there doesn't seem to be any real absolute "I need one" reason for a smartwatch to exist.
 
Is nobody else not seeing what I'm seeing? The sapphire bottom of the :apple:WATCH looks made to come off to easily replace the battery, possibly upgrade the CPU and add new sensors.

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Apple must know that the renewal cycle of these watches can't be the same as an iPhone or even a Mac. If you're buying a gold watch, it's got to be good for at least 5 years or maybe much longer. If you can upgrade the fitness sensors and maybe the CPU, Apple can continue to make money annually or bi-annually from :apple:WATCH owners.
 
The iWatch looks great.:)

Unfortunately for $500 I will have to say pass.

For a version 1.0 product that will be obsolete in less than a year I will wait for version 2.0.

The battery life will be better.

I most likely will buy a Fitbit or Microsoft watch for now.
 
I think this is the first time Apple has delved into fashion obscurity. This gold watch is only popular to people with enough money to throw it away after 5 years when Apple stops supporting it. I have a 100 year old pocket watch that is beautiful and keeps time and is worth way more than an Apple watch--because it's still relevant. Jony Ive's research into the merger of technology and hundreds of years of timekeeping is fail--well unless you're only interested in money, which Apple says they are not.

The watch is a necessity that has survived for hundreds of years. Did your first iMac survive?

I think the iWatch is a revelation to people that don't know the value of a watch. One that is passed down from generations. How many people continue to use the first iPhone?
 
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