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Not true. As another posted mentioned, in trademarks, if you don't protect the right, it might become genericized, but not patents. Unlike a trademark, which does not have a fixed time period, a patent is 20 years. You do not lose your rights just because you do not police your patent in those 20 years. Does it make it harder to license it to an exclusive licensee if you are not policing infringements? Absolutely. But you do not lose your rights if you chose to my police.

Disclaimer - I am an IP attorney. This is not legal advice, only legal information.
Fair enough. I'll concede on that. My area of expertise (if a 2L can have "expertise") is more in the tax and estate planning field, with about 4 years of experience in real property.
 
The entire foundation of the Patent Act is to promote science, and well-being of the community. Thus, if one gets a patent, they are expected to help further progress of the arts. In exchange for the new idea/invention, the patent holder gets a 20 year monopoly over the technology - allowing them to exclusively license the technology to recoup the costs of the discovery.
 
It will work. Apple Watches with the sensor disabled have a hardware/firmware revision and a different part number (ending in LW/A).

The oxygen sensor on watches purchased in another country (and old watches) will work in the USA, as long as its part number doesn't end in LW/A.




Good to know. I wonder if international versions of Series 10 or 11 will have it enabled.
 
Fair enough. I'll concede on that. My area of expertise (if a 2L can have "expertise") is more in the tax and estate planning field, with about 4 years of experience in real property.
Kudos to you. While I enjoyed Wills and Trusts (primarily because of the professor) I never had the patience for tax/property. Good luck to you!
 
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I’m so confused. So these guys say you infringed on our patents and because of that made an unreliable sensor? Sounds like some stupid logic to me.
Exactly, just like Zuck says his Quest 3 is vastly superior to the AVP. CEO pissing contest here.
 
Do affected Apple Watches sold by 3rd party retailers still have the feature enabled? What about customers that bought early?
 
So, that's one year before the series 9 gets no more software updates? I'm sure, Apple will do this, they are renowned for caring about older hardware 🤣

Otoh, it's a pretty gimmicky fesature, like EEG - it won't be missed.
my dad had heart surgery for a potentially life threatening condition discovered with the Apple Watches EEG. It’s not a gimmick.
 
Haven’t heard much of anything lately regarding jailbreaking. Can it even be done on current iPhones and iOS 17? As for older iPhones running older versions of iOS... Why even try? Seems like something only nerds would do just to say they got the feature working. Doesn’t make sense at all.
 
Masimo is trying to bring their own wearable to market. They claimed it would launch in 2023. It'd be hilarious if the patent expires before they're able to produce it.

Side note: I recently went to a local walk in clinic to get something to fight a cough and the device they used to take my pulse ox was identical to the O2 value on my Ultra. Seems pretty accurate.
 
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I had no idea a company could hire dozens of engineers from a competing company, develop the exact same thing and somehow the company being stolen from is a “patent troll”. Yes.

Cracks me up when people talk about companies "stealing" employees as if they were kidnapped and now work in duress against their will. There's a company not far from here poaching engineers from another, smaller company. I know for a fact they're paying some of these folks over 300k/yr (or more) which is doubling or nearly doubling their salaries. Does it suck if you're the smaller company? Undoubtedly. Will bitching about it stop it from happening? Not for a moment.
 
patent trolls are the worst
Well in this case it was an individual from the company that owned the patent that caused this issue by improperly sharing proprietary ideas with Apple. Improper because he developed those ideas while on the clock with Masimo, who paid him in full for his contributions in exchange for ownership of those contributions. Maybe that individual felt their contributions were being undervalued by Masimo?
 
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Masimo’s licensing fee must be exorbitant because it really seems like it would be in Apple’s interest to settle at this point.
Exactly

Why would they just let this fester and otherwise just keep the blood oxygen sensor on these 2 models inactive until 2028
Yes, it is Masimo's fault this matter isn't settled yet. It's not Apple's fault at all.

If Masimo really wants this settled, Masimo needs to try harder to get Apple to return their phone calls. :rolleyes:


Masimo CEO Joe Kiani told CNBC on Monday that Apple had not reached out to settle.

“I don’t care that much about the Apple leadership, given about what I know about how they run the company,” Kiani said. “I still extended the olive branch and offered to work with them for the betterment of people and our shareholders, and not even a call.”
 
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